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Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

There is nothing wrong with teaching your child to study hard.
I think the anger toward this thread is the fact that OP is teaching her child that people "who didn't study" (trash collectors, nannies, landscapers, etc.) have less value than people who "studied hard" (lawyers, doctors).

It is also a very limited world view. You should study hard to gain knowledge. And working hard in a competitive or artistic field does not always get you the monetary reward.

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

There is nothing wrong with teaching your child to study hard.
I think the anger toward this thread is the fact that OP is teaching her child that people "who didn't study" (trash collectors, nannies, landscapers, etc.) have less value than people who "studied hard" (lawyers, doctors).

Anonymous wrote:OP's statement (or variation) is a common line I heard where I was raised.

Of course it is not 100% absolutely true, but you also teach you kids to be nice to everyone at the playground. You don't select people out because they are unlikely to be your friend.

Figure out what makes you happy and do that is important, but equally important is to teach your kids how to look out for themselves in the world, take care of themselves and be self sustaining so that they are not a burden to those around them.

I told my kids similar things too. I do not think it is materialistic nor the wrong message.

I disagree with your approach in that you are equating education with future (possible) salary. It is like telling a kid to practice tennis so that they one day make the pros rather than for the love of the game. Learning is a life long quest and should never be equated with money.

I want my children to be happy in their lives - if that means being the best third grade teacher on the planet (with extremely limited learning potential) but it is what makes them happy then that is what I want them to do.

I think a lot of us have very different values.

OP's statement (or variation) is a common line I heard where I was raised.

Of course it is not 100% absolutely true, but you also teach you kids to be nice to everyone at the playground. You don't select people out because they are unlikely to be your friend.

Figure out what makes you happy and do that is important, but equally important is to teach your kids how to look out for themselves in the world, take care of themselves and be self sustaining so that they are not a burden to those around them.

I told my kids similar things too. I do not think it is materialistic nor the wrong message.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

sometimes people work hard and are not rewarded.

So what... you shouldn't work hard because you may or may not be rewarded?

Such nonsense. The converse of a statement is not always true! Of course you teach everyone to work hard for self-satisfaction, participation in team work, learning, -- it simply doesn't always equate to money.

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

Because the basic premise is incorrect. You study hard to learn.

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Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

sometimes people work hard and are not rewarded.

So what... you shouldn't work hard because you may or may not be rewarded?

Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

sometimes people work hard and are not rewarded.

What is so wrong with telling your child that they have to study hard? I mean, it is a bit simplified but I'm assuming this is a younger child. I think this is pretty much a universal lesson for everyone--work hard and you will be rewarded.

Anonymous wrote:I was walking with my son this morning and a garbage truck drove by. He said "What's that smell?" I told him it's the garbage truck. I said "If you don't learn your ABCs and reading, you will get a job as a garbage truck and get just a little bit of money. If you study hard, you can have a big desk next to the big window in a tall building like daddy where everything is clean and make lots of money."

Nannies, if you don't like your MBs or what you are getting paid as nannies, go get yourself an education and do something else. You go out and get that job that MBs have that pays $100k. Then you can go out and hire a nanny and pay whatever you think they deserve.

1) As a person you are the scourge of the future generation. Rather, you are raising the scourge of the future generation. There is nothing wrong with being a garbage man and learning your ABCs and reading will not prevent your son from being a garbage man. Your attitude though will definitely prevent your son from developing into the type of person who has compassion, tolerance, and respect for other human beings.

2) You clearly don't understand the American or international economy. Studying hard does not equate to " a big desk near a big window". I am not against studying hard nor education in any way shape or form, but for your child's sake, please educate yourself on the reality of our educational and economic system.

3) Don't teach your child that money is sacrosanct.

4) Many nannies have education. Many nannies have education beyond MB's who make "100k a year". You know why? Because generally, nannies are the type of people who go into careers that help others, whether that is with children, social work, etc. Because of the way our society values time and power, these jobs are not typically well paid. Many MB's - the types of people who more readily hire nannies to care for their children 50-60 hours a week than do so themselves - are in careers that pay more and demand a lot of time, hence the necessity for a nanny.

Please note I am not judging nanny or MB for their choices or anyone else's for that matter. Just saying your logic is a bit circular as well as very rude and uninformed. In addition, most nannies I know, including myself, wouldn't hire a nanny because we see how much parents miss when doing so, in addition to really being able to see the true financial value of staying home with your child when you can.

Well said, 13:19.

OP, I really hope you are a troll and not a mother because I simply can't imagine a real mother saying something so obnoxious and snobby to their child about any worker and then manage to draw an insulting comparison to nannies....on a nanny board.

If you are for real and that stupid to bring your nonsense here, then you seriously lack in intelligence, critical thinking, and empathy.

Go away.

Anonymous wrote:Nurses, firefighters and teachers generally also agree that they should be paid more than they do get paid. This is not strictly a nanny issue.


And to the OP with the truly ridiculous opening statement: How many people with excellent degrees from excellent universities cannot find decent jobs in their field today? You are selling your son a outdated model of success. Not to mention a very sad view of happiness.

+ 1,000,000 Why put this all on nannies alone?

Nurses, firefighters and teachers generally also agree that they should be paid more than they do get paid. This is not strictly a nanny issue.


And to the OP with the truly ridiculous opening statement: How many people with excellent degrees from excellent universities cannot find decent jobs in their field today? You are selling your son a outdated model of success. Not to mention a very sad view of happiness.

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Anonymous wrote:Shut the hell up. There wouldn't be such high demand for nannies if you old women didn't rely on nannies to raise your children. A bunch of you moms are nothing but dead beat egg donors. Spit them out and you're done with them. F.Y.I - Children are humans, not an accessory. Get a clue and appreciate the people who are raising your children.

Are you telling me to shut up?

I make more than my husband and yes, I make way more than $6 figures.

To what you said, OK. You keep living your life your way.

I'm an MB, not a nanny. 100k isn't much, sweetie. I make $200k + and my DH makes 600k +. We have a combined met worth of $8 million. We have a PT nanny and pay her $23 per hour, health insurance, gym membership, and a car. Pay your nanny well. They are clearly the one raising your children.

Given your income shouldn't you be paying your nanny better. Funny how you comment about the combined net worth.. it is mostly your husbands. Maybe you should try raising your own kids too.

EXACTLY my frustration with nannies on this board. They want to be paid a part of the income for doing 80% manual labor and having a high school education in some cases and call it "fair pay." If they are working for Warrant Buffet, they'd want $2m a year for doing the same work and call it fair. It is just ridiculous.