Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between a practical requirement and desirable requirement. For example, a nanny accepting a job that doesn't offer PTO is not be desirable to the nanny but it is a practical requirement because its clear whether she is able to work or not.

A requirement that a nanny will not work with a contagious sick child is not a practical requirement because its often not clear whether the child is sick with something contagious or not. The OP is increasing her chances for getting ill by doing childcare. She will be exposed to many things long before the child exhibits symptoms. She's either lying about being concerned about catching something and just never wants to deal with a sick kid or she's an idiot. It just makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I work part-time for a SAHM with three young children. My agreement is a little bit different from most, I don't care or work with sick children for several reasons. One being I am a full time student, and the other is that I have a family member who has a suppressed immune system. I made it very clear when interviewing. MB/DB agreed, and said it would be easy since she stays at home most of the time. I know it's not optimal for most families, but it's what was agreed upon. I don't mind when the kids have a cold, ear infection ect...but something really contagious like strep, flu, stomach virus I just can't risk. I usually come in around 6, and stay the night to help care for the infant. I can get paid and get sleep, it's a great arrangement. I just get the kids ready for bed, and then the rest of the night I sleep and get up with the baby when I need to. I came in Thursday and MB left saying she had to go on some errands, and then not 30 minutes passed and the two-year-old was throwing up. The 4-year-old tell me he's been sick all day, and she never told me! I called MB and she said it was just something he ate, but he was running a low grade fever. I was pretty upset, mostly because she never told me he had been sick. She arrived home after they had gone to bed. She asked me to stay, since she was going to be up with the two-year-old and I agreed since I've already been exposed. Of course the 4-year-old started getting sick around midnight, it was obviously a stomach flu. I know shit happens, and I feel bad. However, it was agreed by all parties that I did not work with sick children. I really rather her find someone else, then lie and break our agreement. It put me in a bad position this weekend, I can't go home so I have to stay at MB house as to not expose my family member. Should I bring it up, or just cast it off as a one time event?

OP was pretty clear, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that when two kids are vomiting, it is clearly a case of a bug...not too much milk or excitement or whatever other excuse MB could come up with. MB did lie.

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Anonymous wrote:I work part-time for a SAHM with three young children. My agreement is a little bit different from most, I don't care or work with sick children for several reasons. One being I am a full time student, and the other is that I have a family member who has a suppressed immune system. I made it very clear when interviewing. MB/DB agreed, and said it would be easy since she stays at home most of the time. I know it's not optimal for most families, but it's what was agreed upon. I don't mind when the kids have a cold, ear infection ect...but something really contagious like strep, flu, stomach virus I just can't risk. I usually come in around 6, and stay the night to help care for the infant. I can get paid and get sleep, it's a great arrangement. I just get the kids ready for bed, and then the rest of the night I sleep and get up with the baby when I need to. I came in Thursday and MB left saying she had to go on some errands, and then not 30 minutes passed and the two-year-old was throwing up. The 4-year-old tell me he's been sick all day, and she never told me! I called MB and she said it was just something he ate, but he was running a low grade fever. I was pretty upset, mostly because she never told me he had been sick. She arrived home after they had gone to bed. She asked me to stay, since she was going to be up with the two-year-old and I agreed since I've already been exposed. Of course the 4-year-old started getting sick around midnight, it was obviously a stomach flu. I know shit happens, and I feel bad. However, it was agreed by all parties that I did not work with sick children. I really rather her find someone else, then lie and break our agreement. It put me in a bad position this weekend, I can't go home so I have to stay at MB house as to not expose my family member. Should I bring it up, or just cast it off as a one time event?

OP was pretty clear, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that when two kids are vomiting, it is clearly a case of a bug...not too much milk or excitement or whatever other excuse MB could come up with. MB did lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Posters are trying to point out that this requirement isn't practical and doesn't even address OP's concern. She shouldn't be working in childcare. Sure, babysitting is easy money but she'll have to find a different job if she doesn't want to be around sick kids.

First, sick is subjective and depending on the child may be less noticeable or change quickly. Its common for kids to look and feel fine during the day and then become sicker in the evening. Anyone with small kids is aware of the evening mystery fever. You keep the kids home because they were running a fever a night before, during the day they are fine and running around, and then once 7pm hits the fever is back and they feel lousy. My nanny thought we were nuts because I'd ask her to keep DC in because he had a fever and to her he looked perfectly fine.

The requirement may not be practical but neither are a lot of things employers fail to offer or require of nannies when reaching an agreement. It's not practical to offer no paid sick days, but some nannies stupidly agree to the arrangement. Is that the employers problem? The consensus has always been no. Said employer may be a crappy person, and in this case this may be a lazy or high maintenance nanny, but the MB agreed nonetheless.

+1000

Exactly.

MB agreed to certain terms and then backpedaled and lied to change said terms. That is unacceptable, no matter how unreasonable one believes the terms to be. If MB is unhappy with her nanny's boundaries then she needs to say so. If she's not unhappy, she needs to respect them.

I basically agree that the mom needs to be bound by the terms she negotiated. However, you are all making a critical assumption that the MB is lying. Why are you so sure that she didn't believe it was a food reaction rather than sickness? My DD vomited last night after being fine all day yesterday, fine five minutes after the episode, and fine all day today. I think it was caused by eating a huge meal followed by a ridiculous amount of milk and too much activity. If someone asked me whether she is sick I would say no without hesitation.

Anonymous wrote:I work part-time for a SAHM with three young children. My agreement is a little bit different from most, I don't care or work with sick children for several reasons. One being I am a full time student, and the other is that I have a family member who has a suppressed immune system. I made it very clear when interviewing. MB/DB agreed, and said it would be easy since she stays at home most of the time. I know it's not optimal for most families, but it's what was agreed upon. I don't mind when the kids have a cold, ear infection ect...but something really contagious like strep, flu, stomach virus I just can't risk. I usually come in around 6, and stay the night to help care for the infant. I can get paid and get sleep, it's a great arrangement. I just get the kids ready for bed, and then the rest of the night I sleep and get up with the baby when I need to. I came in Thursday and MB left saying she had to go on some errands, and then not 30 minutes passed and the two-year-old was throwing up. The 4-year-old tell me he's been sick all day, and she never told me! I called MB and she said it was just something he ate, but he was running a low grade fever. I was pretty upset, mostly because she never told me he had been sick. She arrived home after they had gone to bed. She asked me to stay, since she was going to be up with the two-year-old and I agreed since I've already been exposed. Of course the 4-year-old started getting sick around midnight, it was obviously a stomach flu. I know shit happens, and I feel bad. However, it was agreed by all parties that I did not work with sick children. I really rather her find someone else, then lie and break our agreement. It put me in a bad position this weekend, I can't go home so I have to stay at MB house as to not expose my family member. Should I bring it up, or just cast it off as a one time event?

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Anonymous wrote:Posters are trying to point out that this requirement isn't practical and doesn't even address OP's concern. She shouldn't be working in childcare. Sure, babysitting is easy money but she'll have to find a different job if she doesn't want to be around sick kids.

First, sick is subjective and depending on the child may be less noticeable or change quickly. Its common for kids to look and feel fine during the day and then become sicker in the evening. Anyone with small kids is aware of the evening mystery fever. You keep the kids home because they were running a fever a night before, during the day they are fine and running around, and then once 7pm hits the fever is back and they feel lousy. My nanny thought we were nuts because I'd ask her to keep DC in because he had a fever and to her he looked perfectly fine.

The requirement may not be practical but neither are a lot of things employers fail to offer or require of nannies when reaching an agreement. It's not practical to offer no paid sick days, but some nannies stupidly agree to the arrangement. Is that the employers problem? The consensus has always been no. Said employer may be a crappy person, and in this case this may be a lazy or high maintenance nanny, but the MB agreed nonetheless.

+1000

Exactly.

MB agreed to certain terms and then backpedaled and lied to change said terms. That is unacceptable, no matter how unreasonable one believes the terms to be. If MB is unhappy with her nanny's boundaries then she needs to say so. If she's not unhappy, she needs to respect them.

I basically agree that the mom needs to be bound by the terms she negotiated. However, you are all making a critical assumption that the MB is lying. Why are you so sure that she didn't believe it was a food reaction rather than sickness? My DD vomited last night after being fine all day yesterday, fine five minutes after the episode, and fine all day today. I think it was caused by eating a huge meal followed by a ridiculous amount of milk and too much activity. If someone asked me whether she is sick I would say no without hesitation.

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Anonymous wrote:Posters are trying to point out that this requirement isn't practical and doesn't even address OP's concern. She shouldn't be working in childcare. Sure, babysitting is easy money but she'll have to find a different job if she doesn't want to be around sick kids.

First, sick is subjective and depending on the child may be less noticeable or change quickly. Its common for kids to look and feel fine during the day and then become sicker in the evening. Anyone with small kids is aware of the evening mystery fever. You keep the kids home because they were running a fever a night before, during the day they are fine and running around, and then once 7pm hits the fever is back and they feel lousy. My nanny thought we were nuts because I'd ask her to keep DC in because he had a fever and to her he looked perfectly fine.

The requirement may not be practical but neither are a lot of things employers fail to offer or require of nannies when reaching an agreement. It's not practical to offer no paid sick days, but some nannies stupidly agree to the arrangement. Is that the employers problem? The consensus has always been no. Said employer may be a crappy person, and in this case this may be a lazy or high maintenance nanny, but the MB agreed nonetheless.

+1000

Exactly.

MB agreed to certain terms and then backpedaled and lied to change said terms. That is unacceptable, no matter how unreasonable one believes the terms to be. If MB is unhappy with her nanny's boundaries then she needs to say so. If she's not unhappy, she needs to respect them.

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Anonymous wrote:Posters are trying to point out that this requirement isn't practical and doesn't even address OP's concern. She shouldn't be working in childcare. Sure, babysitting is easy money but she'll have to find a different job if she doesn't want to be around sick kids.

First, sick is subjective and depending on the child may be less noticeable or change quickly. Its common for kids to look and feel fine during the day and then become sicker in the evening. Anyone with small kids is aware of the evening mystery fever. You keep the kids home because they were running a fever a night before, during the day they are fine and running around, and then once 7pm hits the fever is back and they feel lousy. My nanny thought we were nuts because I'd ask her to keep DC in because he had a fever and to her he looked perfectly fine.

The requirement may not be practical but neither are a lot of things employers fail to offer or require of nannies when reaching an agreement. It's not practical to offer no paid sick days, but some nannies stupidly agree to the arrangement. Is that the employers problem? The consensus has always been no. Said employer may be a crappy person, and in this case this may be a lazy or high maintenance nanny, but the MB agreed nonetheless.

Anonymous wrote:Posters are trying to point out that this requirement isn't practical and doesn't even address OP's concern. She shouldn't be working in childcare. Sure, babysitting is easy money but she'll have to find a different job if she doesn't want to be around sick kids.

First, sick is subjective and depending on the child may be less noticeable or change quickly. Its common for kids to look and feel fine during the day and then become sicker in the evening. Anyone with small kids is aware of the evening mystery fever. You keep the kids home because they were running a fever a night before, during the day they are fine and running around, and then once 7pm hits the fever is back and they feel lousy. My nanny thought we were nuts because I'd ask her to keep DC in because he had a fever and to her he looked perfectly fine.