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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Spike in flu this year because those who got the vaccine aren't protected.

Better luck next year!

Yes. If you get the flu vaccine you may still get a different strain of the flu. This is not news. If you get the flu vaccine you will NOT get that particular flu. If you do not get the flu vaccine you MAY get that particular strain of flu.

I'll take a "not" over a "maybe" any day.

Except getting the flu shot weakens your immune system temporarily, leaving you more susceptible to infections during that time. Many people contract colds, flus, and pneumonias during that window, leading to stories of the shot causing the flu. Personally, I'd rather risk the flu than get the shot; your risk-assessment may vary?

You are forgetting though, that in the case of nannies and others who are mandated to get the vaccine (usually those working around individuals with compromised immune systems) it is not about protecting the employee, it is about protecting the person who could not fight off the flu as effectively as someone with a fully functioning immune system can.

So yes, you might feel comfortable taking the risk of getting the flu and fighting it off easily. Your 6 month old charge does not have the same advantage and should, rightfully, be protected from the virus that you may potentially carry.

Nannies are "mandated" to get to flu vaccine? By whom? You? I don't think so, but thanks anyway.

Oh goodness, there's that old reading comprehension issue again.
"Nannies and others who are mandated" does not imply the two are the same, nor that nannies are mandated. I just used them in the same sentence to reference a category of employees for whom the flu vaccine is necessary. People will twist whatever they can on these boards to make their asinine points valid, won't they?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spike in flu this year because those who got the vaccine aren't protected.

Better luck next year!

Yes. If you get the flu vaccine you may still get a different strain of the flu. This is not news. If you get the flu vaccine you will NOT get that particular flu. If you do not get the flu vaccine you MAY get that particular strain of flu.

I'll take a "not" over a "maybe" any day.

Except getting the flu shot weakens your immune system temporarily, leaving you more susceptible to infections during that time. Many people contract colds, flus, and pneumonias during that window, leading to stories of the shot causing the flu. Personally, I'd rather risk the flu than get the shot; your risk-assessment may vary?

You are forgetting though, that in the case of nannies and others who are mandated to get the vaccine (usually those working around individuals with compromised immune systems) it is not about protecting the employee, it is about protecting the person who could not fight off the flu as effectively as someone with a fully functioning immune system can.

So yes, you might feel comfortable taking the risk of getting the flu and fighting it off easily. Your 6 month old charge does not have the same advantage and should, rightfully, be protected from the virus that you may potentially carry.

Nannies are "mandated" to get to flu vaccine? By whom? You? I don't think so, but thanks anyway.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spike in flu this year because those who got the vaccine aren't protected.

Better luck next year!

Yes. If you get the flu vaccine you may still get a different strain of the flu. This is not news. If you get the flu vaccine you will NOT get that particular flu. If you do not get the flu vaccine you MAY get that particular strain of flu.

I'll take a "not" over a "maybe" any day.

Except getting the flu shot weakens your immune system temporarily, leaving you more susceptible to infections during that time. Many people contract colds, flus, and pneumonias during that window, leading to stories of the shot causing the flu. Personally, I'd rather risk the flu than get the shot; your risk-assessment may vary?

You are forgetting though, that in the case of nannies and others who are mandated to get the vaccine (usually those working around individuals with compromised immune systems) it is not about protecting the employee, it is about protecting the person who could not fight off the flu as effectively as someone with a fully functioning immune system can.

So yes, you might feel comfortable taking the risk of getting the flu and fighting it off easily. Your 6 month old charge does not have the same advantage and should, rightfully, be protected from the virus that you may potentially carry.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spike in flu this year because those who got the vaccine aren't protected.

Better luck next year!

Yes. If you get the flu vaccine you may still get a different strain of the flu. This is not news. If you get the flu vaccine you will NOT get that particular flu. If you do not get the flu vaccine you MAY get that particular strain of flu.

I'll take a "not" over a "maybe" any day.

Except getting the flu shot weakens your immune system temporarily, leaving you more susceptible to infections during that time. Many people contract colds, flus, and pneumonias during that window, leading to stories of the shot causing the flu. Personally, I'd rather risk the flu than get the shot; your risk-assessment may vary?

Anonymous wrote:Spike in flu this year because those who got the vaccine aren't protected.

Better luck next year!

Yes. If you get the flu vaccine you may still get a different strain of the flu. This is not news. If you get the flu vaccine you will NOT get that particular flu. If you do not get the flu vaccine you MAY get that particular strain of flu.

I'll take a "not" over a "maybe" any day.

Spike in flu this year because those who got the vaccine aren't protected.

Better luck next year!

Yes, all antivaxx people are ignorant.


Then I could just as easily say that all pro vaccine people are ignorant and stupid.


The reality is that while rare, extreme and fatal reactions do happen to vaccinations. If your child, niece/nephew, friend's child, etc are that 1 in a million that have that type of reaction, then the risks become very real to you.

My point is being rude and judgemental doesn't help. Maybe try understanding where someone is coming from before calling them ignorant and stupid.

Sure, you could say that but you would be wrong. But that isn't your issue. You know, as well as I do, that vaccines are necessary and safe.

You have some fixation on the one in a million children that may or may have not had a reaction that may or may or not had something to do vaccines.

Please, stop spreading the stupid. Yes, antivaxxer, your are stupid. This is not some open forum to discuss seriously controversial beliefs. You people are straight up ignorant.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, all antivaxx people are ignorant.

Then I could just as easily say that all pro vaccine people are ignorant and stupid.


The reality is that while rare, extreme and fatal reactions do happen to vaccinations. If your child, niece/nephew, friend's child, etc are that 1 in a million that have that type of reaction, then the risks become very real to you.

My point is being rude and judgemental doesn't help. Maybe try understanding where someone is coming from before calling them ignorant and stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I would never ask another person to get vaccines. Huge boundary overstep.

+1000

If an MB ever asked me to get a vaccine I would RUN RUN RUN

Dumb as rocks

Yes, all antivaxx people are ignorant.

Not all antivaxx people are ignorant and/or stupid. I hate when people just assume and make judgements. Some people do have bad and even fatal reactions to vaccinations. There is a reason that the government has a fund that pays millions of dollars a year to people who have been injured by vaccinations.

I myself have been vaccinated a lot due to extenstive travel outside of the US and absolutely believe in them for myself. However, we almost lost my first born niece to a reaction to a vaccination at 15 months old. Thankfully she is okay now, but when something like that happens in your family it makes you more hesitant to just go blindly along with the reccomended schedule. All of my nieces and nephews are vaccinated now, but my Sisters in Law chose to follow the alternative schedule after that incident.

As it turns out, they got it wrong with the flu vaccine this year. It's always somewhat of a crapshoot. They guessed the wrong strain this year. But they said to still get it, because it "might" help somewhat.

It's clear, PP, that your "extensive education" failed you if you seriously don't understand the importance of vaccines.

Many of us scientifically minded people have done the research and know how ignorant the antivaxx people really are.

The fact that you would "side eye" to a hospital requiring vaccines speaks to how ignorant you are.

Hepatitis and TB vaccines?

I'm not anti-vaccine, but I am a vaccine-skeptic and I wonder that so many scientifically-minded people are not.

I mean, when the CDC says the flu shot was only "partially" effective this year do you actually believe them? You don't think the truth is the flu shot was useless this year but they don't want to say that because they want everyone to get it next year? That seems so much more likely to me and fits in with what we know about government, misinformation, and the flu/vaccines. And if that's the case, that the cdc will happily lie to ensure future conformity...what else are they not actually positive of but talk boldly about so people will submit to treatments or shots?

I am fully vaccinated, and when I traveled in SE Asia I received extra vaccines, but I will never get a flu shot and I will run from and side-eye anyone who mandates any vaccines (including hospitals and the military). I believe that is wrong and my extensive education lends me confidence in that opinion.