What kind of a loser lives in the US for 10 years and doesn't learn English??? I moved to France for a summer and came home speaking French. Seriously, your nanny doesn't sound very smart.

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One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.



Wow, your lack of logic and liberal use of wide sweeping generalizations makes me doubt you're above average in anything.



I think what she was trying to say is...

If the average MB pays $15/hr to her nanny...
And the average MB has complaints about her nanny...
Then a $15/hr nanny is, on average, not one of the better ones.

I agree with that much. I spend a lot of time with a lot of nannies and there are only a handful I respect and those women are all paid $20+/hr - they are above average nannies for an above average rate.

I don't think you're doing much better than the poster you are attempting to interpret.

You are using the word 'average' wrong because you are comparing two different populations. The 'average' rate for nannies for one child in the DC are is $15/hr, true. You have no idea how many MBs who pay that rate are happy or not happy with their nannies. You do know that there are MBs here who complain about their nannies. They come from all over the country (remember, this isn't a DC based forum anymore.) You have no idea if these MBs are paying $8/hr or $15/hr or $25/hr unless they mention it in their OP. (I can think of at least three active threads complaining about nannies where the OP *did* mention paying more than $15/hr for their nanny, but this is not critical to the point.)

So, see, you are talking about two different populations, using the term average to try and compare things that are not comparable, and calling that a logical relationship.

It isn't. You're wrong and wide seeping generalizer above you is wrong.

Secondly, the "handful" of nannies you respect are not above average because you respect them. Perhaps you respect them because they make $20/hr, but that doesn't make them above average nannies either.

Nannies can go on and on about why they think they are above average. But there is really no objective measure of that. You are only above average to the family who employs you. Your so called above average skills could merely be average to your next employer with different needs. Every family has different needs and every market area is different, which is why, in DC anyway, you can find a great nanny from $13/hr- $20/hr.

Has OP ever come back?

OP, do you want a nanny who will speak Russian to your children? I know that it can be difficult for bilingual parents to raise bilingual children, and if that is a priority then the other sacrifices might be worth it.

If, however, this is not a priority for you, then your nanny should be compared to the entire pool of available nannies, not just the Russian speaking ones. In that case, you can definitely find a much better match.

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Anonymous wrote:

One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.

Wow, your lack of logic and liberal use of wide sweeping generalizations makes me doubt you're above average in anything.

Just because someone says something you don't agree with even though it is true does not make for a lack of logic and sweeping generalizations. Don't feel bad if you can't afford a great professional nanny; money isn't everything.

Wow, if YOU agree with that generalization, it certainly does not make it true. And there is no need to be condescending to the PP!

I am an MB. Our first nanny we paid $24 per hour and ended up firing her. She just simply did not relate to my child as I was hoping she would. She was after the money mainly and she marketed herself well. We now have a nanny whom we LOVE. My son is growing up healthy, happy, and well developed which I am thankful to her for. Oh, and she helps keep our house in order. I just love coming home to a clean house with happy kids. Guess what, she asked for $15 hour plus standard benefits. She is not about self marketing like our first nanny was but more so about work. She is definitely getting a big raise as we are approaching our one year mark

Anonymous wrote:

One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.

Wow, your lack of logic and liberal use of wide sweeping generalizations makes me doubt you're above average in anything.

Just because someone says something you don't agree with even though it is true does not make for a lack of logic and sweeping generalizations. Don't feel bad if you can't afford a great professional nanny; money isn't everything.

Anonymous wrote:

One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.

Wow, your lack of logic and liberal use of wide sweeping generalizations makes me doubt you're above average in anything.

I think what she was trying to say is...

If the average MB pays $15/hr to her nanny...
And the average MB has complaints about her nanny...
Then a $15/hr nanny is, on average, not one of the better ones.

I agree with that much. I spend a lot of time with a lot of nannies and there are only a handful I respect and those women are all paid $20+/hr - they are above average nannies for an above average rate.

One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.

Wow, your lack of logic and liberal use of wide sweeping generalizations makes me doubt you're above average in anything.

Sounds like you need a new nanny.

I don't drive, but I am very straightforward about that when I contact families and I ask upfront if that is an issue (and don't even approach families that specifically say anything about driving unless that it's not required). Not all families need drivers (one I recently interviewed with said she doesn't trust others with driving her kids), but for others it's a deal breaker.

You need to worry about your needs, OP, and it is obvious that your nanny doesn't fit your needs.

Rephrase please....

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Anonymous wrote:The OP is not cheap. $17/hr for one toddler is a great rate.

She just has a nanny who is way more high maintenance than she's worth.

Professional nannies who are used to earning 25/hr would not think that 17 is so great.

Here we go again not many nannies make this kind of rate for one child

Can't you read English? No one said that "many nannies" earn high rates. FYI, many nannies earn average rates. Above average nannies earn above average wages. Below average nannies earn below average wages. The exception of course are the parents who don't know what they're doing. Yes, it's basically that simply, just like in your profession.

*simple

First, just like in my profession, who can market themselves well earn above average wages. Your wages are not directly correlated with your output/performance. The same I found to be true with nannies and it has been discussed many times on this forum
In addition, perhaps it is you who should work on your English/logical skills (not mentioning your written presentation). Who cares what a tiny segment making $25/hour thinks of that rate? It is a ti
ny segment. As a number of PPs pointed out, one could find a number of wonderful qualified nannies for that rate

One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.

Thanks for your comment. Just curious, do not you think that the reason those MBs do not complain is because they do not have time and not because there is nothing to complain about?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP is not cheap. $17/hr for one toddler is a great rate.

She just has a nanny who is way more high maintenance than she's worth.

Professional nannies who are used to earning 25/hr would not think that 17 is so great.

Here we go again not many nannies make this kind of rate for one child

Can't you read English? No one said that "many nannies" earn high rates. FYI, many nannies earn average rates. Above average nannies earn above average wages. Below average nannies earn below average wages. The exception of course are the parents who don't know what they're doing. Yes, it's basically that simply, just like in your profession.

*simple

First, just like in my profession, who can market themselves well earn above average wages. Your wages are not directly correlated with your output/performance. The same I found to be true with nannies and it has been discussed many times on this forum
In addition, perhaps it is you who should work on your English/logical skills (not mentioning your written presentation). Who cares what a tiny segment making $25/hour thinks of that rate? It is a ti
ny segment. As a number of PPs pointed out, one could find a number of wonderful qualified nannies for that rate

One must acknowledge the obvious correlation of most (not all) MBs on this forum who say they pay about $15./hr. vs. the majority of MBs who have endless complaints and problems with their bargain nannies. It has also been pointed out that presumably the MBs who can afford to pay $25./hr. have little spare time to be on this forum. They are most likely earning those $$$. They are the happier MBs with not much to bitch about. Hence, they get the superior service they pay for.

If I could pay and be a moderator on this forum, I would. Just so I could block the idiotic "$25 an hour" nanny.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP is not cheap. $17/hr for one toddler is a great rate.

She just has a nanny who is way more high maintenance than she's worth.

Professional nannies who are used to earning 25/hr would not think that 17 is so great.

Here we go again not many nannies make this kind of rate for one child

Can't you read English? No one said that "many nannies" earn high rates. FYI, many nannies earn average rates. Above average nannies earn above average wages. Below average nannies earn below average wages. The exception of course are the parents who don't know what they're doing. Yes, it's basically that simply, just like in your profession.

*simple

First, just like in my profession, who can market themselves well earn above average wages. Your wages are not directly correlated with your output/performance. The same I found to be true with nannies and it has been discussed many times on this forum
In addition, perhaps it is you who should work on your English/logical skills (not mentioning your written presentation). Who cares what a tiny segment making $25/hour thinks of that rate? It is a tiny segment. As a number of PPs pointed out, one could find a number of wonderful qualified nannies for that rate

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP is not cheap. $17/hr for one toddler is a great rate.

She just has a nanny who is way more high maintenance than she's worth.

Professional nannies who are used to earning 25/hr would not think that 17 is so great.

Here we go again not many nannies make this kind of rate for one child

Can't you read English? No one said that "many nannies" earn high rates. FYI, many nannies earn average rates. Above average nannies earn above average wages. Below average nannies earn below average wages. The exception of course are the parents who don't know what they're doing. Yes, it's basically that simply, just like in your profession.

*simple