Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 15:03     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

We are expecting a new baby in Feb, so this time I am requiring Tdap and flu (and yes, the rest of the family will get flu, too. I'm the only one who has to get Tdap again). We do pay for health insurance, but since that hasn't started yet, we will pay for the vaccines out of pocket.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 13:17     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not angry at all, 20:37, and perfectly happy, thanks for asking. I'm also very well educated on vaccines and will cheerfully call out the ignorant every chance I get because that's what needs to be done to facilitate a healthy population.

The fact that you have a problem with that questions your life choices far more than mine.



I don't always like what I read online but I also don't have any emotional attachment to other peoples opinions. Your standard for whether someone is ignorant is whether they agree with you. Rather then accepting that your opinions are both personal and fallible you seem bent on attacking everyone who has a different perspective with judgement and snobbery. If you are well educated then it should be enough to let the facts stand on their on. You have not shared any facts, only indignant and baseless judgements about other peoples intellectual capacity because they dare disagree with you. PP, re-evaluate your life. Something is not right, but this is not the place to work that out.



NP here who strongly agrees with PP you are arguing with. I'm not an angry person and have no problems in my life but I DO get emotional about issues that are affecting innocent babies. The question is, why doesn't that upset you? Innocent babies die from whooping cough because a group of uneducated people have decided vaccines are worse than the actual disease. Why aren't you angry for the babies who dies from whooping cough. Just because you don't know them does that make it ok? The reason no one is posting actual links to information is because the true legitimate scientific research is published in journals that you won't find simply by googling the topic. A blog from random parents discussing their beliefs about vaccines is not research. True scientific research involves going to the library and doing searches of actual medics journals. Or at the very list paying for the online subscription.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 11:56     Subject: Re:Nanny vaccinations

Not angry at all, 20:37, and perfectly happy, thanks for asking. I'm also very well educated on vaccines and will cheerfully call out the ignorant every chance I get because that's what needs to be done to facilitate a healthy population.

The fact that you have a problem with that questions your life choices far more than mine.



I don't always like what I read online but I also don't have any emotional attachment to other peoples opinions. Your standard for whether someone is ignorant is whether they agree with you. Rather then accepting that your opinions are both personal and fallible you seem bent on attacking everyone who has a different perspective with judgement and snobbery. If you are well educated then it should be enough to let the facts stand on their on. You have not shared any facts, only indignant and baseless judgements about other peoples intellectual capacity because they dare disagree with you. PP, re-evaluate your life. Something is not right, but this is not the place to work that out.


You appear confused, PP. I have only posted twice on this thread and have been very clear about which posts are mine. There are other posters who understand the importance of science and the difference between being educated about a topic and being ignorant and have disagreed with you and others who don't understand how vaccines work. You're making a lot of assumptions of me that are simply untrue. It is you who needs to reevaluate your life and your reasons for being so judgmental when you are so obviously mistaken.

You also don't seem to understand the difference between fact and opinion, but it's not my job to educate you. It is, however, my pleasure to encourage others not to listen to your nonsense.

Since I know already you will want the last word, I'm not going to bother to respond to you again.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 09:14     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:Not angry at all, 20:37, and perfectly happy, thanks for asking. I'm also very well educated on vaccines and will cheerfully call out the ignorant every chance I get because that's what needs to be done to facilitate a healthy population.

The fact that you have a problem with that questions your life choices far more than mine.



I don't always like what I read online but I also don't have any emotional attachment to other peoples opinions. Your standard for whether someone is ignorant is whether they agree with you. Rather then accepting that your opinions are both personal and fallible you seem bent on attacking everyone who has a different perspective with judgement and snobbery. If you are well educated then it should be enough to let the facts stand on their on. You have not shared any facts, only indignant and baseless judgements about other peoples intellectual capacity because they dare disagree with you. PP, re-evaluate your life. Something is not right, but this is not the place to work that out.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 00:40     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Not angry at all, 20:37, and perfectly happy, thanks for asking. I'm also very well educated on vaccines and will cheerfully call out the ignorant every chance I get because that's what needs to be done to facilitate a healthy population.

The fact that you have a problem with that questions your life choices far more than mine.

Anonymous
Post 10/05/2014 21:13     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

flu shot
hepatitis
flu shot
tb
flu shot
cpr
TDAP

parents pay for this they are expensive!!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2014 20:37     Subject: Re:Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:
I never said I had the flu. I said I got sick...EVERY SINGLE YEAR I HAD THE SHOT and didn't get sick the years I didn't get the shot. I think it's more than coincidence. I may not have gotten the flu, or maybe I did. Don't know. I but I did get pneumonia every year with the shot. Weird, but if avoiding the shot keeps me healthier, then I'll avoid the shot. It's not rocket science.


It's also not a vaccine giving you pneumonia every year. PP is correct. You don't understand how vaccines work and hopefully readers will ignore your alleged experience.

It's the anti vaccine people who are causing the measles outbreaks all over the country. Their ignorance isn't some kind of choice. It's dangerous and foolish and there is no need for ignorant nannies to add to their fire.


Both angry and personal, yikes. What is going on in your life that you are trying to vent through this forum? You don't sound like a very happy person.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2014 12:20     Subject: Re:Nanny vaccinations

I never said I had the flu. I said I got sick...EVERY SINGLE YEAR I HAD THE SHOT and didn't get sick the years I didn't get the shot. I think it's more than coincidence. I may not have gotten the flu, or maybe I did. Don't know. I but I did get pneumonia every year with the shot. Weird, but if avoiding the shot keeps me healthier, then I'll avoid the shot. It's not rocket science.


It's also not a vaccine giving you pneumonia every year. PP is correct. You don't understand how vaccines work and hopefully readers will ignore your alleged experience.

It's the anti vaccine people who are causing the measles outbreaks all over the country. Their ignorance isn't some kind of choice. It's dangerous and foolish and there is no need for ignorant nannies to add to their fire.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2014 11:17     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and have never been required to have a vaccination. I voluntarily got the tdap two years ago (and was really miserable for a few days after, got all the side effects) but I will not get the flu shot. Every year I've gotten it, I've been horribly sick ALL winter. The years I don't get it, I get a cold or two and that's it. It's happened enough I'm comfortable with my decision not to get vaccinated against the flu.


A cold is not the flu. Being "horribly sick" is not the flu unless you were testing and the culture came back positive. It is simply coincidence.
I never said I had the flu. I said I got sick...EVERY SINGLE YEAR I HAD THE SHOT and didn't get sick the years I didn't get the shot. I think it's more than coincidence. I may not have gotten the flu, or maybe I did. Don't know. I but I did get pneumonia every year with the shot. Weird, but if avoiding the shot keeps me healthier, then I'll avoid the shot. It's not rocket science.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2014 03:33     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and have never been required to have a vaccination. I voluntarily got the tdap two years ago (and was really miserable for a few days after, got all the side effects) but I will not get the flu shot. Every year I've gotten it, I've been horribly sick ALL winter. The years I don't get it, I get a cold or two and that's it. It's happened enough I'm comfortable with my decision not to get vaccinated against the flu.


A cold is not the flu. Being "horribly sick" is not the flu unless you were testing and the culture came back positive. It is simply coincidence.



The vaccine actually impairs your immune system for three to six weeks after. So, your body is more vulnerable to infection. Most people get the shot in the fall when colds and flu are most frequently spread. So PP probably contracted a virus her system would normally be healthy enough to fight.


Source please.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2014 08:26     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and have never been required to have a vaccination. I voluntarily got the tdap two years ago (and was really miserable for a few days after, got all the side effects) but I will not get the flu shot. Every year I've gotten it, I've been horribly sick ALL winter. The years I don't get it, I get a cold or two and that's it. It's happened enough I'm comfortable with my decision not to get vaccinated against the flu.


A cold is not the flu. Being "horribly sick" is not the flu unless you were testing and the culture came back positive. It is simply coincidence.



The vaccine actually impairs your immune system for three to six weeks after. So, your body is more vulnerable to infection. Most people get the shot in the fall when colds and flu are most frequently spread. So PP probably contracted a virus her system would normally be healthy enough to fight.


That's not at all how vaccines work. At all. Read some actual scientific literature about vaccines (not random blogs you google).
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2014 02:11     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and have never been required to have a vaccination. I voluntarily got the tdap two years ago (and was really miserable for a few days after, got all the side effects) but I will not get the flu shot. Every year I've gotten it, I've been horribly sick ALL winter. The years I don't get it, I get a cold or two and that's it. It's happened enough I'm comfortable with my decision not to get vaccinated against the flu.


A cold is not the flu. Being "horribly sick" is not the flu unless you were testing and the culture came back positive. It is simply coincidence.



The vaccine actually impairs your immune system for three to six weeks after. So, your body is more vulnerable to infection. Most people get the shot in the fall when colds and flu are most frequently spread. So PP probably contracted a virus her system would normally be healthy enough to fight.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2014 18:54     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nanny and have never been required to have a vaccination. I voluntarily got the tdap two years ago (and was really miserable for a few days after, got all the side effects) but I will not get the flu shot. Every year I've gotten it, I've been horribly sick ALL winter. The years I don't get it, I get a cold or two and that's it. It's happened enough I'm comfortable with my decision not to get vaccinated against the flu.


A cold is not the flu. Being "horribly sick" is not the flu unless you were testing and the culture came back positive. It is simply coincidence.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2014 16:14     Subject: Re:Nanny vaccinations

My employer offered to pay for vacs but did not require I get any. They also paid for my CPR course.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2014 14:31     Subject: Nanny vaccinations

Anonymous wrote:I don't pay for vaccinations. They are minimal requirements for the job, like CPR certification. If a nanny doesn't have the required vaccinations, don't apply for the job.

I have never interviewed a candidate who didn't already have her vaccinations and certifications in line before the interview. That's one of the measures of a professional.

I've been a nanny for 15 years. I've never been asked to have any vaccinations.