Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no excuse for a parent to be 15 minutes late, either. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Nannies should start charging $1.00/minute late charge and you would damn well get home on time. For this, you can be late every damn day

You should definitely try that. Let us know how long before you get fired.

There is absolutely no excuse for a parent to be 15 minutes late, either. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Nannies should start charging $1.00/minute late charge and you would damn well get home on time. For this, you can be late every damn day

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No MB is allowed to force me to work overtime unless she has my permission first. Period.

Agree. I am early for work by 10-15 minutes every day yet at least twice a week my bosses come home late. If I'm supposed to be off at 6:00 and they walk in the door at 6:05 and then expect me to sit there and talk about how the day went, it's not right. It goes both ways. Flexibility is important, but employers need to have some respect for their employees and recognize that they may have somewhere to be once their hours are done. And just because you are a few minutes late doesn't mean you don't have to compensate me for my time.

I don't agree that 5 minutes late is a big deal. I know that I like to take a few minutes to talk to my MBs before I leave, even if it isn't about the job but just a few things that we had talked about before. I don't ever expect for them to get home (or when my time is over) and for me to walk right out the door. I know that I generally end up leaving about 10 minutes later than when I get off (sometimes 15 minutes if we really get talking), and so I plan my activities after work with me leaving to be able to get somewhere 15 minutes AFTER when I get off work. I work multiple PT positions where the parents are generally on time so I don't run into ones being late often, but I usually don't plan very important things for right after work anyways. If I end up having to stay an extra 30 minutes, it won't kill me and I will just end up going grocery shopping or whatnot 30 minutes later. As long as I am paid for my time, and they let me know the day before if they will need more for longer than 30 minutes, I am good. I never like being late, even if something happens on my commute, so I make sure I leave a bit early and might spend a few minutes at a cafe or something before work to waste the last few minutes for those times when I can't show up too early.

Thanks, Mommy Dearest.

If you're a nanny who cannot be flexible to stay late with little notice, then you need to let your employers know before you accept the job. A nanny routinely arriving to work late is NOT the same thing as an employer regularly getting home late.

There is absolutely, without a doubt, zero excuse for a nanny to be 15 minutes or more late once a week. That shows she is irresponsible, a poor planner, and not very bright (if you don't learn from the mistake after the first few times it happens, when will you learn?)

And while I'm sure she has bills to pay, she should have considered that before she started slacking on her job. Being on time is a requirement of any job.

OP doesn't owe her anything. Any severance will be generous.

Anonymous wrote:DB can't control a freeway accident, but nanny can??
Anyone can get stuck in traffic, regardless of your job.

18:27 here. I believe that freeway accidents fall under the "unexpected emergency" scenario I mentioned. While not a personal emergency it is unexpected and can't really be avoided. Perhaps I should have specified "unexpected traffic delays" as being included in the acceptable reasons for a nanny to be late on the rare occasion.

Daycare parents who have to pay $1.00 per late minute, figure out how to get their kid on time.

Parents who have problems being late, need to make arrangements with neighbors, in case the nanny has her own evening commitments. Imagine the thought!

Or God forbid, nanny wants to be done after taking care of your kid for 10 or 12 hours.

Anonymous wrote:DB can't control a freeway accident, but nanny can??
Anyone can get stuck in traffic, regardless of your job.

This.

DB can't control a freeway accident, but nanny can??
Anyone can get stuck in traffic, regardless of your job.

Anonymous wrote:17:21, this works both ways.

Are you saying that it's ok for a nanny to be late arriving to work on the off chance her employers might be late arriving home once in awhile? Or are you saying that nanny employers need to be ok with a nanny arriving late to work?

I happen to agree with 17:21. As a nanny I realize that occasionally MB might have a work call that runs late causing me to stay longer. It happens and I just carry on until she is finished and ready to take over with the kids. On days MB is traveling DB tries very hard to allow extra time to get home, but he can't control a last minute meeting with his boss or an accident on the freeway.

I am in no way saying nannies need to be ok with employers who arrive late on a consistent basis. If I had to work late several times a week I would be annoyed, but I would also suggest amending my work hours (and pay) to include what seems to be a regular occurrence or need on my employers part. This does not work in reverse. Barring an unexpected emergency I need to arrive on time. My reliability is part of my employability.

17:21 is insane.

Ha!!

17:21, this works both ways.

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Anonymous wrote:No MB is allowed to force me to work overtime unless she has my permission first. Period.

Agree. I am early for work by 10-15 minutes every day yet at least twice a week my bosses come home late. If I'm supposed to be off at 6:00 and they walk in the door at 6:05 and then expect me to sit there and talk about how the day went, it's not right. It goes both ways. Flexibility is important, but employers need to have some respect for their employees and recognize that they may have somewhere to be once their hours are done. And just because you are a few minutes late doesn't mean you don't have to compensate me for my time.

No argument that you should be paid for your time. Of course you should. If your employer is late and doesn't compensate you, that's an entirely different issue. If we ever run late, we pay OT for the extra time. But just being realistic, nannies should be aware that their bosses may from time to time be a few minutes late getting home due to work running late. Any nanny who thinks this unconscionable is going to be disappointed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No MB is allowed to force me to work overtime unless she has my permission first. Period.

Agree. I am early for work by 10-15 minutes every day yet at least twice a week my bosses come home late. If I'm supposed to be off at 6:00 and they walk in the door at 6:05 and then expect me to sit there and talk about how the day went, it's not right. It goes both ways. Flexibility is important, but employers need to have some respect for their employees and recognize that they may have somewhere to be once their hours are done. And just because you are a few minutes late doesn't mean you don't have to compensate me for my time.

Well said.