Anonymous
11/12/2013 22:20
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I work 14 hour days as a nanny...I have the kids that whole time...and yes we stop at my house briefly...if your nanny works over 10 hours inwouldnconsider letting her run home to let a pet out etc....once in a while in throw in laundry or plug in my crick pot..before everyone freaks out I am going to mention that nannies don't get a break and perhaps if she is leaving the house really early ( like I do at 515 am) and getting home at 7/8 pm she may be picking up her lunch or something
And yes my employer knows I stop home but I also wouldn't hide it!
That's the whole point of the OP. It's not the issue that she stops at her house it's that she hides it from her employer. My nanny sometimes takes DC to her house but she asked if that was ok before she did and she always tells me when she does (I didn't ask her to report to me every day but I appreciate that she lets me know where they were). This helps build trust between us. If I found out my nanny was taking DC to her house and hid it from me I'd be livid. It would be very hard to trust her after that and in the end I'd probably let her go because even if she came clean how can I trust someone who lies to take good care of my children?
+1. you told your employer where you were going, your employer did not need to find out from the mileage of the car and the GPS.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 22:07
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:many of the professional MB/DB that hire nannies work in offices with security cameras in all areas, security passes as you go in and out of the building, colleagues and bosses nearby and regular meetings to check on your work progress and what you are up to. It is simply a function of working life that if someone pays you to do a job they expect you to be accountable for pretty much most of that time.
It astounds me that some vocal nannies feel that this is somehow an invasion of their privacy. It is not your private time, you are actually working and therefore should be prepared to be accountable for what you are doing. Someone who starts regularly disappearing for an unexplained hour at a time will get called out in almost all professions. Not sure there should be a special exception for nannies.
What astounds me is that you even hire such people and then pretend you have a nanny.
This doesn't even make sense. You can be as diligent as you want in background checks and calling references etc but sometimes you have no idea who you are hiring until they actually start working. I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
I do have an opinion about people who leave their kids with someone who "you have no idea who you're hiring".
Anonymous
11/12/2013 22:03
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
+1 to 19:18
Anonymous
11/12/2013 22:01
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:many of the professional MB/DB that hire nannies work in offices with security cameras in all areas, security passes as you go in and out of the building, colleagues and bosses nearby and regular meetings to check on your work progress and what you are up to. It is simply a function of working life that if someone pays you to do a job they expect you to be accountable for pretty much most of that time.
It astounds me that some vocal nannies feel that this is somehow an invasion of their privacy. It is not your private time, you are actually working and therefore should be prepared to be accountable for what you are doing. Someone who starts regularly disappearing for an unexplained hour at a time will get called out in almost all professions. Not sure there should be a special exception for nannies.
What astounds me is that you even hire such people and then pretend you have a nanny.
This doesn't even make sense. You can be as diligent as you want in background checks and calling references etc but sometimes you have no idea who you are hiring until they actually start working. I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 21:51
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:many of the professional MB/DB that hire nannies work in offices with security cameras in all areas, security passes as you go in and out of the building, colleagues and bosses nearby and regular meetings to check on your work progress and what you are up to. It is simply a function of working life that if someone pays you to do a job they expect you to be accountable for pretty much most of that time.
It astounds me that some vocal nannies feel that this is somehow an invasion of their privacy. It is not your private time, you are actually working and therefore should be prepared to be accountable for what you are doing. Someone who starts regularly disappearing for an unexplained hour at a time will get called out in almost all professions. Not sure there should be a special exception for nannies.
What astounds me is that you even hire such people and then pretend you have a nanny.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 21:43
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:I work 14 hour days as a nanny...I have the kids that whole time...and yes we stop at my house briefly...if your nanny works over 10 hours inwouldnconsider letting her run home to let a pet out etc....once in a while in throw in laundry or plug in my crick pot..before everyone freaks out I am going to mention that nannies don't get a break and perhaps if she is leaving the house really early ( like I do at 515 am) and getting home at 7/8 pm she may be picking up her lunch or something
And yes my employer knows I stop home but I also wouldn't hide it!
That's the whole point of the OP. It's not the issue that she stops at her house it's that she hides it from her employer. My nanny sometimes takes DC to her house but she asked if that was ok before she did and she always tells me when she does (I didn't ask her to report to me every day but I appreciate that she lets me know where they were). This helps build trust between us. If I found out my nanny was taking DC to her house and hid it from me I'd be livid. It would be very hard to trust her after that and in the end I'd probably let her go because even if she came clean how can I trust someone who lies to take good care of my children?
Anonymous
11/12/2013 20:40
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
I work 14 hour days as a nanny...I have the kids that whole time...and yes we stop at my house briefly...if your nanny works over 10 hours inwouldnconsider letting her run home to let a pet out etc....once in a while in throw in laundry or plug in my crick pot..before everyone freaks out I am going to mention that nannies don't get a break and perhaps if she is leaving the house really early ( like I do at 515 am) and getting home at 7/8 pm she may be picking up her lunch or something
And yes my employer knows I stop home but I also wouldn't hide it!
And yes my employer knows I stop home but I also wouldn't hide it!
Anonymous
11/12/2013 19:18
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:Why would you install a GPS and not tell her?
Instead of going behind her back, why didn't you just come right out and ask her first?
Now you have installed a huge barrier between your family and her and any successful communication techniques will most likely fall by the waste side.
look, the person going behind the back here was the nanny, who was paid for watching an infant and provided a car so she could take the older child to school. instead, she went home during working hours, without permission and lying to her employer (she kept a detailed log but apparently the hour she was spending at home never made it into the log). and it was not a one time thing, but repeated behavior. the employer did not install any barrier. the nanny did it by her behavior. and the employer can actually ask her where she did during the day at the end of the day and see what the nanny says. I definitely would have a talk with the nanny, but I do not think that I would trust her for the future.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 19:04
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Why would you install a GPS and not tell her?
Instead of going behind her back, why didn't you just come right out and ask her first?
Now you have installed a huge barrier between your family and her and any successful communication techniques will most likely fall by the waste side.
Instead of going behind her back, why didn't you just come right out and ask her first?
Now you have installed a huge barrier between your family and her and any successful communication techniques will most likely fall by the waste side.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 19:00
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:We hired our first nanny three months ago. In general, we're happy with her-- the kids like her, she does light housekeeping and cooking, and she will run errands. She uses our car to transport the children, and after much fretting and concern about excessive miles on the car, I installed a GPS device. Lately, she's been in the habit of stopping by her house after dropping our older son off at school. Sometimes, it's just 15 minutes, sometimes it's as long as an hour. She keeps a log of the daily activities, and never mentions this. Do I just ignore this? Is this as good as it gets? Can I find someone more reliable and trustworthy behind door number two?
This is real life Silly...NOT a game show.
Okay Wayne Brady, Let's Make a Deal.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 16:35
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh really? So the gps wasn't installed to control where she was going?
Are you really this stupid? Do you know how a GPS works?
very classy!
Anonymous
11/12/2013 16:29
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:But then she has the right to know she is being watched and controlled!
When you are caring for an infant who cannot speak up for itself and is in the eyes of its parents more precious to them than their own lives you should probably expect a decent element of being accountable as the normal part of the job. This is not being controlled. And as for being watched the OP did not suggest she had a nanny cam but every nanny could expect to have the parents stop by at random time, run into a family friend or relative out on the street or at a play ground. If you have nothing to hide and generally do your job well these people "watching" you should not be a problem - if it is then I suspect you have chosen the wrong profession.
Anonymous
11/12/2013 16:29
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:Oh really? So the gps wasn't installed to control where she was going?
Are you really this stupid? Do you know how a GPS works?
Anonymous
11/12/2013 16:21
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Oh really? So the gps wasn't installed to control where she was going?
Anonymous
11/12/2013 16:19
Subject: Nanny using our car to visit her house with the baby during the day
Anonymous wrote:But then she has the right to know she is being watched and controlled!
A GPS does neither of these things.