Anonymous
Post 11/28/2013 16:55     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
Anonymous wrote:Op here. Everyone is so divided on this! For PP, since it was a camera violation, there are no points. The ticket came to DH (car is registered to him), and legally he is responsible for paying.

I'll email her over the weekend about the ticket and tell her we'll pay it this time but she'll be responsible if it happens again. If she offers to pay, I'll suggest we split the cost. I don't want to stick her with the whole thing at the holidays- she pieces together a few part time jobs (so no paid time off) and I suspect she is anxious about money at the holidays. If it were speeding or blowing through a red light, it might be a different story, but I don't see rolling a right turn on red at a quiet intersection as a major safety concern.

Thanks for all the feedback!


Another MB here. This is exactly what I would do.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2013 12:44     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
Yes, 20:39, I suppose you are entitled to be ignorant and to share your ignorance on an anonymous forum and call them "coherent arguments", even though you are wrong.

Others also have a right to judge your ignorance as well.

You might want to develop a thicker skin. My response to you was not particularly rude. I called your response dumb because it is. I didn't call you dumb.

Considering how often nannies here call MB's entitled bitches and all the other names they use, my response to you was pretty mild.

Grow up.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2013 08:56     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the rude poster, but I don't think your argument was a good one. Your argument was essentially that anything the nanny does while on duty is the responsibility of the employer. It's not factual.


That's your opinion. In my opinion, any costs incurred while on the job, incurred by actually doing the job (so not doing drugs as another poster claimed), even if doing it incorrectly, are the responsibility of the employer. If the nanny were severely injured driving your children, she'd be entitled to workers comp, even if the accident was her fault. Its on the clock, doing her job, its on you.


It's not my "opinion." There's a difference between being liable for something that happens to an employee (e.g., employee falls down the stairs while nannying) and for being liable when the employee is doing something illegal (e.g. running a red light). I can't do illegal things on the job and then expect my employer to be responsible for them.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2013 07:48     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the rude poster, but I don't think your argument was a good one. Your argument was essentially that anything the nanny does while on duty is the responsibility of the employer. It's not factual.


That's your opinion. In my opinion, any costs incurred while on the job, incurred by actually doing the job (so not doing drugs as another poster claimed), even if doing it incorrectly, are the responsibility of the employer. If the nanny were severely injured driving your children, she'd be entitled to workers comp, even if the accident was her fault. Its on the clock, doing her job, its on you.


Why should the employer be responsible for the nanny doing something illegal while she works? If a nanny beats a child while working, is that the responsibility of the employer?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 20:39     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the rude poster, but I don't think your argument was a good one. Your argument was essentially that anything the nanny does while on duty is the responsibility of the employer. It's not factual.


That's your opinion. In my opinion, any costs incurred while on the job, incurred by actually doing the job (so not doing drugs as another poster claimed), even if doing it incorrectly, are the responsibility of the employer. If the nanny were severely injured driving your children, she'd be entitled to workers comp, even if the accident was her fault. Its on the clock, doing her job, its on you.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 20:35     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
she should pay it, but flag it for her so she knows there is a camera there.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 20:19     Subject: Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
I'm not the rude poster, but I don't think your argument was a good one. Your argument was essentially that anything the nanny does while on duty is the responsibility of the employer. It's not factual.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2013 19:58     Subject: Re:Babysitter got red light ticket in our car
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I don't even a little bit understand why the "magnanimous" thing to do would be to pay someone else's traffic violation ticket.


That's the price of being an employer. Employees screw up sometimes, while carrying out your business. It was nonetheless your business, and your responsibility. If OPs nanny had not been driving her children, nanny wouldn't have gotten the ticket. Yes it's her ticket, but OP is the employer. OP could rightfully decide that she no longer trusts this employee to do the driving, but that's what her choice is, not whether or not this is hers to shoulder. It is.


Good grief, what a dumb response.

Let's break it down. An employee does something illegal, but it isn't the employee's fault that they break the law because as long as the employee was carrying out the employer's business, the employer is responsible for the employee's illegal actions.

Um, no.

When an individual acts illegally, they are the only ones responsible for the consequences. If I decide to do drugs because I was trying to stay up all night completing some work project and I get busted for trying to buy the drugs, who do you think should get arrested? My employer? After all, I needed to buy drugs to do their business, right?


A simple "I disagree" would suffice. I don't understand why you needed to be rude. I have my opinion and you have yours. It doesn't make mine stupid, and I presented a coherent argument, even if you disagree. That's what forums are about. I hope one of your resolutions is to be nicer.