Anonymous
Post 07/05/2014 00:59     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow. Woman to woman.


What does that even mean?

It means:
Why would one woman want to screw another woman?
"Oh yeah, she's just the help.
They don't deserve EQUAL RIGHTS."


Why do you use the term "the help"? How demeaning!
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 23:31     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow. Woman to woman.


What does that even mean?

It means:
Why would one woman want to screw another woman?
"Oh yeah, she's just the help.
They don't deserve EQUAL RIGHTS."
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 22:49     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just wow. Woman to woman.


What does that even mean?
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 19:16     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Wow. Just wow. Woman to woman.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 19:05     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP Here - I should add that the letter I received stated that I have to attend a call with Nanny and the employment commission in about a week so they can get both sides of the story or whatever. So I suppose I will find out what's going to happen then but I'm wondering if anyone else has gone through this and how it turned out.

TIA.


I think that you're trolling. This is not how unemployment works, unless you are fighting her claim.


Of course I'm fighting her claim, her claim is BS!


I've done these calls OP. Write out your points and your proof in order of importance. Read your letter they sent thoroughly - it may say to fax or email any documents you want to submit as evidence by a certain date. Don't blow that deadline.


thank you for the advise. What type of evidence do you think would help? I think all I have is an email that I sent to an neighbor asking her if she'd be interested in a nanny share with this person to try and help her get the hours she wanted. Do you think that would help prove that I a) did offer her a job after she had her baby and b) she turned it down because she wanted more than I could offer.

Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 19:02     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:God knows an "unearned" paid maternity leave would be the worst thing ever.

Seriously OP, if she's playing the system she won't get anything (rightfully), but what is your deal with resenting the very IDEA a woman in America gets a paid maternity leave she didn't "pay into"? You sound unhinged.


way to jump to a conclusion about how I feel regarding paid maternity leave. Judge much? For your information, I think there should be paid maternity leave. What I don't believe in is trying to scam another system that was put in place for a completely different purpose to get paid maternity leave. See the difference? And that was the premise of my question to begin with - is she scamming the system or is the system that stupid that she will get away with it.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 18:58     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??



You took money from her salary that she earned to pay for uif.
she did not quit to have a baby. She had it while being employed. Now she needs full time employment, and if you are not able to provide that, she is unemployed
this is not paid maternity leave. Maternity leave is when you come back to your place of employment after baby.
the baby is here already.
look the rules with dept of labor. It is their system


Wrong. I did not take money out of her check for anything. In fact, I paid all her payroll taxes, (my side and hers so that's 15%) as part of our tax return. I paid the unemployment insurance separately as well. Trust me, she was paid generously. And for your information, the baby is not here yet. She quit (by telling me she would not be coming back as she had previously told me) before her leave of absence even started. So in essence, she is trying to get paid maternity leave because for your information, the letter from the state said she wanted to start her benefits effective her quit date, not the baby's birthday or after her doctor says she's ready to return to work. I don't know why you (and several others on this thread) feel the need to jump to all your conclusions without having the facts or even bothering to read the full context of my post.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 18:37     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anyone know of employer tax evasion cases, and exactly what the outcome was? For the employer? For the nanny/victim?
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 18:35     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:Unemployment Insurance is not deducted from the employee's paycheck. The employer pays it directly to the state and federal government, just as the employer does with the employer's portion of social security and medicare.

PP, is your employer deducting UI from your paycheck? That is not supposed to happen ...

It is possible that in some states you might be paying into state disability insurance, which can be used for maternity leave, but that is something different from unemployment insurance.

Thank you for posting that.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 18:32     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Unemployment Insurance is not deducted from the employee's paycheck. The employer pays it directly to the state and federal government, just as the employer does with the employer's portion of social security and medicare.

PP, is your employer deducting UI from your paycheck? That is not supposed to happen ...

It is possible that in some states you might be paying into state disability insurance, which can be used for maternity leave, but that is something different from unemployment insurance.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 17:34     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No unemployment eligibility if you are not paid on the books, but consequences equally bad for nanny in that case anyway (unreported income/unpaid taxes) so presumably she wouldn't have filed a claim if this wasn't on the books.

No, I don't think the consequences are equally bad for a poor nanny for earns a tiny fraction of most employers here.
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Actually, in many cases, they can be quite a bit worse. The employer will owe about 15% of the nanny's salary in back taxes. The nanny will owe all of her income tax. If she is paid well below market or works very few hours, that could come out to an effective rate of less than 15%, but, if she's earning average rates or better, or has a spouse also earning money, it's much more likely to be worse. Even if the amounts are equal, the nanny, earning less, is going to have a much harder time paying this back than the family. If this is going on for years, with penalties and interest, a nanny could easily owe 50% or more of a year's worth of salary in taxes and penalties. (Penalties and interest can quickly double and triple the tax bill....cheating on your taxes for either party is not a smart thing to do)

Funny that we only hear about scamming employers of domestic workers, never about the workers themselves. Everyone knows who who the victim is, not to mention the American public.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 17:01     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No unemployment eligibility if you are not paid on the books, but consequences equally bad for nanny in that case anyway (unreported income/unpaid taxes) so presumably she wouldn't have filed a claim if this wasn't on the books.

No, I don't think the consequences are equally bad for a poor nanny for earns a tiny fraction of most employers here.
]

Actually, in many cases, they can be quite a bit worse. The employer will owe about 15% of the nanny's salary in back taxes. The nanny will owe all of her income tax. If she is paid well below market or works very few hours, that could come out to an effective rate of less than 15%, but, if she's earning average rates or better, or has a spouse also earning money, it's much more likely to be worse. Even if the amounts are equal, the nanny, earning less, is going to have a much harder time paying this back than the family. If this is going on for years, with penalties and interest, a nanny could easily owe 50% or more of a year's worth of salary in taxes and penalties. (Penalties and interest can quickly double and triple the tax bill....cheating on your taxes for either party is not a smart thing to do)
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 16:45     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No unemployment eligibility if you are not paid on the books, but consequences equally bad for nanny in that case anyway (unreported income/unpaid taxes) so presumably she wouldn't have filed a claim if this wasn't on the books.

No, I don't think the consequences are equally bad for a poor nanny for earns a tiny fraction of most employers here.

who earns, not for
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 16:44     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:No unemployment eligibility if you are not paid on the books, but consequences equally bad for nanny in that case anyway (unreported income/unpaid taxes) so presumably she wouldn't have filed a claim if this wasn't on the books.

No, I don't think the consequences are equally bad for a poor nanny for earns a tiny fraction of most employers here.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2014 15:46     Subject: Nanny Quit to have a baby and now trying to claim Unemployment Benefits??
Anonymous wrote:What happens to OP if she wasn't paying Nanny on the books?

Then the nanny must pay the back taxes, but that will most likely not be a lot.
The employer must also pay everything they were supposed to pay.