Anonymous wrote:Let me just say ...
I asked a question...
I did not say ANYTHING about cleaning! I think maybe two people answered my question. Fight somewhere else please! This is a forum to help people and get your questions answered isn't it!!?

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Anonymous wrote:No clear thinking nanny would agree to "keep herself busy" all day, except for "a meal break", unless she was an immigrant, maybe. Be honest, people.

I guess I just don't get this thinking. I'm busy at my job all day, except for a meal break (usually) When I worked lower paid, hourly jobs, I was busy at them all day. When I moved on to a salaried position, I'm busy at it all day. Again, negotiate the job you want, but I'm not going to apologize for offering a well paying job with benefits, PTO, vacation, health care, etc etc that happens to require the person in it to be actually working for 6.5-7 out of 8 hours.

And before anyone goes there, keeping busy doesn't mean scrubbing toilets. It can be reading to a child, going to the park, planning craft activities. But it can also be unloading the dishwasher or folding a load of laundry. The point is, my nanny doesn't think of down time as her time. It's work time. And that attitude is what makes her a great employee.

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Anonymous wrote:No clear thinking nanny would agree to "keep herself busy" all day, except for "a meal break", unless she was an immigrant, maybe. Be honest, people.

I guess I just don't get this thinking. I'm busy at my job all day, except for a meal break (usually) When I worked lower paid, hourly jobs, I was busy at them all day. When I moved on to a salaried position, I'm busy at it all day. Again, negotiate the job you want, but I'm not going to apologize for offering a well paying job with benefits, PTO, vacation, health care, etc etc that happens to require the person in it to be actually working for 6.5-7 out of 8 hours.

Anonymous wrote:No clear thinking nanny would agree to "keep herself busy" all day, except for "a meal break", unless she was an immigrant, maybe. Be honest, people.

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I do light housekeeping for my employers very happily. I also do it very quickly and efficiently and end up still getting to enjoy a good stretch of downtime during most days. If the toddler naps for 3 hours and I get everything done in 45 minutes, I do enjoy that extra time to rest, call Comcast (which is becoming a weekly event at our house), clean up my inbox, and so on. If the only acceptable alternative for my MB is to add odd jobs to my list or to do my assigned tasks more slowly so no one feels "cheated," I'll move on to a different position.

This is fine and NOT what MBs are talking about or what the nap time is my time poster wants. The nap time is my time poster does not want to work quickly. She wants no tasks so she gets the entire nap time and no work. There also is the problem of nannies who try to pretend that they are spending 15 hours a week sorting winter/summer seasonal clothes so they can't do laundry or meal prep.

If you can get your light housekeeping tasks (which actually are light housekeeping tasks) done in 45 minutes because you work fast, more power to you! Its the do nothing types that moms avoid not high energy people who work efficiently.

Who said this?? I think what myself and most of the nannies posting take issue with is the desire by some MBs to fill any and all down time with something, with no concern for the fact that this was not the original agreement and is not reflected in her rate. I do baby laundry during nap times as well as meal prep. I also have close to 2 hours of down time depending on the day. It is unreasonable to suggest that because there is more than 1 hour of downtime I should start doing things I don't get paid to do, or even agreed to do. If my boss suddenly asked me to do their laundry or cooking or whatever, no rate adjustment, I'd have a big problem with that.

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I do light housekeeping for my employers very happily. I also do it very quickly and efficiently and end up still getting to enjoy a good stretch of downtime during most days. If the toddler naps for 3 hours and I get everything done in 45 minutes, I do enjoy that extra time to rest, call Comcast (which is becoming a weekly event at our house), clean up my inbox, and so on. If the only acceptable alternative for my MB is to add odd jobs to my list or to do my assigned tasks more slowly so no one feels "cheated," I'll move on to a different position.

This is fine and NOT what MBs are talking about or what the nap time is my time poster wants. The nap time is my time poster does not want to work quickly. She wants no tasks so she gets the entire nap time and no work. There also is the problem of nannies who try to pretend that they are spending 15 hours a week sorting winter/summer seasonal clothes so they can't do laundry or meal prep.

If you can get your light housekeeping tasks (which actually are light housekeeping tasks) done in 45 minutes because you work fast, more power to you! Its the do nothing types that moms avoid not high energy people who work efficiently.

Who said this?? I think what myself and most of the nannies posting take issue with is the desire by some MBs to fill any and all down time with something, with no concern for the fact that this was not the original agreement and is not reflected in her rate. I do baby laundry during nap times as well as meal prep. I also have close to 2 hours of down time depending on the day. It is unreasonable to suggest that because there is more than 1 hour of downtime I should start doing things I don't get paid to do, or even agreed to do. If my boss suddenly asked me to do their laundry or cooking or whatever, no rate adjustment, I'd have a big problem with that.

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I do light housekeeping for my employers very happily. I also do it very quickly and efficiently and end up still getting to enjoy a good stretch of downtime during most days. If the toddler naps for 3 hours and I get everything done in 45 minutes, I do enjoy that extra time to rest, call Comcast (which is becoming a weekly event at our house), clean up my inbox, and so on. If the only acceptable alternative for my MB is to add odd jobs to my list or to do my assigned tasks more slowly so no one feels "cheated," I'll move on to a different position.

This is fine and NOT what MBs are talking about or what the nap time is my time poster wants. The nap time is my time poster does not want to work quickly. She wants no tasks so she gets the entire nap time and no work. There also is the problem of nannies who try to pretend that they are spending 15 hours a week sorting winter/summer seasonal clothes so they can't do laundry or meal prep.

If you can get your light housekeeping tasks (which actually are light housekeeping tasks) done in 45 minutes because you work fast, more power to you! Its the do nothing types that moms avoid not high energy people who work efficiently.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you chose the role of working mother. Unless it is mutually agreed upon, why would it be your nanny's responsibility to do your chores?

Were you responding to me (the one who talked about my nanny getting more breaks than me)? If so, then I didn't mean to imply it was her responsibility at all. I wrote her job description to include no housekeeping other than cleaning up after her and my DC's daily activities. I was simply pointing out that the occasional assumption on here that MBs ask nannies to go far and above what they ask of themselves is hardly a universal fact. Some of us think that our children's nannies are there to do childcare during their assigned hours and prefer to run our own households. So when all the nannies complain about lazy MBs and all the loads of chores piled on them, those of us who aren't lazy MBs might feel a little unfairly skewered. I work darned hard to keep my house running as well as to keep my nanny happy.

Person A is saying that they are entitled to four hour breaks at their job
Person B is saying that a person at a job should generally be working

You are calling person B lazy?

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I do light housekeeping for my employers very happily. I also do it very quickly and efficiently and end up still getting to enjoy a good stretch of downtime during most days. If the toddler naps for 3 hours and I get everything done in 45 minutes, I do enjoy that extra time to rest, call Comcast (which is becoming a weekly event at our house), clean up my inbox, and so on. If the only acceptable alternative for my MB is to add odd jobs to my list or to do my assigned tasks more slowly so no one feels "cheated," I'll move on to a different position.

This is fine and NOT what MBs are talking about or what the nap time is my time poster wants. The nap time is my time poster does not want to work quickly. She wants no tasks so she gets the entire nap time and no work. There also is the problem of nannies who try to pretend that they are spending 15 hours a week sorting winter/summer seasonal clothes so they can't do laundry or meal prep.

If you can get your light housekeeping tasks (which actually are light housekeeping tasks) done in 45 minutes because you work fast, more power to you! Its the do nothing types that moms avoid not high energy people who work efficiently.

I do light housekeeping for my employers very happily. I also do it very quickly and efficiently and end up still getting to enjoy a good stretch of downtime during most days. If the toddler naps for 3 hours and I get everything done in 45 minutes, I do enjoy that extra time to rest, call Comcast (which is becoming a weekly event at our house), clean up my inbox, and so on. If the only acceptable alternative for my MB is to add odd jobs to my list or to do my assigned tasks more slowly so no one feels "cheated," I'll move on to a different position.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you chose the role of working mother. Unless it is mutually agreed upon, why would it be your nanny's responsibility to do your chores?

Were you responding to me (the one who talked about my nanny getting more breaks than me)? If so, then I didn't mean to imply it was her responsibility at all. I wrote her job description to include no housekeeping other than cleaning up after her and my DC's daily activities. I was simply pointing out that the occasional assumption on here that MBs ask nannies to go far and above what they ask of themselves is hardly a universal fact. Some of us think that our children's nannies are there to do childcare during their assigned hours and prefer to run our own households. So when all the nannies complain about lazy MBs and all the loads of chores piled on them, those of us who aren't lazy MBs might feel a little unfairly skewered. I work darned hard to keep my house running as well as to keep my nanny happy.

Person A is saying that they are entitled to four hour breaks at their job
Person B is saying that a person at a job should generally be working

You are calling person B lazy?

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you chose the role of working mother. Unless it is mutually agreed upon, why would it be your nanny's responsibility to do your chores?

Were you responding to me (the one who talked about my nanny getting more breaks than me)? If so, then I didn't mean to imply it was her responsibility at all. I wrote her job description to include no housekeeping other than cleaning up after her and my DC's daily activities. I was simply pointing out that the occasional assumption on here that MBs ask nannies to go far and above what they ask of themselves is hardly a universal fact. Some of us think that our children's nannies are there to do childcare during their assigned hours and prefer to run our own households. So when all the nannies complain about lazy MBs and all the loads of chores piled on them, those of us who aren't lazy MBs might feel a little unfairly skewered. I work darned hard to keep my house running as well as to keep my nanny happy.