Anonymous
04/17/2013 12:53
Subject: Re:The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one has explained why a nanny who would make $15 an hour for 2 kids if she was searching for a job (not marketable to find $18 an hour for 2 kids for a new job) deserves a wage higher than her market value just because her existing family had another child. A bigger bump would make sense if there was a $2-$3 differential in hiring a nanny for 2 kids rather than 1 but this difference doesn't exist when you are hiring a nanny.
No one has explained why if a nanny deserves a big bump once the workload increases why a nanny doesn't also deserve a salary reduction when the workload declines (kids go to part time preschool, grow out of infant stage and into long nap stage). Some nannies even expect raises when their workload is declining.
There just isn't much logic with nannies.
The infant stage IS the long nap stage, Einstein.
No it isn't. The infant stage is the unpredictable but highly portable age. The toddler stage is the age of long, predictable naps. My 2.5 YO DS takes a 3 to 4 hour nap every day, 2 to 5.30 - 6 pm.
And how many babies have you worked with?
Anonymous
04/17/2013 12:49
Subject: Re:The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one has explained why a nanny who would make $15 an hour for 2 kids if she was searching for a job (not marketable to find $18 an hour for 2 kids for a new job) deserves a wage higher than her market value just because her existing family had another child. A bigger bump would make sense if there was a $2-$3 differential in hiring a nanny for 2 kids rather than 1 but this difference doesn't exist when you are hiring a nanny.
No one has explained why if a nanny deserves a big bump once the workload increases why a nanny doesn't also deserve a salary reduction when the workload declines (kids go to part time preschool, grow out of infant stage and into long nap stage). Some nannies even expect raises when their workload is declining.
There just isn't much logic with nannies.
The infant stage IS the long nap stage, Einstein.
No it isn't. The infant stage is the unpredictable but highly portable age. The toddler stage is the age of long, predictable naps. My 2.5 YO DS takes a 3 to 4 hour nap every day, 2 to 5.30 - 6 pm.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 12:47
Subject: Re:The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:No one has explained why a nanny who would make $15 an hour for 2 kids if she was searching for a job (not marketable to find $18 an hour for 2 kids for a new job) deserves a wage higher than her market value just because her existing family had another child. A bigger bump would make sense if there was a $2-$3 differential in hiring a nanny for 2 kids rather than 1 but this difference doesn't exist when you are hiring a nanny.
No one has explained why if a nanny deserves a big bump once the workload increases why a nanny doesn't also deserve a salary reduction when the workload declines (kids go to part time preschool, grow out of infant stage and into long nap stage). Some nannies even expect raises when their workload is declining.
There just isn't much logic with nannies.
The infant stage IS the long nap stage, Einstein.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 12:33
Subject: Re:The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
No one has explained why a nanny who would make $15 an hour for 2 kids if she was searching for a job (not marketable to find $18 an hour for 2 kids for a new job) deserves a wage higher than her market value just because her existing family had another child. A bigger bump would make sense if there was a $2-$3 differential in hiring a nanny for 2 kids rather than 1 but this difference doesn't exist when you are hiring a nanny.
No one has explained why if a nanny deserves a big bump once the workload increases why a nanny doesn't also deserve a salary reduction when the workload declines (kids go to part time preschool, grow out of infant stage and into long nap stage). Some nannies even expect raises when their workload is declining.
There just isn't much logic with nannies.
No one has explained why if a nanny deserves a big bump once the workload increases why a nanny doesn't also deserve a salary reduction when the workload declines (kids go to part time preschool, grow out of infant stage and into long nap stage). Some nannies even expect raises when their workload is declining.
There just isn't much logic with nannies.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 12:25
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
How much discount do you do get at preschool for your second child?
ScarletIbis
04/17/2013 12:03
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
NP here,
I think $2/hr increase is appropriate but $1/hr is too low, especially if the nanny has many housekeeping responsibilities. Between $2-$3 seems like an ideal situation, especially if there are two under two years old. A nanny at 15/hr then making 18/hr is not really ridiculous ($120/wk more ~ $360 per child). But as I said that is IMO.
I'd say it is heavily based on the ages of the children and the nanny's other responsibilities to assess the overall work load that is added.
I think $2/hr increase is appropriate but $1/hr is too low, especially if the nanny has many housekeeping responsibilities. Between $2-$3 seems like an ideal situation, especially if there are two under two years old. A nanny at 15/hr then making 18/hr is not really ridiculous ($120/wk more ~ $360 per child). But as I said that is IMO.
I'd say it is heavily based on the ages of the children and the nanny's other responsibilities to assess the overall work load that is added.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 11:46
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:I feel like some people on this board are truly illiterate. No one, now read carefully here, NO ONE, said it has to be doubled!!! It's been said that 1-2 dollars more is insufficient.
At least one person has explained why an increase of one to two dollars make sense. If you disagree, why don't you post your take on the appropriate raise for the second child, and your reasons. Exclamation marks alone don't quite cut it.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 11:32
Subject: Re:The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Gotta love nanny logic. This is why some nannies are always unemployed.
So according to nanny logic, a MB having a second child should result in doubling the salary even though the market rates for 2 kids versus 1 is now near doubled. (In nanny logic, it doesn't occur to nannies that employers would just dump the nanny with the ridiculous rate and hire a new nanny at standard market rates for 2 kids. )
If the nanny wants to bring her child, there should be either no reduction or only a modest reduction.
So according to nanny logic, a MB having a second child should result in doubling the salary even though the market rates for 2 kids versus 1 is now near doubled. (In nanny logic, it doesn't occur to nannies that employers would just dump the nanny with the ridiculous rate and hire a new nanny at standard market rates for 2 kids. )
If the nanny wants to bring her child, there should be either no reduction or only a modest reduction.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 11:11
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Go ahead and ask for what you think it's worth. If your employer agrees, then all is well. If they follow market norms, they will not pay it.
Let us know how it works out for you.
Let us know how it works out for you.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 09:23
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
I feel like some people on this board are truly illiterate. No one, now read carefully here, NO ONE, said it has to be doubled!!! It's been said that 1-2 dollars more is insufficient.
Anonymous
04/17/2013 07:18
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The market determines the rate. Good luck going from $15 to $30 when a baby arrives.
You have no clue what the real "market rate" is. All you do know, is what your friends tell you.
I don't have any nanny friends. Also, I have a firm grasp on the market rate.
Even if you own one of the domestic payroll companies or nanny agencies, that is only one corner of the market. So how is it that you believe you have a "firm grasp on the market rate"? I hope you are not going to cite one of the many polls that ask people to claim what they want.
Whoever thought she had a grasp on the market, had a gap in her brain.
I just don't see the point in arguing with stupid. I'm paid for my time, experience and workload. An additional child does not double those things.
If you can find a market that supports such lunacy, good on you. But, it's not a realistic goal or in line with market rates.
Anonymous
04/16/2013 12:34
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know any hospice workers personally but I do know of nurses that earn roughly 115k per year. So yeah, they're not gonna be buying a new benz every 6 months but they're not exactly struggling now are they? And any nanny who thinks they can make that kind of money just from being a nanny is absolutely out of their mind.
Don't you read the newspaper? The press loves to write about nannies earning over $100K, just because of the shock value for people like you.
I am a big news reader and never hear about nannies making 100K.. Maybe Celebrity nannies but your average nanny, lmao, NO.
NP here.
Not sure who I'm supporting/disagreeing with here, but I am a moderate news reader and I do see articles about those highly-paid nannies in the news with relative frequency (a few times a year). Not sure why you haven't.
Obviously they are outliers, though.
Anonymous
04/16/2013 12:33
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:
So interesting how when your're doing a share, you want to pay only 1/2 of the nanny's rates.
However, if it's your new baby doubling (at least) nanny's responsibilities, then it's worth only $1-2. extra pay.
Are nannies really THAT stupid???
No one doubles their workload for an extra $2/hr.
....No one except for dumb nannies who can't do basic mathematics.
yes they do - my husband lost money with his last 2 promotions (e.g., assistant manager to branch manager). Double the work never means double the money unless you are talking doubling the hours worked perhaps.
Anonymous
04/16/2013 12:28
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The market determines the rate. Good luck going from $15 to $30 when a baby arrives.
You have no clue what the real "market rate" is. All you do know, is what your friends tell you.
I don't have any nanny friends. Also, I have a firm grasp on the market rate.
Even if you own one of the domestic payroll companies or nanny agencies, that is only one corner of the market. So how is it that you believe you have a "firm grasp on the market rate"? I hope you are not going to cite one of the many polls that ask people to claim what they want.
Whoever thought she had a grasp on the market, had a gap in her brain.
Anonymous
04/16/2013 12:24
Subject: The *real* price of an additional child for Nanny
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know any hospice workers personally but I do know of nurses that earn roughly 115k per year. So yeah, they're not gonna be buying a new benz every 6 months but they're not exactly struggling now are they? And any nanny who thinks they can make that kind of money just from being a nanny is absolutely out of their mind.
Don't you read the newspaper? The press loves to write about nannies earning over $100K, just because of the shock value for people like you.
I am a big news reader and never hear about nannies making 100K.. Maybe Celebrity nannies but your average nanny, lmao, NO.