Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:57     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love how the Mb with 4 kids can comment on all the posts EXCEPT the one on what she will be paying?!

Fingers crossed its minimum wage


The only three people who need to know what I'm paying my nanny are: my nanny, my husband and my accountant. She knew what the pay would be before she agreed to come in, so it's enough that it's acceptable to her which is what matters.


So no, she isn't paying her holiday pay. If she was she'd be using that as a reason why she isn't horrid, but alas she is horrid.

+100000
If she was paying her holiday she would say oh well I won't give a number but yes we are giving extra for the holiday and inconvenience to her.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:56     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Why isn't your husband helping out with the kids??? Or grandparents that are coming over??

Can you not multitask?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:46     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is skipping over the real issue here. There is a serious lack of proper communication between MB's and nannies. Nannies are afraid to say no to any request but later feel resentment about having to do xyz.

I can understand why nannies feel this way. Think about it, there's no job security, they are employed only long as MB decides its still working out on her end. There's no HR protection etc. I get it. But at the same time, it seems like MB's can do nothing right.


This is the problem, and that you recognize it is great! There is a power dynamic in the relationship, and the onus is on the individual with the power (MB) to be conscious of it in her requests and treatment of the one with less power (nanny). This is such a thing as abuse of power, and it is really hard for a nanny to say no to her boss. We have NO protection. PPs said that any reasonable person would understand, but there is no rule that only reasonable people can hire nannies. You just never know what could cost you your job, or what they will hold against you later (I can completely see this coming up later in a reference; "Nanny was generally wonderful, but she was inflexible about her hours at times when we REALLY needed it. Blah blah blah.)


Ok, so then you'd rather an MB always, without exception, just hire a different sitter when there might be a chance that her nanny might possibly feel pressured to come in?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:24     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is skipping over the real issue here. There is a serious lack of proper communication between MB's and nannies. Nannies are afraid to say no to any request but later feel resentment about having to do xyz.

I can understand why nannies feel this way. Think about it, there's no job security, they are employed only long as MB decides its still working out on her end. There's no HR protection etc. I get it. But at the same time, it seems like MB's can do nothing right.


This is the problem, and that you recognize it is great! There is a power dynamic in the relationship, and the onus is on the individual with the power (MB) to be conscious of it in her requests and treatment of the one with less power (nanny). This is such a thing as abuse of power, and it is really hard for a nanny to say no to her boss. We have NO protection. PPs said that any reasonable person would understand, but there is no rule that only reasonable people can hire nannies. You just never know what could cost you your job, or what they will hold against you later (I can completely see this coming up later in a reference; "Nanny was generally wonderful, but she was inflexible about her hours at times when we REALLY needed it. Blah blah blah.)
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:17     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love how the Mb with 4 kids can comment on all the posts EXCEPT the one on what she will be paying?!

Fingers crossed its minimum wage


The only three people who need to know what I'm paying my nanny are: my nanny, my husband and my accountant. She knew what the pay would be before she agreed to come in, so it's enough that it's acceptable to her which is what matters.


So no, she isn't paying her holiday pay. If she was she'd be using that as a reason why she isn't horrid, but alas she is horrid.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:15     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Everyone is skipping over the real issue here. There is a serious lack of proper communication between MB's and nannies. Nannies are afraid to say no to any request but later feel resentment about having to do xyz.

I can understand why nannies feel this way. Think about it, there's no job security, they are employed only long as MB decides its still working out on her end. There's no HR protection etc. I get it. But at the same time, it seems like MB's can do nothing right.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:09     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:Love how the Mb with 4 kids can comment on all the posts EXCEPT the one on what she will be paying?!

Fingers crossed its minimum wage


The only three people who need to know what I'm paying my nanny are: my nanny, my husband and my accountant. She knew what the pay would be before she agreed to come in, so it's enough that it's acceptable to her which is what matters.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 13:00     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Love how the Mb with 4 kids can comment on all the posts EXCEPT the one on what she will be paying?!

Fingers crossed its minimum wage
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 12:47     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Nanny here. I think I would come in for a few extra hours on a holiday. I wouldn't be offended.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 11:33     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:The thing is, if the MB just went ahead and hired a sitter for these few hours, and mentioned it later in passing, the nanny would have been posting here "Why didn't that bitch asked ME first??? Doesn't she like me???"


Exactly! She was asked. She wasn't told she had to work. She was asked. There are many people out there who do have to work tomorrow. Either they work, or they lose their jobs. OP should be thankful she has a job and has the opportunity to say no to her MB.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 11:20     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
The thing is, if the MB just went ahead and hired a sitter for these few hours, and mentioned it later in passing, the nanny would have been posting here "Why didn't that bitch asked ME first??? Doesn't she like me???"
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 10:45     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:Tbe ptoblem is that OP's MB is showing her complete lack ofrespect for OP. money is not everything and OP has a right to enjoy the holifay with her family. Her MB put her in a terrible podition and every damn one of you know that it is not as easy as just saying no.

OP, I hope you do not mess up your holiday by helping this lazy, thoughtless bitch. Happy Thanksgiving to you and I hope het's is an unmitigatef disaster.


You are such a class act. Can I hire you to be my nanny so you can try to walk all over me?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 10:28     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:Tbe ptoblem is that OP's MB is showing her complete lack ofrespect for OP. money is not everything and OP has a right to enjoy the holifay with her family. Her MB put her in a terrible podition and every damn one of you know that it is not as easy as just saying no.

OP, I hope you do not mess up your holiday by helping this lazy, thoughtless bitch. Happy Thanksgiving to you and I hope het's is an unmitigatef disaster.


Yikes, PP - so much anger over this. It scares me how upset you are. What would you say if the mom didn't even ask her nanny but instead hired a babysitter, and then the nanny found out and was hurt because she could have used the extra money and her MB didn't even ask? Seriously I can see that happening too. Why would someone simply asking (you don't know based on this post whether the MB would be guilt-tripping or not) be so angering to you?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 10:27     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:00:19, you invited all these guests, have them help you or have it cateted. You are lazy.


I will assume you mean catered, yes? Isn't THAT the height of laziness, rather than having someone come watch the children for a few hours while you cook for a few dozen people?


Caterers go into the job realizing they will work holidays (that's when people have parties). Nannies go into a job expecting to change diapers, but it is not a given that you will work on holidays. If the party you chose to have/the children you chose to have are too much for you, it sound like you make bad choices and expect other people to clean up your mess, both figuratively and literally. You still haven't answered the big question, how are you compensating your nanny for these hours? Double pay? An extra day off? A gigantic bonus? For some reason, I get the feeling you plan to pay her regular weekly rate, which you would've paid had she worked or not, right?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 09:55     Subject: MB asked me to work a few hours on Thanksgiving!!
Anonymous wrote:00:19, you invited all these guests, have them help you or have it cateted. You are lazy.


I will assume you mean catered, yes? Isn't THAT the height of laziness, rather than having someone come watch the children for a few hours while you cook for a few dozen people?