Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has it been reported if she immigrated legally?

At the time of the murders it was reported that she was here legally and legally able to work.

It does not change the fact that she was clearly a cheaper option than, say, a college-educated, American-born nanny, but I don't think it's fair to blame the parents for that. Perhaps they wanted their kids exposed to another language or culture, perhaps the other nannies they knew from Ortega's country had a particular warmth or passion for cooking that they were eager to get in a nanny. We just don't know, and it's awfully cruel to be saying they should have known better.

This is ridiculus!!! There are some amazing foreign nannies that are more loving than a "college-educated, American-born nanny" and there are some TERRIBLE "college-educated, American-born nannies".

How extremely callous are you to say that they chose a subpar option JUST BECAUSE the nanny is from another country????

I said she was CHEAPER, not "subpar"! I also said there were lots of reasons to choose a nanny from another country - warmth, cooking, language! READ THOROUGHLY BEFORE YOU ATTACK ME PLEASE.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has it been reported if she immigrated legally?

At the time of the murders it was reported that she was here legally and legally able to work.

It does not change the fact that she was clearly a cheaper option than, say, a college-educated, American-born nanny, but I don't think it's fair to blame the parents for that. Perhaps they wanted their kids exposed to another language or culture, perhaps the other nannies they knew from Ortega's country had a particular warmth or passion for cooking that they were eager to get in a nanny. We just don't know, and it's awfully cruel to be saying they should have known better.

This is ridiculus!!! There are some amazing foreign nannies that are more loving than a "college-educated, American-born nanny" and there are some TERRIBLE "college-educated, American-born nannies".

How extremely callous are you to say that they chose a subpar option JUST BECAUSE the nanny is from another country????

Anonymous wrote:Why would you assume the PP is being cheap with her own childcare, 21:58?

No one said that. Stop being defensive.

Why would you assume the PP is being cheap with her own childcare, 21:58?

Anonymous wrote:You are disgusting, 16:53.

Nope. 16:53 is correct. Being cheap with childcare is hurting your child. The truth hurts.

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The purpose of this thread is in no way meant to engage in a "blame game". On the contrary, most of us desire to learn something here. Otherwise, tragic events like this, are certain to repeat themselves.

As I said earlier, if I, as the parent, am not responsible for my young child's basic safety, who is?

As parents, most of us acknowledge some degree of responsibility for our young children. As each child matures, the scope of that responsibility evolves. To a large extent, our financial resources dictate what kind of care and education our children will receive.

While the death or neglect, of every child is an outrage, the more wealthy the family, the more sensational the news.

It seems that such families of extreme wealth are held to a higher standard. Everyone expects these children to be given the best of everything. It is simply unfathomable to most of us, that even when 'money is no object', these children paid the ultimate price.

We are all asking, why? Why do parents, who will no doubt pay for the finest schooling (money can buy), resort to immigrant child care? Their immigrant nanny's command of English was so poor, that she required an interpreter at her court hearing.

I fail to understand why so many well-to-do American parents are hiring immigrant nannies with broken English. Early childhood is the time to have only perfect language spoken to your child, for we all know that young children learn primarily through imitation. Speech therapy for children has become a booming business, for obvious reasons.

Well-said.

I agree.

I don't want to contribute to a discussion where we blame these poor parents, so maybe this discussion should have its own thread separate from this particular tragedy, but wherever it's being said... it remains true.

Anonymous wrote:You are disgusting, 16:53.

Some of us find certain parental choices to be disgusting.

You are disgusting, 16:53.

I cringe every time I chat up an immigrant nanny, with her pathetically painful English, as she pushes her charge in a $1,000. designer stroller. It's a blatant reminder of where so many American parents, have their priorities.

Anonymous wrote:We can only imagine the pain of those poor parents. Yes, they are now forever poor, no matter how much money they have. These poor children can never be brought back to life. My heart goes out to them all.

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Anonymous wrote:

The purpose of this thread is in no way meant to engage in a "blame game". On the contrary, most of us desire to learn something here. Otherwise, tragic events like this, are certain to repeat themselves.

As I said earlier, if I, as the parent, am not responsible for my young child's basic safety, who is?

As parents, most of us acknowledge some degree of responsibility for our young children. As each child matures, the scope of that responsibility evolves. To a large extent, our financial resources dictate what kind of care and education our children will receive.

While the death or neglect, of every child is an outrage, the
more wealthy the family, the more sensational the news.

It seems that such families of extreme wealth are held to a higher standard. Everyone expects these children to be given the best of everything. It is simply unfathomable to most of us, that even when 'money is no object', these children paid the ultimate price.

We are all asking, why? Why do parents, who will no doubt pay for the finest schooling (money can buy), resort to immigrant child care? Their immigrant nanny's command of English was so poor, that she required an interpreter at her court hearing.

I fail to understand why so many well-to-do American parents are hiring immigrant nannies with broken English. Early childhood is the time to have only perfect language spoken to your child, for we all know that young children learn primarily through imitation. Speech therapy for children has become a booming business, for obvious reasons.

Well-said.

We can only imagine the pain of those poor parents. Yes, they are now forever poor, no matter how much money they have. These poor children can never be brought back to life. My heart goes out to them all.

The purpose of this thread is in no way meant to engage in a "blame game". On the contrary, most of us desire to learn something here. Otherwise, tragic events like this, are certain to repeat themselves.

As I said earlier, if I, as the parent, am not responsible for my young child's basic safety, who is?

As parents, most of us acknowledge some degree of responsibility for our young children. As each child matures, the scope of that responsibility evolves. To a large extent, our financial resources dictate what kind of care and education our children will receive.

While the death or neglect, of every child is an outrage, the
more wealthy the family, the more sensational the news.

It seems that such families of extreme wealth are held to a higher standard. Everyone expects these children to be given the best of everything. It is simply unfathomable to most of us, that even when 'money is no object', these children paid the ultimate price.

We are all asking, why? Why do parents, who will no doubt pay for the finest schooling (money can buy), resort to immigrant child care? Their immigrant nanny's command of English was so poor, that she required an interpreter at her court hearing.

I fail to understand why so many well-to-do American parents are hiring immigrant nannies with broken English. Early childhood is the time to have only perfect language spoken to your child, for we all know that young children learn primarily through imitation. Speech therapy for children has become a booming business, for obvious reasons.

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If I, the parent, am not ultimately responsible for my young child's basic safety, who is?

Well said! If parents saw nanny was disgruntled because of pay, fire her and hire someone happy to keep your children safe and sound. When you hire your nanny, you should be looking for the absolute best care you can afford. Why pick someone on "sale" knowing they are defected, when you can easily pay for the safest, happiest, best version to care of your precious babies? Would you choose a car seat that is showing signs of breaking, only because its cheap? Or will you get the best safest seat you can afford to protect the life of your children.

If I, the parent, am not ultimately responsible for my young child's basic safety, who is?