^^or worse, so they don't have to be alone with their kids!

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Anonymous wrote:Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.

Agreed. My husband and I are both doctors and don't have the option of telecommuting. Nor do we have the option of not going to work if the office is open. Unfortunately we live on the top of a really steep hill that becomes a sheet of ice that takes days to melt when it snows even an inch. When we know the weather is going to be bad we stay at my parents house which means packing up 3 children and 2 adults. It's a HUGE pain but as I said, just because it snows doesn't mean we don't have to go to work.

I don't want our nanny to be unsafe so of course if I don't have to go to work neither does the nanny but if I have to go I expect her to at least try her best to be able to come, even if it takes a little longer.

You must understand that your situation is a world different from sitting on your ass in your home office whining because your nanny doesn't want to climb the ice hill to your house right? You're actually going in to work. You're not teleworking, expecting your nanny to do something you can't or won't do. Yes Friday wasn't too bad, but with the always available option to telework, some employers have unreasonable expectations for their nanny getting to their home. That's why I address it in my contract. I'm not going to wait for the blizzard to happen, and have some asshole of an employer bitch at me because I can't get to them so they can telework.

Anonymous wrote:Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.

Agreed. My husband and I are both doctors and don't have the option of telecommuting. Nor do we have the option of not going to work if the office is open. Unfortunately we live on the top of a really steep hill that becomes a sheet of ice that takes days to melt when it snows even an inch. When we know the weather is going to be bad we stay at my parents house which means packing up 3 children and 2 adults. It's a HUGE pain but as I said, just because it snows doesn't mean we don't have to go to work.

I don't want our nanny to be unsafe so of course if I don't have to go to work neither does the nanny but if I have to go I expect her to at least try her best to be able to come, even if it takes a little longer.

Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey guys. I responding to the question of why I chose to telework Friday. I didn't even say I have a nanny. I disagree that it was an acknowledgement that the roads were better to stay of. I teleworker because it's better to telework - no commute, stay in my jammies, throw some laundry in during the day. I would always prefer to if given the option. Snowing or not.

If you don't employ a nanny, why would you even respond on this thread? You are acknowledging that going to work on a snow day is a hassle-don't you think it's a hassle for the nanny you may or may not employ?

No if you read again, I did not acknowledge that going in on a snow day is a hassle. I said I would always prefer to telework because it's easier. That doesn't mean I think I'm entitled to it or that I think that makes me better than a nanny. It means plain and simple that I'd rather telework than not telework. I'd also rather not work at all, as would most people I presume. But when you have a job, people are relying on you and you do your best under the circumstances to get to work. It's a major benefit to telework, absolutely. I'm thrilled that my job allows telework. As a nanny, you don't have that option. That stinks and if you can't come in, you can't come in. But don't be implying that anyone teleworking Friday automatically did so because it was so unsafe to be driving. Most people probably did so because like I said, telework is better than not teleworking.

It bugs me when people read into things. Like the nanny who said that if I telework but expect my nanny to still come in, that means I think I'm better than my nanny. No, it means my job gave me the option to telework and it means that if my nanny feels it's safe to get to her job, I expect her to come so that I can work. That's all it means.

Anonymous wrote:I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.

Monday morning, please tell your nanny that if she has a problem with you valuing your safety and comfort over hers, she can find a new job. Put your money where your mouth is.

Anonymous wrote:Hey guys. I responding to the question of why I chose to telework Friday. I didn't even say I have a nanny. I disagree that it was an acknowledgement that the roads were better to stay of. I teleworker because it's better to telework - no commute, stay in my jammies, throw some laundry in during the day. I would always prefer to if given the option. Snowing or not.

If you don't employ a nanny, why would you even respond on this thread? You are acknowledging that going to work on a snow day is a hassle-don't you think it's a hassle for the nanny you may or may not employ?

"I teleworker because it's better to telework - no commute, stay in my jammies, throw some laundry in during the day. I would always prefer to if given the option. Snowing or not. "

+1 employers are most likely not picking telework becasue they think the roads are risky (they normally are ok if the feds don't even delay which was the case on Friday) - but because it's better to avoid the commute if you can.

No one is talking about forcing a nanny to come in during a blizzard when the fed govn't is shut down or something. the focus of the discussion is a day like Friday when feds are open, vast majority of businesses are open and it's primarily just schools (which close at the drop of a hat due to liability issues with the country roads in the far parts of the county) that were closed. And also - yes, the jerks that did not shovel and salt their steps are morons and very inconsiderate. That does not mean the roads are bad. It also does not mean that you cannot ask your MB - hey, would you mind making sure the walk is clear?

Anonymous wrote:I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.

I've had no problem finding jobs and reasonable employers, but thanks for your concern. If the roads are good enough for you to ask me to drive on, you can take your ass to work too. If not, we'll need to work something out. You're not required to telework. You're choosing to telework, because you don't want to go in. That's the insult. You aren't better than me. Don't expect from me, what you aren't willing to do yourself.

I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious here and I'm not the PP with the policy-if you have the option to telework, then you have the option to go to work. Why would you choose to telework but expect your nanny to travel to you? Employers, what's your rationale for this? BTW, I worked yesterday, it wasnt' that bad (where I am, don't know about other areas).

I teleworker Friday - because I had the option and I would always prefer to telework than not. The roads were fine - I could have gotten to work on time, but if someone gives you the option to telework, wouldn't you prefer to?

How do you know the roads were fine if you teleworked? Unless your nanny lives in your neighborhood, you don't know what she went through to get to you. My employers live in the city. Their roads were fine. I live further out in the suburbs. My roads were a crapshoot. I leave home while its still dark, and everything was still frozen. During the day everything melted. I leave again once its dark, and everything froze over again. My employers, who didnt shovel or salt their steps, had a huge puddle of melted snow/ice at the foot of their steps, which by the time I left in the evening was a slick patch of black ice. All of this because they couldn't be bothered to actually go into work, and so assumed conditions weren't that bad. If I had broken something, and was out of commission for a while, what do you think would happen to my job?

It appears that there are two sets of rules when it comes to icy roads. At least, that's what I've gathered from this forum. I've seen the "get a nanny that lives close by" and "don't get a nanny from a tropical climate" arguments all over this board. However, even if she lives 2 blocks away, and the streets are covered in ice, no parent has been able to answer me when I ask, how one is to safely travel on ice. It's truly a shame. Also, if I don't come in when it's icy, I don't expect to get paid. I'd rather be short of a check, with my limbs intact, so that I can work for someone else.

Hey guys. I responding to the question of why I chose to telework Friday. I didn't even say I have a nanny. I disagree that it was an acknowledgement that the roads were better to stay of. I teleworker because it's better to telework - no commute, stay in my jammies, throw some laundry in during the day. I would always prefer to if given the option. Snowing or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious here and I'm not the PP with the policy-if you have the option to telework, then you have the option to go to work. Why would you choose to telework but expect your nanny to travel to you? Employers, what's your rationale for this? BTW, I worked yesterday, it wasnt' that bad (where I am, don't know about other areas).

I teleworker Friday - because I had the option and I would always prefer to telework than not. The roads were fine - I could have gotten to work on time, but if someone gives you the option to telework, wouldn't you prefer to?

You didn't explain why you would expect your nanny to travel. Believe me, we already know why YOU chose to stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious here and I'm not the PP with the policy-if you have the option to telework, then you have the option to go to work. Why would you choose to telework but expect your nanny to travel to you? Employers, what's your rationale for this? BTW, I worked yesterday, it wasnt' that bad (where I am, don't know about other areas).

I teleworker Friday - because I had the option and I would always prefer to telework than not. The roads were fine - I could have gotten to work on time, but if someone gives you the option to telework, wouldn't you prefer to?

How do you know the roads were fine if you teleworked? Unless your nanny lives in your neighborhood, you don't know what she went through to get to you. My employers live in the city. Their roads were fine. I live further out in the suburbs. My roads were a crapshoot. I leave home while its still dark, and everything was still frozen. During the day everything melted. I leave again once its dark, and everything froze over again. My employers, who didnt shovel or salt their steps, had a huge puddle of melted snow/ice at the foot of their steps, which by the time I left in the evening was a slick patch of black ice. All of this because they couldn't be bothered to actually go into work, and so assumed conditions weren't that bad. If I had broken something, and was out of commission for a while, what do you think would happen to my job?

Anonymous wrote:Just curious here and I'm not the PP with the policy-if you have the option to telework, then you have the option to go to work. Why would you choose to telework but expect your nanny to travel to you? Employers, what's your rationale for this? BTW, I worked yesterday, it wasnt' that bad (where I am, don't know about other areas).

This. This is my issue. If you can go to work, but you choose to telework, you're basically acknowledging that it'd be best to not travel in such conditions. How can you, in good conscience, then turn around and ask your nanny to do what you were unwilling to do yourself? My policy simply forces my employers to treat me equally. If you're working/traveling, so am I. If you're going to work, but not travel, you're going to need to be understanding and make sure that you're being fair to me.