That...is exactly my point: it is NOT a professional journal. The people saying it is are ridiculous. Please do an online reading comprehension course?

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Scabbyrat-Nanny wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol.

Two posters in this thread have called it a professional journal. I'm not going to waste my time finding the post times but if you read the thread through you'll see both claims.

And why does not thinking highly of this "magazine" make me bitter? Nice try.

Random posters called it a professional journal...so therefore it is....? Okay....I'm Jesus Christ...I guess that's true too seeing as I'm a "poster". Do you need more examples pointing out your flawed response?

I'm sorry, you are making no sense at all. Maybe you're confusing me with another anonymous poster?

All *I* have said in this thread is that I won't be subscribing because that is crazy expensive for an unproven magazine which may or may not be worth the money. Then when other anonymous posters described it as a "professional journal" I suggested that they are intimately connected with the project and behind the "free advertising" of this thread... Because no one who isn't connected with the project would describe a magazine they've never seen, put together by "nannies" (we hear often enough how there are no training courses or qualifications for this so how do I know that I'm not actually more informed than the editors?), as a professional journal.

That's it. That's all I have said. Do you see now how crazy your ongoing dialogue with me sounds??

My feeling is that it is not a professional journal, so why would they say it is? I'm not sure you're familiar with what defines a professional journal if you would say this is a professional journal. Professional journals are like JAMA and Cell. This is just a magazine that is supposed to be for a group of workers.

TROLL.
Free marketing.
You post it here and get everyone talking about an overpriced piece of rag...

Scabbyrat-Nanny wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol.

Two posters in this thread have called it a professional journal. I'm not going to waste my time finding the post times but if you read the thread through you'll see both claims.

And why does not thinking highly of this "magazine" make me bitter? Nice try.

Random posters called it a professional journal...so therefore it is....? Okay....I'm Jesus Christ...I guess that's true too seeing as I'm a "poster". Do you need more examples pointing out your flawed response?

I'm sorry, you are making no sense at all. Maybe you're confusing me with another anonymous poster?

All *I* have said in this thread is that I won't be subscribing because that is crazy expensive for an unproven magazine which may or may not be worth the money. Then when other anonymous posters described it as a "professional journal" I suggested that they are intimately connected with the project and behind the "free advertising" of this thread... Because no one who isn't connected with the project would describe a magazine they've never seen, put together by "nannies" (we hear often enough how there are no training courses or qualifications for this so how do I know that I'm not actually more informed than the editors?), as a professional journal.

That's it. That's all I have said. Do you see now how crazy your ongoing dialogue with me sounds??

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ShaqNanny wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to subscribe to the magazine for a few reasons. The people involved in the magazine are immature and it was obvious at nannypalooza that they have no idea what they are doing. $39 for 6 magazines is outrageous and why even consider buying the online edition when they keep posting their articles on their Facebook page for free. No thanks. I'm sure whoever started this thread is somehow involved in the magazine.

I agree 100%! I always thought the girls involved in this magazine were a little naive and immature, but it was very apparent at Nannypalooza. I wanted to support them, but after that debacle will not be giving them any of my money.

I was at Nannypalooza and while I thought the intern and associate editors could have acted better, it's hilarious to call this debacle the fault of the executive editors. If your charges misbehaves, does that mean you are a terrible nanny? No. Then maybe you should take what happened with a grain of salt. What I find most humorous about the Nannypalooza incident was that it was one of their members that were accosted and assaulted but they're at fault. I am all about taking personal responsibility for their actions but the logic being used here is hilarious.

I'll ask again. If the editors don't condone the behavior, then why are these people still on staff? I've interned and volunteered both domestically and internationally quite extensively. In every single position if I ever had an incident like this, I would have been asked to leave, especially as an intern. If they want people to take them seriously and treat them like a professional, they need to act professional at all times, especially at a conference surrounded by the people who they are targeting to subscribe.

So if you were an intern and were assaulted, then you should have been fired? Well I guess you're lucky no one assaulted you then. This post has become more about the girls than it has about the actual magazine. I subscribed because we have a real publication for us. Did I enjoy paying for it? No. There used to be a few free print publications but they've all stopped. Why? Because they couldn't keep up with the printing costs and the drag of doing all the design, managing all the photos etc. 39 dollars isn't cheap, but I am willing to bet that NM is not making a profit on it all given that they are a start up. Printing on Demand is expensive, just go to your local Fed Ex or print shop if you don't believe me.

Not subscribing to a publications because you have problems with an intern is small minded at best and ignorant at worst. You should choose to subscribe based on the merits of the magazine. If there is something you don't like about it, then reach out to them. They've been receptive to the suggestions by various veterans of the Nanny community, it's why they have them writing for them. It peeves me that we as nannies argue that we're un-represented and marginalized in society, but when one of our own tries to create a real product for us, we decide to tear them down.

ShaqNanny wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to subscribe to the magazine for a few reasons. The people involved in the magazine are immature and it was obvious at nannypalooza that they have no idea what they are doing. $39 for 6 magazines is outrageous and why even consider buying the online edition when they keep posting their articles on their Facebook page for free. No thanks. I'm sure whoever started this thread is somehow involved in the magazine.

I agree 100%! I always thought the girls involved in this magazine were a little naive and immature, but it was very apparent at Nannypalooza. I wanted to support them, but after that debacle will not be giving them any of my money.

I was at Nannypalooza and while I thought the intern and associate editors could have acted better, it's hilarious to call this debacle the fault of the executive editors. If your charges misbehaves, does that mean you are a terrible nanny? No. Then maybe you should take what happened with a grain of salt. What I find most humorous about the Nannypalooza incident was that it was one of their members that were accosted and assaulted but they're at fault. I am all about taking personal responsibility for their actions but the logic being used here is hilarious.

100% agree. I'm new to the area and DCUM. I've been following Nanny Magazine on their Facebook page and became addicted. I really like it. So it is upsetting to wonder on here and read this stuff....I mean, aren't we all supposed to be loving and caring nannies for our little ones?? This is a magazine for nannies, not some political FOX News garbage. Lighten up people.

Anonymous wrote:Wait wait wait....there was assault? Someone needs to dish. What happened at nannypalooza?

Apparently Nanny Magazine representatives that were there (not the editors/owners) were harassed and assaulted by some crazy nanny...which in turn, Nanny Magazine got the bad rap for it. Doesn't make sense to me..I was going to go to Nannypalooza with a friend, but I had to stay behind. I mention that because I remember talking to my friend who was there later that night. She was telling me about it and then a few days later, I started hearing different versions...crazy versions. As most rumors get spread, they tend to become exaggerated and deviate further from what really happened.

But the argument on this forum right now is more about attacking the two girls who started the magazine...who again, were not even there. However, some people think they should be held responsible. This illogical thinking is small-minded. Back where I grew up (small town in Mississippi), most small-minded people think that all muslims are terrorist because of the actions of a terrorist group...so I guess the answer is that an entire ethnic group should be held responsible for the acts of the few. This example is a radical difference between the two...but it's the same small minded thinking...I'm glad I'm in DC (just moved here 4 months ago); I love the diversity...but I guess there's no escaping the ignorance of that small-minded town.

Anonymous wrote:lol.

Two posters in this thread have called it a professional journal. I'm not going to waste my time finding the post times but if you read the thread through you'll see both claims.

And why does not thinking highly of this "magazine" make me bitter? Nice try.

Random posters called it a professional journal...so therefore it is....? Okay....I'm Jesus Christ...I guess that's true too seeing as I'm a "poster". Do you need more examples pointing out your flawed response?

Wait wait wait....there was assault? Someone needs to dish. What happened at nannypalooza?

ShaqNanny wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to subscribe to the magazine for a few reasons. The people involved in the magazine are immature and it was obvious at nannypalooza that they have no idea what they are doing. $39 for 6 magazines is outrageous and why even consider buying the online edition when they keep posting their articles on their Facebook page for free. No thanks. I'm sure whoever started this thread is somehow involved in the magazine.

I agree 100%! I always thought the girls involved in this magazine were a little naive and immature, but it was very apparent at Nannypalooza. I wanted to support them, but after that debacle will not be giving them any of my money.

I was at Nannypalooza and while I thought the intern and associate editors could have acted better, it's hilarious to call this debacle the fault of the executive editors. If your charges misbehaves, does that mean you are a terrible nanny? No. Then maybe you should take what happened with a grain of salt. What I find most humorous about the Nannypalooza incident was that it was one of their members that were accosted and assaulted but they're at fault. I am all about taking personal responsibility for their actions but the logic being used here is hilarious.

I'll ask again. If the editors don't condone the behavior, then why are these people still on staff? I've interned and volunteered both domestically and internationally quite extensively. In every single position if I ever had an incident like this, I would have been asked to leave, especially as an intern. If they want people to take them seriously and treat them like a professional, they need to act professional at all times, especially at a conference surrounded by the people who they are targeting to subscribe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to subscribe to the magazine for a few reasons. The people involved in the magazine are immature and it was obvious at nannypalooza that they have no idea what they are doing. $39 for 6 magazines is outrageous and why even consider buying the online edition when they keep posting their articles on their Facebook page for free. No thanks. I'm sure whoever started this thread is somehow involved in the magazine.

I agree 100%! I always thought the girls involved in this magazine were a little naive and immature, but it was very apparent at Nannypalooza. I wanted to support them, but after that debacle will not be giving them any of my money.

I was at Nannypalooza and while I thought the intern and associate editors could have acted better, it's hilarious to call this debacle the fault of the executive editors. If your charges misbehaves, does that mean you are a terrible nanny? No. Then maybe you should take what happened with a grain of salt. What I find most humorous about the Nannypalooza incident was that it was one of their members that were accosted and assaulted but they're at fault. I am all about taking personal responsibility for their actions but the logic being used here is hilarious.

lol.

Two posters in this thread have called it a professional journal. I'm not going to waste my time finding the post times but if you read the thread through you'll see both claims.

And why does not thinking highly of this "magazine" make me bitter? Nice try.

Anonymous wrote:11:41 -- TL;DR

Didn't you say you had writing experience...?

And +1 to PP, why exactly should we care who you knew in college? It's clear the editors are behind this post and you are all trying to sell it as a "professional journal." Please.

They are not saying it's a 'professional journal'. Where on their website or Facebook page does it say that?? Can you provide some evidence of that? I'd love to see it. They are saying it's a professional resource, which it is. It's a resource for individuals working in a certain profession. Can you argue that? To quote you, "Please."

I saw their mini magazine with a demo of what's on the table of contents for January and it didn't look bad especially considering they're a startup. They posted it on their Facebook awhile back. In fact I know some of the big-name nannies and industry veterans who are writing for the issue so for that reason alone I will root for them to do well. I am active on their Facebook discussions and have made some new friends through their page so I can personally attest to the fact that they are fostering a community where it's so hard.

I will be rooting for them. I don't know about you, Ms. "Please", but I hope you have a happy Christmas with such a seemingly bitter soul as yours and I hope you're not a nanny because I wouldn't trust you to foster a positive environment around children.

I subscribed and got my first issue last night at their launch party in Chicago.

The founders actually met here on DCUM.

I really enjoyed the first issue and am happy to support a publication that is trying to shine a professional light on the nanny industry.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:11:41 -- TL;DR

Didn't you say you had writing experience...?

And +1 to PP, why exactly should we care who you knew in college? It's clear the editors are behind this post and you are all trying to sell it as a "professional journal." Please.

I am both a writer and a former teacher. Doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not. But I am NOT one of the editors, nor am I any sort of staff. I'm through with this thread now, though. Enjoy your cattiness and personal bias. I'm sure that sort of negativity in no way means that you are a bitter, jealous, pathetic person who needed more hugs in her childhood.

I think I know who the catty bitter person is and if its who I think it is she should t be allowed to work with children. Personally I would fear for their physical safety if she were around.