To 19:01- I guess you didn't read the OP's entire posts-she was left to do everything including the delousing of more than one child's head as well as disinfecting the house and all that that entails. I'm glad you had such a positive experience with lice but as a nanny and preschool teacher mine have not been as encouraging. The worst was several years back when one child who's parents had done everything recommended kept getting reinfected because another child's parents continued to send their child to school without properly addressing the situation. Being a nanny is a job and of course that comes with responsibilities but those responsibilities do not go to the ends of the Earth. Choosing to be a parent is much different-those responsibilities go far beyond and there is only so much you can outsource and throw money at. Again, OP's employers
were incredibly selfish and disrespectful in how they handled this situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Lice isn't an illness. It's not highly contagious. It's annoying and takes some work to eradicate. But let's stop with the hyperbole.

By the time your average kid is diagnosed, they have had the lice for two weeks. So the odds of your catching it in the period of time between being diagnosed and using the shampoo to kill live lice is pretty much zero. The AAP doesnt even recommend sending kids home from school.

I'm a pediatrician. I've diagnosed lice. My 15 year old had lice twice in elementary school. My husband and I never caught lice. We did the shampooing and combing, but our younger daughters nanny didn't get lice either.

/if/ the parents knew the night before, they should have at least done the initial shampoo. (The OP still hasn't clarified the timeline) but, seriously, this is not bubonic plague or even strep throat. It's a minor annoyance.

What OP's family did is disgraceful and I wouldn't blame her if she quit on the spot. I'm also having a hard time believing you are a pediatrician. So let me ask you this-if you stand by your original statement, am I correct in assuming you would have no problem with another parent showing up at your house for a playdate with their child's head full of lice without telling you first. Can I also assume that you would have no problem with another parent sending their child to school with your child with full knowledge that they have lice? Please answer with explanation.

Im not sure why you doubt I'm a pediatrician, since my views are pretty much exactly those of the most recent AAP policy statement, found here:
(except for the fact that this paper estimates the average child has had lice for a full month before diagnosis)

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/126/2/392.full?sid=e0db2bd1-55fd-4e64-af14-61cb3ba42684

I said in my first post, I'd expect the parents to do a shampoo treatment the first afternoon after diagnosis. I'd have no problem having a child over for a playdate or back to school after a shampoo treatment. I'd have no problem with a child remaining at school. I might cut a playdate short if I dissevered live lice on either child, but only because girls playing one on one are more likely to touch their heads together. I'd have zero concern about the child transmitting lice to me, however, or infecting my house.

When we discovered lice, we only did the two shampoos, nit combing, and washing the sheets and pillowcases. Bagging and vacuuming all the stuffed animals and furniture is usually overkill, but I could see doing in for a recurrent case.

So, yes, I stand by what I said. If the parents were just informed that afternoon about the lice, it seems entirely appropriate to ask the nanny to wash the sheets and do a shampoo after school. If the parents knew the night before, it wasn't reasonable to wait a whole day for the initial treatment. And considering staying out of work because of a case of lice is over the top, as is doing any sort of treatment or cleaning in your house if you yourself don't have any signs of lice.

Anonymous wrote:Lice isn't an illness. It's not highly contagious. It's annoying and takes some work to eradicate. But let's stop with the hyperbole.

By the time your average kid is diagnosed, they have had the lice for two weeks. So the odds of your catching it in the period of time between being diagnosed and using the shampoo to kill live lice is pretty much zero. The AAP doesnt even recommend sending kids home from school.

I'm a pediatrician. I've diagnosed lice. My 15 year old had lice twice in elementary school. My husband and I never caught lice. We did the shampooing and combing, but our younger daughters nanny didn't get lice either.

/if/ the parents knew the night before, they should have at least done the initial shampoo. (The OP still hasn't clarified the timeline) but, seriously, this is not bubonic plague or even strep throat. It's a minor annoyance.

What OP's family did is disgraceful and I wouldn't blame her if she quit on the spot. I'm also having a hard time believing you are a pediatrician. So let me ask you this-if you stand by your original statement, am I correct in assuming you would have no problem with another parent showing up at your house for a playdate with their child's head full of lice without telling you first. Can I also assume that you would have no problem with another parent sending their child to school with your child with full knowledge that they have lice? Please answer with explanation.

Sorry delouse

Sorry...Pissed

OP here..I started getting annoyed because it wasn t just the infested children I had to deal with stripping beds..doing 3 loads of laundry..bagging stuff animals...while children screamed and misbehave..bathed and then shampoo hair..Trying to settle them while I painstakingly comb out nits..
What do you think happened when the parent came home..NOTHING...all that was left to do I told them was vacuum..I came in th e next day and it was not done...

I do get aggravated when I hear nannies say they do all those things to make mb's/db life better because they work and come home and care for their kids..Those of us who have families also go to work and work longer hours because we're on the job before they leave for work and after they're home..We also have husbands and children to care for after we enter our door..Some of don't go home a nd put our feet up like our work is done..

After I left their home where they had nothing left really to do to espouse their house I had the task of going home and doing t he same to mine. That night I finished my cleaning at a almost 12...
Do you want to guest what my employers were doing at that time..Sleeping..She said they were asleep about 9

Any guesses why I'm passed...

Anonymous wrote:Lice are not an "illness." A kid with lice is not sick. They are not highly contagious, they are just a pain to eradicate, and by the time you find out a kid has lice, he/she has probably had lice for days, if not weeks.

We know this, but OP and contract girl don't seem to understand that.

Lice are not an "illness." A kid with lice is not sick. They are not highly contagious, they are just a pain to eradicate, and by the time you find out a kid has lice, he/she has probably had lice for days, if not weeks.

OP here clarifying a few facts..
My job as it was stated to me is that..
I pick up nanny vehicle at their house 11:30
Drive to preschool pick-up 23 month old..take him home and put to bed..
Take him at 3 o'clock to pick up almost 4 year old sister..
Take them to the park.... or wherever at until 4:30
Bathtime around 5:15
Dinner 5:45 (mom has dinner on refrigerator)
Parents return anywhere after 5:30
I leave around 6:30

I do know that I am a nanny and a DAMN GOOD ONE TOO
but there are times in my experience that mb's should use discretion and consideration..
I don't know when they found out..neither would they tell me..
I have seen them take time off for ridiculous things..
If they found out during the day..should I have picked up the kids? YES..
Should they have given me a long list of task to do while caring for two very hyper kids..NOOO..
All parents know their kids..there are well behaved kids you can do errands with and chores and there are those you can't leave for a second...well mine fight frequently and can't be left alone together not even for bathroom breaks..
So YES at least one of the parents should have come home early at least 4..to delous their children
Like I said not everything should fall under the umbrella of nanny care

Lice isn't an illness. It's not highly contagious. It's annoying and takes some work to eradicate. But let's stop with the hyperbole.

By the time your average kid is diagnosed, they have had the lice for two weeks. So the odds of your catching it in the period of time between being diagnosed and using the shampoo to kill live lice is pretty much zero. The AAP doesnt even recommend sending kids home from school.

I'm a pediatrician. I've diagnosed lice. My 15 year old had lice twice in elementary school. My husband and I never caught lice. We did the shampooing and combing, but our younger daughters nanny didn't get lice either.

/if/ the parents knew the night before, they should have at least done the initial shampoo. (The OP still hasn't clarified the timeline) but, seriously, this is not bubonic plague or even strep throat. It's a minor annoyance.


Exactly!

+2.

I have it in my contact that I will not be in a house where children have lice unless they have started shampooing their kids and delousing, I also get a text or phone call so I can make sure I'm taking precautions (like putting my hair up & wearing a hat or badana). I quit my first family on the spot after they didn't tell me the kids had lice until they got home from work that night- they had known since the previous evening and didn't say anything.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here...NOOO...I don't care for the mb's comment..I should not have to delouse the children. Those are the same parents that take time off for well doctors visit and every little crap their children do in school..Bottom line is my mb like most of those out there have a cleaner and did not want the humongous undertaking of cleaning up and treating her children's hair..At least someone could have shown up at 4.
I personally don't see why mb's should think that because we are nannies every thing goes..I'm sick of this..especially when I don't get paid for my sick days when I get sick from their household....In this case I think I should be given the option of whether I want to lose a day's pay or not...You mb's can't have it your way all the same time...
I WOULD HAVE RATHER STAY HOME AND LET THEM KEEP THE MONEY...since you mb's think we get such a great paycheck

Sorry, as a nanny, I disagree with you on this one. Yes, they should have done more for their kids than what they did, but this is why parents hire nannies. I would never think of telling a parent they need to come home because the kid got lice. When I found it in one of the kids I took care of, I did all the heavy lifting. Partly because I knew it would be done right if I did it and partly because it is my job to take care of the children and things that go with the children.


I don't understand nannies who think they shouldn't have to go in to work just because little Johnny or Suzie gets the sniffles.

Stop it. That is not what this is about and you know it. You're trying to start a flame war, troll.

Sorry, not a troll. Just a nanny who thinks there are too many nannies out there who do not understand what it means to be a nanny.

Well we aren't talking about sniffles, so start your own thread. Lice would be akin to a highly contagious labor intensive illness, which the general consensus has always been that at that point a parent ought to step in, or at the very least, nanny should be given the opportunity to decide if it is a risk she isn't willing to take for her family. I have a husband, whose income we rely upon, and a child who I'd rather not get sick. If your kid has the sniffles, no problem. If your kid has strep, I would like forewarning so I can either tell you I won't be in, or so I can send my kid to grandma's. If as a parent you would give warning to a play date and their parents, you need to let your nanny know too. We have families and lives as well. Even when my charge has the sniffles, I usually have it by the weekend, and spend my off time recovering/miserable, despite my own plans.

Lice is not highly contagious. If people took the time to really educate themselves about lice and what measures need to be taken after it has been found, maybe people would stop treating it like some horrible, nasty disease.
I have never taken a day off of work as a nanny because a child was sick or, heaven forbid, had lice. In 20 plus years, I have gotten strep once, lice once, and a couple of colds here and there that were directly from the children I took care of. I don't get why nannies think they should get a pass from taking care of sick children, that is why you were hired. To be there when the parents can't be.

If you're actually paying for a stand in parent, by all means, ask what you will of her. If you're paying the rates commonly quoted here as acceptable, $12/hour in a current thread!!!, you have no right to expect me to deal with lice, or any other contagious nasty illnesses. Never in my life have I had lice, or any of my four siblings. I have no desire to deal with it now, or give it to my kid, thank you.

Do you really think if a kid comes home with lice that it is the first day of your exposure to it? You have less chance of getting it after you know the kid has lice, because you can take precautions and know what to be on the lookout for.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here...NOOO...I don't care for the mb's comment..I should not have to delouse the children. Those are the same parents that take time off for well doctors visit and every little crap their children do in school..Bottom line is my mb like most of those out there have a cleaner and did not want the humongous undertaking of cleaning up and treating her children's hair..At least someone could have shown up at 4.
I personally don't see why mb's should think that because we are nannies every thing goes..I'm sick of this..especially when I don't get paid for my sick days when I get sick from their household....In this case I think I should be given the option of whether I want to lose a day's pay or not...You mb's can't have it your way all the same time...
I WOULD HAVE RATHER STAY HOME AND LET THEM KEEP THE MONEY...since you mb's think we get such a great paycheck

Sorry, as a nanny, I disagree with you on this one. Yes, they should have done more for their kids than what they did, but this is why parents hire nannies. I would never think of telling a parent they need to come home because the kid got lice. When I found it in one of the kids I took care of, I did all the heavy lifting. Partly because I knew it would be done right if I did it and partly because it is my job to take care of the children and things that go with the children.


I don't understand nannies who think they shouldn't have to go in to work just because little Johnny or Suzie gets the sniffles.

Stop it. That is not what this is about and you know it. You're trying to start a flame war, troll.

Sorry, not a troll. Just a nanny who thinks there are too many nannies out there who do not understand what it means to be a nanny.

Well we aren't talking about sniffles, so start your own thread. Lice would be akin to a highly contagious labor intensive illness, which the general consensus has always been that at that point a parent ought to step in, or at the very least, nanny should be given the opportunity to decide if it is a risk she isn't willing to take for her family. I have a husband, whose income we rely upon, and a child who I'd rather not get sick. If your kid has the sniffles, no problem. If your kid has strep, I would like forewarning so I can either tell you I won't be in, or so I can send my kid to grandma's. If as a parent you would give warning to a play date and their parents, you need to let your nanny know too. We have families and lives as well. Even when my charge has the sniffles, I usually have it by the weekend, and spend my off time recovering/miserable, despite my own plans.

Lice is not highly contagious. If people took the time to really educate themselves about lice and what measures need to be taken after it has been found, maybe people would stop treating it like some horrible, nasty disease.
I have never taken a day off of work as a nanny because a child was sick or, heaven forbid, had lice. In 20 plus years, I have gotten strep once, lice once, and a couple of colds here and there that were directly from the children I took care of. I don't get why nannies think they should get a pass from taking care of sick children, that is why you were hired. To be there when the parents can't be.

If you're actually paying for a stand in parent, by all means, ask what you will of her. If you're paying the rates commonly quoted here as acceptable, $12/hour in a current thread!!!, you have no right to expect me to deal with lice, or any other contagious nasty illnesses. Never in my life have I had lice, or any of my four siblings. I have no desire to deal with it now, or give it to my kid, thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here...NOOO...I don't care for the mb's comment..I should not have to delouse the children. Those are the same parents that take time off for well doctors visit and every little crap their children do in school..Bottom line is my mb like most of those out there have a cleaner and did not want the humongous undertaking of cleaning up and treating her children's hair..At least someone could have shown up at 4.
I personally don't see why mb's should think that because we are nannies every thing goes..I'm sick of this..especially when I don't get paid for my sick days when I get sick from their household....In this case I think I should be given the option of whether I want to lose a day's pay or not...You mb's can't have it your way all the same time...
I WOULD HAVE RATHER STAY HOME AND LET THEM KEEP THE MONEY...since you mb's think we get such a great paycheck

Sorry, as a nanny, I disagree with you on this one. Yes, they should have done more for their kids than what they did, but this is why parents hire nannies. I would never think of telling a parent they need to come home because the kid got lice. When I found it in one of the kids I took care of, I did all the heavy lifting. Partly because I knew it would be done right if I did it and partly because it is my job to take care of the children and things that go with the children.


I don't understand nannies who think they shouldn't have to go in to work just because little Johnny or Suzie gets the sniffles.

Stop it. That is not what this is about and you know it. You're trying to start a flame war, troll.

Sorry, not a troll. Just a nanny who thinks there are too many nannies out there who do not understand what it means to be a nanny.

Well we aren't talking about sniffles, so start your own thread. Lice would be akin to a highly contagious labor intensive illness, which the general consensus has always been that at that point a parent ought to step in, or at the very least, nanny should be given the opportunity to decide if it is a risk she isn't willing to take for her family. I have a husband, whose income we rely upon, and a child who I'd rather not get sick. If your kid has the sniffles, no problem. If your kid has strep, I would like forewarning so I can either tell you I won't be in, or so I can send my kid to grandma's. If as a parent you would give warning to a play date and their parents, you need to let your nanny know too. We have families and lives as well. Even when my charge has the sniffles, I usually have it by the weekend, and spend my off time recovering/miserable, despite my own plans.

Lice is not highly contagious. If people took the time to really educate themselves about lice and what measures need to be taken after it has been found, maybe people would stop treating it like some horrible, nasty disease.
I have never taken a day off of work as a nanny because a child was sick or, heaven forbid, had lice. In 20 plus years, I have gotten strep once, lice once, and a couple of colds here and there that were directly from the children I took care of. I don't get why nannies think they should get a pass from taking care of sick children, that is why you were hired. To be there when the parents can't be.

Anonymous wrote:Lice isn't an illness. It's not highly contagious. It's annoying and takes some work to eradicate. But let's stop with the hyperbole.

By the time your average kid is diagnosed, they have had the lice for two weeks. So the odds of your catching it in the period of time between being diagnosed and using the shampoo to kill live lice is pretty much zero. The AAP doesnt even recommend sending kids home from school.

I'm a pediatrician. I've diagnosed lice. My 15 year old had lice twice in elementary school. My husband and I never caught lice. We did the shampooing and combing, but our younger daughters nanny didn't get lice either.

/if/ the parents knew the night before, they should have at least done the initial shampoo. (The OP still hasn't clarified the timeline) but, seriously, this is not bubonic plague or even strep throat. It's a minor annoyance.

Exactly!