Anonymous
06/02/2013 18:28
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not a PP,
How do you know there are three lawyers in the thread? I did not see any disclosure of such.
14:26 is clearly a lawyer. I am another one, and I agree with her post. 19:13 and 6:20 (our resident comma lady) is clearly not qualified to opine on the matter.
Oh great! Link us to some court cases where nannies have been forced, by a judge or jury, to uphold their end of an "enforceable contract". TIA
Here is one example.
You must be new. Whenever a person poses a question, it is meant for anyone who wishes to respond. It's crystal clear that no one was asked to go and do some research on the condition they get paid $10,000. Lots of people post various links, and no one has ever said they'd like to get paid first. Stop trying to make something of nothing.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 18:14
Subject: Contract for Nanny
*PP not OP
Anonymous
06/02/2013 18:14
Subject: Contract for Nanny
I disagree that asking someone to support their argument with a source is some desperate ploy to get free legal advice. You're being a bit paranoid OP.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 17:51
Subject: Re:Contract for Nanny
It seems that any case that was the first of its kind, would make the news. So far no one on this forum has ever heard of a nanny being held financially liable for not upholding a nanny agreement.
And here. Another bait from the desperate nanny.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 17:15
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not a PP,
How do you know there are three lawyers in the thread? I did not see any disclosure of such.
14:26 is clearly a lawyer. I am another one, and I agree with her post. 19:13 and 6:20 (our resident comma lady) is clearly not qualified to opine on the matter.
Oh great! Link us to some court cases where nannies have been forced, by a judge or jury, to uphold their end of an "enforceable contract". TIA
?
Out of the "three" brilliant legal minds on this thread, not one of you has ever heard of such a court case, that you can recall?
Oh my....
Here is a follow-up example of some annoying nannies attempting to bait the lawyers to do this research (for free) and respond.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 17:14
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not a PP,
How do you know there are three lawyers in the thread? I did not see any disclosure of such.
14:26 is clearly a lawyer. I am another one, and I agree with her post. 19:13 and 6:20 (our resident comma lady) is clearly not qualified to opine on the matter.
Oh great! Link us to some court cases where nannies have been forced, by a judge or jury, to uphold their end of an "enforceable contract". TIA
Here is one example.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 16:29
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just think it's so funny that so many nannies complain about not getting paid extra to wash a dish or fold a shirt but then they go and tell someone else to work for free... Nice guys. I'm a nanny and personally it doesn't matter if a contract/agreement is legally binding or not. If I accept the job and agree with all of the terms then I hold my end of it. Simple as that.
Where was anyone told to go work for free?
here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We would be glad to answer you, PP, if you would like to pay our fees to provide you with this advice. I do not know about the other lawyers on this thread, but at my billable rate and leverage factor, you would be looking at a bill of about $10,000 for me to have some fo the attorneys I supervise prepare a memo for you on the point, assuming of course that you are willing to take such a memo based on one of the three jurisdictions in which I am licensed to practice (although I would prefer to write on New York law since I have been barred there the longest and it has one of the most well developed bodies of countract law in the U.S.). Do you nanny for free? No? Then don't ask usto give you legal advice for free.
In typical shyster fashion, encourage the unsuspecting public to line your pockets as you pretend to do useful work.
In answer to your question, some professional nannies do offer pro bono services on occasion, just as some attorneys do.
Again, if there have ever been any nannies held liable for breach of contract, to pay damages for not completing the term of her agreement, surely someone on this forum would have heard of it. How ridiculous of you to request a tidy little sum of $10,000. to confirm common knowledge. You are an utter e
mbarrassment to your profession, and a prime example of why so few of you can be trusted.
Sorry, but I don't see where anyone asked her to do anything for free. Do you? Please bold the text where you think it is.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 14:15
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just think it's so funny that so many nannies complain about not getting paid extra to wash a dish or fold a shirt but then they go and tell someone else to work for free... Nice guys. I'm a nanny and personally it doesn't matter if a contract/agreement is legally binding or not. If I accept the job and agree with all of the terms then I hold my end of it. Simple as that.
Where was anyone told to go work for free?
here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We would be glad to answer you, PP, if you would like to pay our fees to provide you with this advice. I do not know about the other lawyers on this thread, but at my billable rate and leverage factor, you would be looking at a bill of about $10,000 for me to have some fo the attorneys I supervise prepare a memo for you on the point, assuming of course that you are willing to take such a memo based on one of the three jurisdictions in which I am licensed to practice (although I would prefer to write on New York law since I have been barred there the longest and it has one of the most well developed bodies of countract law in the U.S.). Do you nanny for free? No? Then don't ask usto give you legal advice for free.
In typical shyster fashion, encourage the unsuspecting public to line your pockets as you pretend to do useful work.
In answer to your question, some professional nannies do offer pro bono services on occasion, just as some attorneys do.
Again, if there have ever been any nannies held liable for breach of contract, to pay damages for not completing the term of her agreement, surely someone on this forum would have heard of it. How ridiculous of you to request a tidy little sum of $10,000. to confirm common knowledge. You are an utter embarrassment to your profession, and a prime example of why so few of you can be trusted.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 12:20
Subject: Contract for Nanny
It seems that any case that was the first of its kind, would make the news. So far no one on this forum has ever heard of a nanny being held financially liable for not upholding a nanny agreement.
Again, the only court cases we've heard about are for abuse/neglect in which case the so called "nanny" rightfully goes to jail if she's found guilty.
Again, the only court cases we've heard about are for abuse/neglect in which case the so called "nanny" rightfully goes to jail if she's found guilty.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 09:31
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Why would a small claims court case make headlines?
Also, I agree with the poster who gave suggestions on contract topics a few pages back. I'd add an expected time frame for sick day call ins and an agreement on whether or not the nanny is paid when you're not in town. If you expect the nanny to get vaccinated for things like pertussis or the flu, either discuss it beforehand or put it in the contract.
Also, I agree with the poster who gave suggestions on contract topics a few pages back. I'd add an expected time frame for sick day call ins and an agreement on whether or not the nanny is paid when you're not in town. If you expect the nanny to get vaccinated for things like pertussis or the flu, either discuss it beforehand or put it in the contract.
Anonymous
06/02/2013 06:24
Subject: Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:I just think it's so funny that so many nannies complain about not getting paid extra to wash a dish or fold a shirt but then they go and tell someone else to work for free... Nice guys. I'm a nanny and personally it doesn't matter if a contract/agreement is legally binding or not. If I accept the job and agree with all of the terms then I hold my end of it. Simple as that.
Where was anyone told to go work for free?
Anonymous
06/01/2013 22:58
Subject: Contract for Nanny
(Pp here) But then again I'm one of the few nannies that goes out of my way to make my mb/db lives easier. I may not fit in here.
Anonymous
06/01/2013 22:56
Subject: Contract for Nanny
I just think it's so funny that so many nannies complain about not getting paid extra to wash a dish or fold a shirt but then they go and tell someone else to work for free... Nice guys. I'm a nanny and personally it doesn't matter if a contract/agreement is legally binding or not. If I accept the job and agree with all of the terms then I hold my end of it. Simple as that.
Anonymous
06/01/2013 21:36
Subject: Re:Contract for Nanny
I don't think I've ever seen vitriol and disrespect on this board for nannies as a group. The vast majority of MBs who post here speak very highly of their nannies, pay them well, and make a true effort to treat them fairly or better. I have seen plenty of vitriol and disrespect for a couple of specific nannies who repeatedly post ignorant, angry nonsense on this board. They've earned it many times over. Without question, most of the vitriol and anger on here is directed toward employers.
+1000.
Anonymous
05/31/2013 23:14
Subject: Re:Contract for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We would be glad to answer you, PP, if you would like to pay our fees to provide you with this advice. I do not know about the other lawyers on this thread, but at my billable rate and leverage factor, you would be looking at a bill of about $10,000 for me to have some fo the attorneys I supervise prepare a memo for you on the point, assuming of course that you are willing to take such a memo based on one of the three jurisdictions in which I am licensed to practice (although I would prefer to write on New York law since I have been barred there the longest and it has one of the most well developed bodies of countract law in the U.S.). Do you nanny for free? No? Then don't ask usto give you legal advice for free.
In typical shyster fashion, encourage the unsuspecting public to line your pockets as you pretend to do useful work.
In answer to your question, some professional nannies do offer pro bono services on occasion, just as some attorneys do.
Again, if there have ever been any nannies held liable for breach of contract, to pay damages for not completing the term of her agreement, surely someone on this forum would have heard of it. How ridiculous of you to request a tidy little sum of $10,000. to confirm common knowledge. You are an utter embarrassment to your profession, and a prime example of why so few of you can be trusted.
Yeesh, PP, you're very insulting and not very smart. You're asking a professional to do your "useful work" for free. This is work that requires a great deal of research and writing and is certainly worth its price tag, or you would be able to do that work yourself. Show some respect for services you want and the people who can give those services.
Gee, I wonder if that includes nannies as well??? I'm not the PP, and I think she's wrong, but I had to point out the irony of that statement in a forum where the vitriol and disrespect toward nannies knows no bounds.
I don't think I've ever seen vitriol and disrespect on this board for nannies as a group. The vast majority of MBs who post here speak very highly of their nannies, pay them well, and make a true effort to treat them fairly or better. I have seen plenty of vitriol and disrespect for a couple of specific nannies who repeatedly post ignorant, angry nonsense on this board. They've earned it many times over. Without question, most of the vitriol and anger on here is directed toward employers.
Really? You've never noticed the constant digs about status, class, and education? You've never seen the sweeping accusations of entitlement, laziness, and stupidity? The word nanny used as an insult, ie. "you don't know what you're talking about nanny". Youve never noticed that any time there is a heated debate between an MB and a nanny that said MB will typically insult her intelligence, correct her grammar, and tell her to go back to school as though none of us are college educated? Or if a nanny complains about wages, she is told to get an education and a real job? Read through any of the most recent threads and I assure you its there.