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Post 02/06/2016 16:19     Subject: What to do? At the limit!

Anonymous wrote:OP here, yes I want to help her be more marketable. She is very smart and from South America so that is why getting a GED would help her here. Thanks again all!


MB here. I think helping her get her GED is a great idea. Other ideas (which are nontaxable to her and you) are contributions towards vision and dental insurance or to an IRA.
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Post 02/06/2016 15:33     Subject: What to do? At the limit!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much. These are great ideas. I know she wants to get a GED and we can pay for a course and perhaps a bonus. I will talk to her and get her ideas. I want to be fair. She truly is a great person and nanny.


You truly cannot afford a $1.00 an hour raise? She has been with you for a long resredgiven you reliable and trusted childcare and you cannot give her a token raise. Cheap.


How do you know OP is cheap? You don't know what she is paying AND OP is paying health insurance. Most nannies dont get that. BTW, you do realize a $1/hr could amount to $2000 a month, depending on the hours, taxes, etc.


Not sure if you know this, but there aren't even 2000 hours in a month. There's not even 1000 lol.


Ok, I'm completely dumbfounded. 24 hours per day * 31 days= 744 hours. Even if the nanny were to make overtime every single hour of the month (not possible, of course), that would only be 1116.

Based on an average of 50 hours per week, a $1 raise per hour would require OP to pay $2080 extra for regular hours and $780 more in overtime pay for the year, it would also raise OP's employer taxes a very small amount. There are many families for whom almost $3K could be a large part of their discretionary spending, but I don't know whether OP is cheap or not, we simply don't have enough information to decide. We don't know how much the nanny is currently making, we don't know what else OP has in the budget. All we know is that OP said that their family can't afford it.

With that said, OP's nanny may be able to get help through a literacy center, or her hours may be such that she can't. If she can't, OP could pay for a class or one-on-one tutoring, but classes would be cheaper, and more within their budget. Tutoring is expensive, and would likely amount to more than the $1/hour raise.


First of all $2080 is not "almost 3k" it's just barely over 2k. And you think a family that employs a nanny full time for 50 hours like you suggest cant scrap together $2000 in 12 months???? Plus the alternative is paying for a tutor or GED classes, so lets say that came out to $1500 for the year... wouldn't it be better to just save $500 extra and give a proper raise?


$2080+$780= $2860 As far as I'm concerned, that's close to $3k.

That's $3k in addition to the nanny's current salary, health insurance, etc. OP said that they can't afford another raise, that's all that I need to know. I know many families who can barely afford to pay the nanny, but they make that choice because it's the best choice for their family.

GED classes are significantly less than $3k, which I said.


Why do you assume OPs nanny works 50 hours? And considering shes undocumented why do you think OP pays overtime, nanny wont know the difference. You are making a lot of assumptions to make your point, which is still wrong.


Most nannies full time nannies work 45-55 hours per week, so 50 is a valid assumption, but it was an example, used solely to illustrate the math.

Why are you assuming that the nanny isn't legally here? OP said she's from South America, but I didn't see anything that would make me assume that she's here illegally.

I always assume that people follow the law, until such time as they show me something to prove otherwise. So, I assume that employers want to do what is required legally (overtime, taxes, etc.) until they show me that they don't.

You are also making assumptions (no overtime, undocumented, nanny won't know that she's supposed to get overtime). Are you also wrong? We don't know. That's the point I was making. We don't know OP's situation.
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Post 02/06/2016 08:30     Subject: What to do? At the limit!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much. These are great ideas. I know she wants to get a GED and we can pay for a course and perhaps a bonus. I will talk to her and get her ideas. I want to be fair. She truly is a great person and nanny.


You truly cannot afford a $1.00 an hour raise? She has been with you for a long resredgiven you reliable and trusted childcare and you cannot give her a token raise. Cheap.


How do you know OP is cheap? You don't know what she is paying AND OP is paying health insurance. Most nannies dont get that. BTW, you do realize a $1/hr could amount to $2000 a month, depending on the hours, taxes, etc.


Not sure if you know this, but there aren't even 2000 hours in a month. There's not even 1000 lol.


Ok, I'm completely dumbfounded. 24 hours per day * 31 days= 744 hours. Even if the nanny were to make overtime every single hour of the month (not possible, of course), that would only be 1116.

Based on an average of 50 hours per week, a $1 raise per hour would require OP to pay $2080 extra for regular hours and $780 more in overtime pay for the year, it would also raise OP's employer taxes a very small amount. There are many families for whom almost $3K could be a large part of their discretionary spending, but I don't know whether OP is cheap or not, we simply don't have enough information to decide. We don't know how much the nanny is currently making, we don't know what else OP has in the budget. All we know is that OP said that their family can't afford it.

With that said, OP's nanny may be able to get help through a literacy center, or her hours may be such that she can't. If she can't, OP could pay for a class or one-on-one tutoring, but classes would be cheaper, and more within their budget. Tutoring is expensive, and would likely amount to more than the $1/hour raise.


First of all $2080 is not "almost 3k" it's just barely over 2k. And you think a family that employs a nanny full time for 50 hours like you suggest cant scrap together $2000 in 12 months???? Plus the alternative is paying for a tutor or GED classes, so lets say that came out to $1500 for the year... wouldn't it be better to just save $500 extra and give a proper raise?


$2080+$780= $2860 As far as I'm concerned, that's close to $3k.

That's $3k in addition to the nanny's current salary, health insurance, etc. OP said that they can't afford another raise, that's all that I need to know. I know many families who can barely afford to pay the nanny, but they make that choice because it's the best choice for their family.

GED classes are significantly less than $3k, which I said.


Why do you assume OPs nanny works 50 hours? And considering shes undocumented why do you think OP pays overtime, nanny wont know the difference. You are making a lot of assumptions to make your point, which is still wrong.