You need to adjust her hours to 6:15 and pay her accordingly. Be prepared for her to hand you your baby and go.

Yes I would not be a happy nanny! My boss's are always on time and I show them the same respect When showing up in the mornings. Letting her off a couple Hours early once every 3 months is rudiculous as far as comparing.

We are usually home by 6 but 20% of the time traffic is bad so we get home at 6:10. We just guarantee our nanny payment through 6:15 each day. Yes, she leaves a little early most days. But she is happy and it is a small sacrifice.

*What you're doing now is incredibly disrespectful

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Yeah OP, I don't control the traffic either and yet I manage to be on time 99% of my life. If the traffic is so bad and so unpredictable that you can't, you should be paying her to stay until 6:30 every day and you'll never worry about being late. What you're doing now I since didn't disrespectful of your nanny and her time.

As a nanny it definitely bugs me when parents are late. The families I work for always pay me until 6 PM even though I usually only work until 5:30-5:45 because they are putting in that buffer to allow them to be late. That way, I'm not in a huff when they do come home at 6. I also expect a call or text saying my boss might be late coming home. It's just common courtesy, and I'm not surprised that your nanny leaves upset.

I love my job, but working full time as a nanny typically means working from 8-6 to allow time for a commute, and then on top of that there is the trip to and from work. Sorry, but I want to get out at 6, so that I can make dinner and relax with my family.

I worked for a woman this past summer who was chronically late. To me, 5 minutes isn't the end of the world, but 10-15 minutes is really venturing into the territory where you are interrupting her life outside of her job. I told the woman I worked for that I needed to leave by 1:45 for a doctor's appointment, and she didn't get back until 2. That meant that I just barely made it to my appt, but it's all fine and dandy because she got to stop for groceries on the way home!

Anonymous wrote:Not a troll. Our nanny has been with us for over four years and aside from this it's a great relationship so obviously something is working. I did not say I'm 15 minutes late everyday nor did I say I never acknowledge it. I don't expect a long convo on the days I get back late nor any other day really, I just don't think it's fair that she's heaving a big sigh and handing me the baby the second I walk in the door at 6:03. My husband and I each commute an hour plus to work and we can't always control the traffic and we do our damnedest to get home by 6. If it's a total of twenty min extra per week should we be docking her pay when we let her leave early? I don't have a problem paying her extra but why should it work in her favor both ways? I was on maternity leave for three months earlier in the year and she was going home two to three hours early everyday but she still got paid for the hours not worked. Snow days don't count as vacation days. That doesn't make up for five or ten or even fifteen minutes (rarer occurrence) a few times a week? I'm not trying to be a troll or clueless. The whole reason we got a nanny was for the flexibility

Wait, you want to walk in late, and have her greet you with a smile while she continues to play with your baby (a child she clearly wasn't caring for when she started 4 years ago).

My nanny can't control traffic either. Yet, I expect her to arrive on time each morning and when she's more than 10minutes late and it has happened more than a couple times in the past month, we sit down and revisit the conversation about timeliness.

And you are now admitting you are late a few times a week? A few is 3? That's more often than not?

I would quit if I was your nanny.

I just don't treat my nanny that way and my boss doesn't treat me that way either.

A weekly pay is a pay check for the max number of hours worked.

Your job is to get home on time. You can then decide if she stays when you arrive early to give you an extra hand (fine option) or if you want to give her a break. But you can't decide your contractual hours don't matter because you've let her go early here or there.

You sound as if you don't respect other people or their time OP.

Anonymous wrote:OP here -- not trying to be disrespectful. The times we have let her go early though have been early by a few hours and we've always been flexible if she needs to go to the occasional drs appt etc. she doesn't get paid by the minute, no. She is salaried and we don't dock her for snow days either. It all evens out in the end. Is five to fifteen minutes really enough to warrant a curt attitude? She would just spend those extra minutes in rush hour anyways

Yes, 5 minutes is enough for her to have her things ready and be able to walk out as you walk in. 15 minutes and she should be getting paid for an overtime hour.

When our nanny is 15 minutes late, I'm truly annoyed. It messes with our day.

When I get home close to her leaving time, we often end up chatting past when she should be leaving, so I usually try to offer her an extra hour free the one morning I work from home.

Treat her time like you expect her to treat your time, or pay her more, or don't expect a happy nanny.

PS If you get home 15 minutes late and want her to chat with you about the kids day, you're expecting her to work 30 or more minutes extra. For free. That's simply unacceptable.

OP, guaranteed hours mean that you pay nanny to reserve her time for you from M - F 7am - 6 pm.

If YOU choose to let her go home early, that is not something she should be penalized for when you run late.

And you need to figure out her hourly rate and her OT rate, since nannies are not legally able to be salaried.

Once you figure out her OT rate, see if PAYING her for an extra hour of OT every time you are even 1 minute late improves one of 2 things:

**Her mood when you show up late

or

** Your ability to get home on time or even <gasp!> early

One nannies can't legally be salaried. Two guaranteed hours means you pay her regardless of need up to a certain amount including time and a half after 40 hours, if your early or don't need her she still gets paid but she still is required to be paid when your late unless your contract states that if you arrive early and she's done you will bank those hours for the days your late. You need to pay her when you're late or change her end time and adjust her pay.

Anonymous wrote:My nanny's hours are 7AM-6PM M-F. They are guaranteed hours, so whenever we are home early we let her leave without docking her pay. Admittedly, that is not often (maybe once every two or three months?). I usually get home between 6:05 and 6:15 each night and some nights my nanny seems annoyed. Yes, I know I'm late, but isn't it part of the nanny's duty to be flexible? She is not outright rude when I get home but is curt with her answers when I ask about their day and edges towards the door. Who (if anybody) is in the wrong here?

Be courteous and let her know if you'll be a little late. Also pay her for it. If I was consistently 15 minutes late I'd pay her a few hours worth of $. You are in the wrong by the way if you do this consistently. I got annoyed with our nanny for being 5-10 minutes late for work and had to speak with her about it -- goes both ways. You can ask her if she minds and come to an understanding/agreement regarding it -- but just ignoring it and continually being late is disrespectful.

OP, you are stupid. I hope your boss will keep you at work extra 15 min each day! Nanny here

MB here, who has had a similar issue in the past. However, our nanny worked shorter hours (8 hour day) and the babies had long naps. At 4:00 she would have her coat on and on the rare occasions we weren't able to let her go immediately at 4:00 she got huffy. Being a MB was new to me and there were lots of things that I hadn't realised I should work out in advance.

However, this person has been working for you for quite a while, it seems odd this is just coming up now. You do seem a bit disrespectful of her time given the long days she works, assuming this is not something that you and she have agreed is an ok arrangement. We recently gave our nanny two paid days off while we hade relatives visiting and she has offered to do some extra hours at other times but we won't try to claw back every single minute and she knows this. At the same time when we hired her we let her know that some times she would not be able to finish at a precise time, that was just the nature of our jobs and hence our nanny's job, and anyone who works for us needs to have that flexibility. We pay for the extra time in 15 minute increments. We ask our nanny to log it and submit it at the end of every pay period. She quite often doesn't charge us for it, presumably because she appreciates the number of times we let her go early and give her other PTO.

If you need the flexibility, you need to talk to her. Apologise for not bringing it up before and see if there is some way to work it out so that neither one of you feels hard done by.

You are. This one is a no-brainer.

After an 11-hour day OP, trust me, even fifteen minutes is a huge deal when you want to go home.

Be courteous and arrive on time. Her time is just as valuable as hers.

It's all about principle here really. I would be annoyed if my bosses did this. When they have done this, they a). Have always texted me to let me know so I had advance notice and b). Always rounded up my pay to either the half hour or the hour which I am assuming you are doing as well, right?

Nanny in LA- I never know when the parents come home or when I'll be staying late to babysit. Even when they know weeks in advance they never tell me, it's annoying but they pay me hourly well above market rate so I don't care.