Anonymous
06/01/2020 18:47
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:I am ! I am! And you obviously have no idea that most Kindergartners entering MCPS with ESOL assignments stay in ESOL most of elementary school. The parents want their kids to stay there as they get extra attention and do not fall behind.
I didn’t say they couldn’t stay in ESOL, I said that it’s unnecessary.
My best friend in high school spoke English without an accent. She was a refugee from Bosnia, entering US schools without a single word of English. Yet by the end of the year (she was 10), she was able to read on grade level, translate for her parents and advocate for herself. I tutor 3rd grade through college, and the kids who start with a language other than English before going to school have an advantage in science (Greek and Latin roots and terms), English (vocabulary, spelling inconsistencies) and foreign language (brain pathways are established, making learning languages easier). There is NO downside to a child speaking a language other than English prior to school.
Anonymous
06/01/2020 13:39
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:I am ! I am! And you obviously have no idea that most Kindergartners entering MCPS with ESOL assignments stay in ESOL most of elementary school. The parents want their kids to stay there as they get extra attention and do not fall behind.
A) One can decline ESL services; B) many of the kids in ESOL have parents who are illiterate in their own native language; C) the highest predictor of academic success in any language is the education level of the mother; D) if educated parents make the choice to prioritize foreign language skills for young children, it does not mean that "your tax dollars" are going to be wasted on ESOL; E) Have you ever watched the Scripps National Spelling Bee -bilingualism has served children quite well!
Anonymous
06/01/2020 13:02
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
I am ! I am! And you obviously have no idea that most Kindergartners entering MCPS with ESOL assignments stay in ESOL most of elementary school. The parents want their kids to stay there as they get extra attention and do not fall behind.
Anonymous
06/01/2020 11:12
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What percentage of American parents are really allowing the AP to teach the child her native language and culture?
Our AP communicates to our toddler solely in the target language (our requirement) and to us solely in the target language (her choice). When she cooks (rare), she cooks her native foods. She organizes holiday celebrations from her tradition. She takes (pre-quarantine) toddler to target language events. She now does zoom language events with toddler. We would not have an AP were it not for the language piece.
Same for us. The only reason I am willing to deal with the hassle of having someone live in my house, restrict my food choices, etc. is for the language/cultural exchange. This is my gift to my children. For me, having a nanny would be MUCH easier.
Where do the children learn about their own culture?
When they are school-age and no fully longer in an target language immersive environment. Our DD is 2.5 and doesn't speak English. And we do not care.
Yaayy! More employment for ESOL teachers like me. But more taxes for you folks.
Please tell me that you are not really an ESOL teacher.
Anonymous
06/01/2020 09:40
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What percentage of American parents are really allowing the AP to teach the child her native language and culture?
Our AP communicates to our toddler solely in the target language (our requirement) and to us solely in the target language (her choice). When she cooks (rare), she cooks her native foods. She organizes holiday celebrations from her tradition. She takes (pre-quarantine) toddler to target language events. She now does zoom language events with toddler. We would not have an AP were it not for the language piece.
Same for us. The only reason I am willing to deal with the hassle of having someone live in my house, restrict my food choices, etc. is for the language/cultural exchange. This is my gift to my children. For me, having a nanny would be MUCH easier.
Where do the children learn about their own culture?
When they are school-age and no fully longer in an target language immersive environment. Our DD is 2.5 and doesn't speak English. And we do not care.
Yaayy! More employment for ESOL teachers like me. But more taxes for you folks.
If you really were an ESOL teacher, you would know how ignorant you sound. Our DD will being going to an immersion elementary school, and then a bilingual middle and high school. She has plenty of time to learn English and a limited time to learn foreign languages with ease. She has three passports and ideally will be able to go to college with multiple options without the bone-crushing student loan debt that many carry to their graves.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 22:12
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What percentage of American parents are really allowing the AP to teach the child her native language and culture?
Our AP communicates to our toddler solely in the target language (our requirement) and to us solely in the target language (her choice). When she cooks (rare), she cooks her native foods. She organizes holiday celebrations from her tradition. She takes (pre-quarantine) toddler to target language events. She now does zoom language events with toddler. We would not have an AP were it not for the language piece.
Same for us. The only reason I am willing to deal with the hassle of having someone live in my house, restrict my food choices, etc. is for the language/cultural exchange. This is my gift to my children. For me, having a nanny would be MUCH easier.
Where do the children learn about their own culture?
When they are school-age and no fully longer in an target language immersive environment. Our DD is 2.5 and doesn't speak English. And we do not care.
Yaayy! More employment for ESOL teachers like me. But more taxes for you folks.
Most kids in the US will be fully fluent in English by the end of kindergarten, without intervention of ESOL teachers, regardless of their first language. It happens all the time in Texas in small schools that simply can’t afford ESOL teachers. Kids go into parent-teacher conferences in first and second to translate for their parents. Kudos to PP for prioritizing another language at a critical age, likely one that you can’t find as easily in the US.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 21:16
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What percentage of American parents are really allowing the AP to teach the child her native language and culture?
Our AP communicates to our toddler solely in the target language (our requirement) and to us solely in the target language (her choice). When she cooks (rare), she cooks her native foods. She organizes holiday celebrations from her tradition. She takes (pre-quarantine) toddler to target language events. She now does zoom language events with toddler. We would not have an AP were it not for the language piece.
Same for us. The only reason I am willing to deal with the hassle of having someone live in my house, restrict my food choices, etc. is for the language/cultural exchange. This is my gift to my children. For me, having a nanny would be MUCH easier.
Where do the children learn about their own culture?
When they are school-age and no fully longer in an target language immersive environment. Our DD is 2.5 and doesn't speak English. And we do not care.
Yaayy! More employment for ESOL teachers like me. But more taxes for you folks.
Anonymous
05/31/2020 12:29
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As much as it would suck, I think this would be the right call. We need more Americans with jobs not less. Fill the pockets of Americans in these times. Go back to hiring foreign workers when things calm down.
Most people can’t afford nannies. Some can afford au pairs. If they can, they should prioritize childcare in their homes, since daycares are Petri dishes.
Wait? I though AuPairs were a cultural exchange, not an opportunity to exploit cheap foreign labor. My bad.
The cultural exchange thing is just a euphemism .
Anonymous
05/30/2020 21:43
Subject: Re:J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with this too. BUT my budget is not more than 2000$ a month on childcare, which is what a typical au pair would cost (consider au pair's weekly stipend and agency charges). If I have to get a nanny for even 40 hours per week (160 hours in a month), that means I will have to find a nanny at 12.5$ per hour plus risk the fact that the nanny would be "out of my sight" for outside of that 40 hours per week. So if the nanny catches the virus, me and family are at risk. There is significant merit in the au pair program, especially in the current COVID world we live in. If I can find a live in nanny, who is American, and who would cost me the same amount of money that an au pair does, I am all in! Otherwise, unfortunately, I cannot employ an american at this point and would rather want to rely on au pairs
For $400/40 hours, you can afford to both go through an agency and hire a beginning live-in nanny.
Live in (American) nanny for $400/40 hours? Where?
Your Child’s nanny
NannyPoppinz
Very useful info! THank you
Any other agency that places first time live-in nannies will help you. They will have experience (Nannypoppinz requires 2 years, ycn requires 1year), and $10/hour is average to start. If the fee is more than 15% of the first year’s salary, move on.
Anonymous
05/30/2020 19:41
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the childcare workers in the country are not American citizens, many are hear illegally, which in the current climate is dangerous - they could be raided and your non-verbal kid is in CPS before you know it.
you are tiresome!
But, very true. Do you want your kid in CPS?
Anonymous
05/30/2020 17:24
Subject: J-1 visa ban?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As much as it would suck, I think this would be the right call. We need more Americans with jobs not less. Fill the pockets of Americans in these times. Go back to hiring foreign workers when things calm down.
Most people can’t afford nannies. Some can afford au pairs. If they can, they should prioritize childcare in their homes, since daycares are Petri dishes.
Wait? I though AuPairs were a cultural exchange, not an opportunity to exploit cheap foreign labor. My bad.
I’m a nanny, and I don’t believe in exploiting in anyone. I do believe in giving APs the opportunity to come here for whatever experience they can get. Most important in the current environment, I’m firmly against kids being exposed unnecessarily, so in-home childcare is my vote. Whether that means parents staggering their schedules and doing it themselves, pairing up with the neighbor next door in a closed loop, hiring a nanny, finding an AP, hoping that a nanny share keeps your child safer... Any of the above are better options than daycare.