Anonymous
Post 06/10/2013 08:28     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?

She doesn't need experience to have an opinion. Your opinion, however well-informed it may be, comes from a place of self-interest, as it is undoubtedly to the nanny's advantage to bring her child with her. Even if you had a hundred years of experience, your opinion could not be considered impartial.

An opinion based on little more than a random whim, is not exactly an opinion that has much value. When I engage in debate, I am most interested in varied opinions based on actual first hand experience. Second hand information certainly has its place, but is of less interest to me. For example, my preferred source of news is C-SPAN. While I enjoy a wide range of news sources, I also consider what's filtered by whom.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2013 01:25     Subject: Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Every family and nanny are entitled to their own opinions and preferences, and should function accordingly.




This is what I already said for you who has English comprehension issues.


Lol! Nice try, PP. I don't "HAS" English comprehension issues, but me-thinks you may need to take a grammar course or two...
(Not PP you were responding to, btw)
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 17:55     Subject: Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:

Every family and nanny are entitled to their own opinions and preferences, and should function accordingly.




This is what I already said for you who has English comprehension issues.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 14:40     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Your mentality seems to be overly limited. My thinking, on the other hand, strives for win-win-win for all concerned. If it's done right, that's how it should be. Because I've already had positive experiences, I know it can work beautifully.
You, however, haven't had a single positive experience with it, so all you know is that it can't possibly be a benefit to all concerned.


You don't seem to understand that you are speaking to several people, not one, who disagree with you. It's lovely that it has worked for you. Stop assuming, though, that it's a win-win-win for all concerned. Many people have brought up why it would not be a win for them. They don't need to have experience riding a bicycle in traffic to know that it's a bad idea for them. Stop badgering people to agree with you that this is a good idea.

It isn't for anyone on this thread but you.


+1.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 14:00     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Your mentality seems to be overly limited. My thinking, on the other hand, strives for win-win-win for all concerned. If it's done right, that's how it should be. Because I've already had positive experiences, I know it can work beautifully.
You, however, haven't had a single positive experience with it, so all you know is that it can't possibly be a benefit to all concerned.


You don't seem to understand that you are speaking to several people, not one, who disagree with you. It's lovely that it has worked for you. Stop assuming, though, that it's a win-win-win for all concerned. Many people have brought up why it would not be a win for them. They don't need to have experience riding a bicycle in traffic to know that it's a bad idea for them. Stop badgering people to agree with you that this is a good idea.

It isn't for anyone on this thread but you.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 09:59     Subject: Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along



Every family and nanny are entitled to their own opinions and preferences, and should function accordingly.



Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 02:46     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:Again, please explain what, besides self-interest, would motivate the nanny to seek a job which allows her to bring her child.


Yes, please tell us. As a nanny I can see where some of the "pros" to bringing your child with you can actually be good if needed, but none of them are necessary either. It is not something that the family and their child would miss out on if the nanny WASN'T bringing their own child to work. There is always another way to get the benefit (social interactions, learning to share etc can all be done with other situations). The biggest pro to a family would be a lower cost, as that is not something that would happen without that situation (or another share). The biggest pro to the nanny is having her child with her, and I have to say that pretty much trumps the pro to the family. They could do an actual share with another family and get a lower rate, still share the nanny with another child, still get all the "benefits" of having the 2 kids with the nanny instead of the one only.

So please tell us what else motivates the nanny to bring her child to work other than her own self-interest of having her child with her. You might say it can be a win-win-win. but if looking at it with how much of a benefit it is for all those involved, I see a percentage of 100% being split more like this: 50% to you, and 25% each for both the family and kids. You (the nanny) gain the most from this type of situation.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 23:52     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?

She doesn't need experience to have an opinion. Your opinion, however well-informed it may be, comes from a place of self-interest, as it is undoubtedly to the nanny's advantage to bring her child with her. Even if you had a hundred years of experience, your opinion could not be considered impartial.

Self-interest? You may speak for yourself, but not for me. Thank you.

Please explain how nanny bringing her child along is NOT in her interest.

Your mentality seems to be overly limited. My thinking, on the other hand, strives for win-win-win for all concerned. If it's done right, that's how it should be. Because I've already had positive experiences, I know it can work beautifully.
You, however, haven't had a single positive experience with it, so all you know is that it can't possibly be a benefit to all concerned.


Your opinions on my person and my mentality aren't important. I'm not interested in yours. Let's stick to the issue and keep the personal stuff out.

Again, please explain what, besides self-interest, would motivate the nanny to seek a job which allows her to bring her child.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 22:42     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?

She doesn't need experience to have an opinion. Your opinion, however well-informed it may be, comes from a place of self-interest, as it is undoubtedly to the nanny's advantage to bring her child with her. Even if you had a hundred years of experience, your opinion could not be considered impartial.

Self-interest? You may speak for yourself, but not for me. Thank you.

Please explain how nanny bringing her child along is NOT in her interest.

Your mentality seems to be overly limited. My thinking, on the other hand, strives for win-win-win for all concerned. If it's done right, that's how it should be. Because I've already had positive experiences, I know it can work beautifully.
You, however, haven't had a single positive experience with it, so all you know is that it can't possibly be a benefit to all concerned.

Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 21:45     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?

She doesn't need experience to have an opinion. Your opinion, however well-informed it may be, comes from a place of self-interest, as it is undoubtedly to the nanny's advantage to bring her child with her. Even if you had a hundred years of experience, your opinion could not be considered impartial.

Self-interest? You may speak for yourself, but not for me. Thank you.

Please explain how nanny bringing her child along is NOT in her interest.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 18:44     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?

She doesn't need experience to have an opinion. Your opinion, however well-informed it may be, comes from a place of self-interest, as it is undoubtedly to the nanny's advantage to bring her child with her. Even if you had a hundred years of experience, your opinion could not be considered impartial.

Self-interest? You may speak for yourself, but not for me. Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 18:17     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?

She doesn't need experience to have an opinion. Your opinion, however well-informed it may be, comes from a place of self-interest, as it is undoubtedly to the nanny's advantage to bring her child with her. Even if you had a hundred years of experience, your opinion could not be considered impartial.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 16:45     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
PP again. Forgot to mention that I agree that a nanny who brings her child is not necessarily any less professional than one who doesn't, provided that this doesn't interfere with her ability to treat the job like a job and provided further that she is reasonable enough to recognize that being permitted to bring her child is a perk for her, not a benefit for you.


You are relentless, 18:02, with your utter nonsense. Just because you couldn't make it work out for you, doesn't mean that it doesn't work out very well for many other families, especially those with only one child.

It's called a mutual benefit, otherwise known as win-win-win, for MB, Nanny, and most of all the children, who both get the best possible care.

There are just as many families for whom it doesn't work out. You have no way to tell which is more common.

Unlike yourself, I continue to speak for myself and my own personal experiences and those with other families. You are the one with the "always" and "never" nonsense?

Why get angry when someone disagrees with you? Argue with opinions, don't get personal. This is an anonymous board. You have no idea who posts and who you are arguing with. You may think it's the same person but may as well be a dozen different ones.

What makes you think I get angry when someone disagrees with me?


Probably your constant characterizing of anyone who disagrees with you as someone who is spouting "nonsense".

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.

You may have your personal opinion as I have mine. As it's been explained to you, my opinions are based on many years of extensive experience. Is your opinion even based on any actual experience, however limited it might be?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 16:22     Subject: Re:Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
PP again. Forgot to mention that I agree that a nanny who brings her child is not necessarily any less professional than one who doesn't, provided that this doesn't interfere with her ability to treat the job like a job and provided further that she is reasonable enough to recognize that being permitted to bring her child is a perk for her, not a benefit for you.


You are relentless, 18:02, with your utter nonsense. Just because you couldn't make it work out for you, doesn't mean that it doesn't work out very well for many other families, especially those with only one child.

It's called a mutual benefit, otherwise known as win-win-win, for MB, Nanny, and most of all the children, who both get the best possible care.

There are just as many families for whom it doesn't work out. You have no way to tell which is more common.

Unlike yourself, I continue to speak for myself and my own personal experiences and those with other families. You are the one with the "always" and "never" nonsense?

Why get angry when someone disagrees with you? Argue with opinions, don't get personal. This is an anonymous board. You have no idea who posts and who you are arguing with. You may think it's the same person but may as well be a dozen different ones.

What makes you think I get angry when someone disagrees with me?


Probably your constant characterizing of anyone who disagrees with you as someone who is spouting "nonsense".

Your experience is unusual, as many posters have pointed out. It isn't advantageous for a family to agree to have a nanny bring her own child except for financial advantages. Any other advantages are your opinion. Your one and only opinion. Which isn't really important here.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 16:09     Subject: Potential Nanny will bring their toddler along

It really depends on what the parent is comfortable with.