Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 22:50     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.


I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.



Maybe they have a vulnerable child at home who can't get vaccinated until 2022!


In this case, no. These teachers are young with no kids (and unmarried). One teacher has one child who is attending hybrid school. It’s possible some live with other people but it’s not likely that over 3/4 of the faculty have extenuating circumstances that prevent them from teaching in person once vaccinated.


Newsflash: unmarried people can have children, too. Some of us even do that and hire au pairs and post on this board!


No wayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! And they might, gulp, actually have elderly relatives living with them too? In what universe?


I never said that unmarried people couldn’t or don’t have kids. I said that these particular teachers are childless and single. If they live with elderly relatives or have another vulnerability then why not explain to families who are left completely in the dark as to what these teachers are doing? Details not needed but right now it simply feels like there are a majority of teachers who just don’t want to come in.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 18:30     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.


I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.



Maybe they have a vulnerable child at home who can't get vaccinated until 2022!


In this case, no. These teachers are young with no kids (and unmarried). One teacher has one child who is attending hybrid school. It’s possible some live with other people but it’s not likely that over 3/4 of the faculty have extenuating circumstances that prevent them from teaching in person once vaccinated.


Newsflash: unmarried people can have children, too. Some of us even do that and hire au pairs and post on this board!


No wayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! And they might, gulp, actually have elderly relatives living with them too? In what universe?
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 17:40     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.


I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.



Maybe they have a vulnerable child at home who can't get vaccinated until 2022!


In this case, no. These teachers are young with no kids (and unmarried). One teacher has one child who is attending hybrid school. It’s possible some live with other people but it’s not likely that over 3/4 of the faculty have extenuating circumstances that prevent them from teaching in person once vaccinated.


Newsflash: unmarried people can have children, too. Some of us even do that and hire au pairs and post on this board!
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 16:43     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

I don't understand why we don't let APs get the vaccine in their own country.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 14:45     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AP from California who was eligible is in her second extension and will be leaving in a week and half a few days after getting my vaccine.


I personally didn’t expect to be eligible for the vaccine nor that I would even get a spot before I live and while I do feel I shouldn’t have been prioritized as an Au pair and I disagree with who CA has chosen to prioritized, I don’t feel bad for getting it even if I am leaving straight after it. I am moving back in with my grandma who is in recovery from a brain tumor and has other health issues and is high risk. Back home she isn’t yet available for the vaccine so knowing that I am reducing the risk by getting vaccinated is worth it to me.

Also I have spent a year in one of the worst state for COVID-19 , risking my health for little to no benefits as California had the strictest lockdown and my host family had strict rules. I went through two years of awful fire and smoke, again risking my health to the sole benefit of my host families and host Kids. So when it comes down to it, I don’t feel bad for benefiting from a vaccine through my job because the vaccine is probably the sole benefit I have had from my job in the last 12 months. The US has been the worst place for COVID-19, I personally don’t intend on going and bringing it back to my country who has been more proactive at stoping the spread when I can reduce the chances of me doing so by getting the vaccine.

Should Au pairs be prioritized for getting the vaccine? Absolutely not. Should they feel bad for getting vaccinated when they are eligible in their state? No.

I don’t think Au pairs are leaving because they can get the vaccine and that’s what they came for. I think some Au pairs wanted to leave and figured they might as well get vaccinated before they do. I am leaving because I have had lots of health issues and we agreed with my host family that I should leave early (2 weeks before the end of my visa and with 3 months notice so not agreed post vaccine), I had the opportunity to get vaccinated, but if I had wanted to rematch or leave because I wasn’t happy and there was a chance I could get the vaccine before I got home I would probably do so too. We all have vulnerable family members, coming from the US is one of the worst place we could travel from, why not lower the risk for our loved ones and reduce the worldwide spread if we can?



Were you paid more than the minimum? Did your HF offer any other benefits given the circumstances? Was your education paid for? I too would like to know what motivated you to stick around? Best wishes for a safe return.


I got a raise pre-COVID so was paid the same throughout COVID, I stayed and extended the extra 6 months because they are a really good family and iI had hoped things would get better COVID wise during my last 6 months extension, but it never really did (only now I am leaving ironically). This year has been super rough and I definitely at times regretted my extra extension. But I LOVE the kids (I still refuse to accept I am leaving them) and loved the parents and I know that if it wasn’t for COVID I would have had the time of my life. In fact even with COVID if it wasn’t for my health issues I would have stayed until the end because despite me not being super thrilled with their rules. they have been a Top-notch family and I am just sad we didn’t have the best conditions to make the most of the year and half we had together.


I will always be sad COVID took a year and half of a time in a country I will never ever have back so I think the Covid vaccine is a small consolation price for caregivers of all kinds who held the fort for workers all around the country but in many cases specifically for healthcare workers (many Au pairs work for families with doctors and nurses) who wouldn’t necessarily have been able to continue to work and do their job as efficiently as they did had they had to scramble for childcare.


I appreciate your kind wishes and best wishes to you too as we all continue to navigate this pandemic.


Thanks for sharing. Hearing from you definitely helped me better understand what our au pair may have been going through. She left early at end of Jan after extending. We kept telling her over and over again that it's going to get worse, winter will be hard, good chance things will start to shut down again (i.e. are you sure you want to extend with us), but I do think she heard us, but was also hoping for an improvement. tough choices all around.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 03:23     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AP from California who was eligible is in her second extension and will be leaving in a week and half a few days after getting my vaccine.


I personally didn’t expect to be eligible for the vaccine nor that I would even get a spot before I live and while I do feel I shouldn’t have been prioritized as an Au pair and I disagree with who CA has chosen to prioritized, I don’t feel bad for getting it even if I am leaving straight after it. I am moving back in with my grandma who is in recovery from a brain tumor and has other health issues and is high risk. Back home she isn’t yet available for the vaccine so knowing that I am reducing the risk by getting vaccinated is worth it to me.

Also I have spent a year in one of the worst state for COVID-19 , risking my health for little to no benefits as California had the strictest lockdown and my host family had strict rules. I went through two years of awful fire and smoke, again risking my health to the sole benefit of my host families and host Kids. So when it comes down to it, I don’t feel bad for benefiting from a vaccine through my job because the vaccine is probably the sole benefit I have had from my job in the last 12 months. The US has been the worst place for COVID-19, I personally don’t intend on going and bringing it back to my country who has been more proactive at stoping the spread when I can reduce the chances of me doing so by getting the vaccine.

Should Au pairs be prioritized for getting the vaccine? Absolutely not. Should they feel bad for getting vaccinated when they are eligible in their state? No.

I don’t think Au pairs are leaving because they can get the vaccine and that’s what they came for. I think some Au pairs wanted to leave and figured they might as well get vaccinated before they do. I am leaving because I have had lots of health issues and we agreed with my host family that I should leave early (2 weeks before the end of my visa and with 3 months notice so not agreed post vaccine), I had the opportunity to get vaccinated, but if I had wanted to rematch or leave because I wasn’t happy and there was a chance I could get the vaccine before I got home I would probably do so too. We all have vulnerable family members, coming from the US is one of the worst place we could travel from, why not lower the risk for our loved ones and reduce the worldwide spread if we can?



Were you paid more than the minimum? Did your HF offer any other benefits given the circumstances? Was your education paid for? I too would like to know what motivated you to stick around? Best wishes for a safe return.


I got a raise pre-COVID so was paid the same throughout COVID, I stayed and extended the extra 6 months because they are a really good family and iI had hoped things would get better COVID wise during my last 6 months extension, but it never really did (only now I am leaving ironically). This year has been super rough and I definitely at times regretted my extra extension. But I LOVE the kids (I still refuse to accept I am leaving them) and loved the parents and I know that if it wasn’t for COVID I would have had the time of my life. In fact even with COVID if it wasn’t for my health issues I would have stayed until the end because despite me not being super thrilled with their rules. they have been a Top-notch family and I am just sad we didn’t have the best conditions to make the most of the year and half we had together.


I will always be sad COVID took a year and half of a time in a country I will never ever have back so I think the Covid vaccine is a small consolation price for caregivers of all kinds who held the fort for workers all around the country but in many cases specifically for healthcare workers (many Au pairs work for families with doctors and nurses) who wouldn’t necessarily have been able to continue to work and do their job as efficiently as they did had they had to scramble for childcare.


I appreciate your kind wishes and best wishes to you too as we all continue to navigate this pandemic.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:48     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.


I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.



Maybe they have a vulnerable child at home who can't get vaccinated until 2022!


In this case, no. These teachers are young with no kids (and unmarried). One teacher has one child who is attending hybrid school. It’s possible some live with other people but it’s not likely that over 3/4 of the faculty have extenuating circumstances that prevent them from teaching in person once vaccinated.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:21     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.


I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.



Maybe they have a vulnerable child at home who can't get vaccinated until 2022!
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:14     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.


I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:00     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:AP from California who was eligible is in her second extension and will be leaving in a week and half a few days after getting my vaccine.


I personally didn’t expect to be eligible for the vaccine nor that I would even get a spot before I live and while I do feel I shouldn’t have been prioritized as an Au pair and I disagree with who CA has chosen to prioritized, I don’t feel bad for getting it even if I am leaving straight after it. I am moving back in with my grandma who is in recovery from a brain tumor and has other health issues and is high risk. Back home she isn’t yet available for the vaccine so knowing that I am reducing the risk by getting vaccinated is worth it to me.

Also I have spent a year in one of the worst state for COVID-19 , risking my health for little to no benefits as California had the strictest lockdown and my host family had strict rules. I went through two years of awful fire and smoke, again risking my health to the sole benefit of my host families and host Kids. So when it comes down to it, I don’t feel bad for benefiting from a vaccine through my job because the vaccine is probably the sole benefit I have had from my job in the last 12 months. The US has been the worst place for COVID-19, I personally don’t intend on going and bringing it back to my country who has been more proactive at stoping the spread when I can reduce the chances of me doing so by getting the vaccine.

Should Au pairs be prioritized for getting the vaccine? Absolutely not. Should they feel bad for getting vaccinated when they are eligible in their state? No.

I don’t think Au pairs are leaving because they can get the vaccine and that’s what they came for. I think some Au pairs wanted to leave and figured they might as well get vaccinated before they do. I am leaving because I have had lots of health issues and we agreed with my host family that I should leave early (2 weeks before the end of my visa and with 3 months notice so not agreed post vaccine), I had the opportunity to get vaccinated, but if I had wanted to rematch or leave because I wasn’t happy and there was a chance I could get the vaccine before I got home I would probably do so too. We all have vulnerable family members, coming from the US is one of the worst place we could travel from, why not lower the risk for our loved ones and reduce the worldwide spread if we can?



Were you paid more than the minimum? Did your HF offer any other benefits given the circumstances? Was your education paid for? I too would like to know what motivated you to stick around? Best wishes for a safe return.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 22:51     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:AP from California who was eligible is in her second extension and will be leaving in a week and half a few days after getting my vaccine.


I personally didn’t expect to be eligible for the vaccine nor that I would even get a spot before I live and while I do feel I shouldn’t have been prioritized as an Au pair and I disagree with who CA has chosen to prioritized, I don’t feel bad for getting it even if I am leaving straight after it. I am moving back in with my grandma who is in recovery from a brain tumor and has other health issues and is high risk. Back home she isn’t yet available for the vaccine so knowing that I am reducing the risk by getting vaccinated is worth it to me.

Also I have spent a year in one of the worst state for COVID-19 , risking my health for little to no benefits as California had the strictest lockdown and my host family had strict rules. I went through two years of awful fire and smoke, again risking my health to the sole benefit of my host families and host Kids. So when it comes down to it, I don’t feel bad for benefiting from a vaccine through my job because the vaccine is probably the sole benefit I have had from my job in the last 12 months. The US has been the worst place for COVID-19, I personally don’t intend on going and bringing it back to my country who has been more proactive at stoping the spread when I can reduce the chances of me doing so by getting the vaccine.

Should Au pairs be prioritized for getting the vaccine? Absolutely not. Should they feel bad for getting vaccinated when they are eligible in their state? No.

I don’t think Au pairs are leaving because they can get the vaccine and that’s what they came for. I think some Au pairs wanted to leave and figured they might as well get vaccinated before they do. I am leaving because I have had lots of health issues and we agreed with my host family that I should leave early (2 weeks before the end of my visa and with 3 months notice so not agreed post vaccine), I had the opportunity to get vaccinated, but if I had wanted to rematch or leave because I wasn’t happy and there was a chance I could get the vaccine before I got home I would probably do so too. We all have vulnerable family members, coming from the US is one of the worst place we could travel from, why not lower the risk for our loved ones and reduce the worldwide spread if we can?



I am curious as to why you stayed for as long as you did?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 22:50     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?



Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 22:43     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

AP from California who was eligible is in her second extension and will be leaving in a week and half a few days after getting my vaccine.


I personally didn’t expect to be eligible for the vaccine nor that I would even get a spot before I live and while I do feel I shouldn’t have been prioritized as an Au pair and I disagree with who CA has chosen to prioritized, I don’t feel bad for getting it even if I am leaving straight after it. I am moving back in with my grandma who is in recovery from a brain tumor and has other health issues and is high risk. Back home she isn’t yet available for the vaccine so knowing that I am reducing the risk by getting vaccinated is worth it to me.

Also I have spent a year in one of the worst state for COVID-19 , risking my health for little to no benefits as California had the strictest lockdown and my host family had strict rules. I went through two years of awful fire and smoke, again risking my health to the sole benefit of my host families and host Kids. So when it comes down to it, I don’t feel bad for benefiting from a vaccine through my job because the vaccine is probably the sole benefit I have had from my job in the last 12 months. The US has been the worst place for COVID-19, I personally don’t intend on going and bringing it back to my country who has been more proactive at stoping the spread when I can reduce the chances of me doing so by getting the vaccine.

Should Au pairs be prioritized for getting the vaccine? Absolutely not. Should they feel bad for getting vaccinated when they are eligible in their state? No.

I don’t think Au pairs are leaving because they can get the vaccine and that’s what they came for. I think some Au pairs wanted to leave and figured they might as well get vaccinated before they do. I am leaving because I have had lots of health issues and we agreed with my host family that I should leave early (2 weeks before the end of my visa and with 3 months notice so not agreed post vaccine), I had the opportunity to get vaccinated, but if I had wanted to rematch or leave because I wasn’t happy and there was a chance I could get the vaccine before I got home I would probably do so too. We all have vulnerable family members, coming from the US is one of the worst place we could travel from, why not lower the risk for our loved ones and reduce the worldwide spread if we can?

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 22:36     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 21:47     Subject: 2nd dose and rematch

Anonymous wrote:The way I see it this is a slippery slope. Technically the ap was eligible when she got it, but clearly she knew she was leaving. So technically it’s legit. It’s like using a work benefit when you know you’ve got another job lined up. The sticking point here is that these vaccines are in short supply so I it would be like getting the vaccine as a nurse knowing you’re about to quit to be a home based chocolatier


Yeah, I’m sure not the only person who got a vaccine and then quit their job during the pandemic. It’s a risk of basing vaccine priority on job titles. Whatever. Get your vaccine when you can. Sign up as a ordained minister on the internet for $20 and you’ll be in the 1B group as clergy.

In six months, everyone who wants a vaccine should be able to get it.