Anonymous
Post 08/30/2013 12:42     Subject: Re:When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Verifying prior compensation is common in other industries and just as important for nanny positions. The only ones who object to verification of prior compensation are nannies who aren't really worth their request. A professional nanny has a strong compensation history. A professional nanny who is asking for more than her previous compensation can clearly articulate why in terms of gained experience, education, or job requirements.

Since there is so much variation in nanny compensation packages (pay, vacation, PTO, raises, bonuses) its even more important to verify prior compensation to make sure expectations are managed.

My former employers don't agree with your opinion. If they're ask about my compensation package, they tell you it's too complicated to go into over the phone. My hourly rates are only part of the total package.

*If you ask about...
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2013 12:14     Subject: Re:When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:Verifying prior compensation is common in other industries and just as important for nanny positions. The only ones who object to verification of prior compensation are nannies who aren't really worth their request. A professional nanny has a strong compensation history. A professional nanny who is asking for more than her previous compensation can clearly articulate why in terms of gained experience, education, or job requirements.

Since there is so much variation in nanny compensation packages (pay, vacation, PTO, raises, bonuses) its even more important to verify prior compensation to make sure expectations are managed.

My former employers don't agree with your opinion. If they're ask about my compensation package, they tell you it's too complicated to go into over the phone. My hourly rates are only part of the total package.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2013 12:04     Subject: Re:When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Verifying prior compensation is common in other industries and just as important for nanny positions. The only ones who object to verification of prior compensation are nannies who aren't really worth their request. A professional nanny has a strong compensation history. A professional nanny who is asking for more than her previous compensation can clearly articulate why in terms of gained experience, education, or job requirements.

Since there is so much variation in nanny compensation packages (pay, vacation, PTO, raises, bonuses) its even more important to verify prior compensation to make sure expectations are managed.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2013 09:22     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you ever hear from a former MB that a potential employer candidate, asked about your compensation package, RUN.
Red Flag.
Obvious boundary issues. Next thing she'll be wanting to know what color panties you wear. Just not appropriate in the nanny world even if it is elsewhere.


I don't understand how verifying compensation history is inappropriate. It's appropriate in any employment discussion- you have to provide this info and the potential employer should verify it. If you give me info you don't want me to verify, THAT is a red flag. A nanny like the PP who will argue that a nanny is a "professional" but should be exempt from any standard of any other professional environment is also a red flag.


In other industries its understood that someone with significant experience who has shown longevity at one place of employment rightfully expects to be offered a higher salary than their current one. This is not understood by nanny employers, most of whom have no hiring experience and unfortunately are as cheap as they come. If you ask my references what they paid me they will likely tell you off, then call me immediately to tell me you have boundary issues and are trying to low ball me. Offer what you feel is appropriate for the job, don't base it off her last salary.

+1
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 07:12     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:I love it when nannies sock it back to mother witches. Karma come estly.

Ha, ha. Some MBs are really amazing moms and employers, and some are true nightmares.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2013 22:31     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Dial back your drama, nanny at 22:07. You aren't even making sense.


Anonymous
Post 05/30/2013 22:07     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:Not only did I assume references would call the nanny candidate and talk about me, OP, but frankly, I'd be more concerned about a nanny who *didn't* have a reference who called her back to discuss her impressions of me and my job. That would tell me that the nanny wasn't good enough for her former MBs to have her back.

As for verifying compensation, while it is extremely common in most professional jobs, I don't think it's necessary in the nanny world. When I hired a nanny I researched the market rates in my area and made a competitive offer. I don't think what the candidate made before has any bearing on the present nanny job. There aren't many innovations in the field. A few candidates tried to negotiate for perks and money, but I was clear about what I was looking for. We found a great nanny we value highly.


Let me guess. You are the MB who asked me what my former wnanny as making, I told you $22 an hour, and then you called me BACK to argue with me what the going rate was in Bethesda (you said $14). A family around the corner from me matched our whole comp package, down to the health insurance premiums, for our former nanny, and I happily see her out in the neighborhood all the time.

I do ask about a candidate's salary history, because I don't want you to walk into my house and assume just because it's large that means I should pay you $10 more per hour than your last job where you were making $15 whether you have the experience to justify it or not. If other MBs or nannies think that means I have a boundary problem, I can live with that. I would never hire a candidate without verifying salary history for any job. Conversely, If I hear you have been making $25 an hour, I know I had better not offer you $15. See how that works?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2013 22:17     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

I love it when nannies sock it back to mother witches. Karma come estly.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2013 20:29     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love this thread.


Get a life.

Lighten up.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2013 20:27     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread.


Get a life.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2013 19:21     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Love this thread.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2013 15:42     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Wow. My former employer for 7 years is exactly like that. I love this lady and her 2 kids from the bottom of my heart. I would call her first to let her know that some one will call for reference and she would call me right away to tell me wether this person sounds nice or not. One family I was working with decide to lay me off due to her hours getting cut short and I was given no notice. Was told that a Thursday evening meaning when I leave the Friday I won't return the following week. She was the first person I called and she was mad that she asked me to leave right away. She insist that I do or she will come get me and to my amazement she drove to the house to come get me. Hard to find one like her out there.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2013 13:06     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Oh, I was trying to avoid my former employer. he is trying to reach out to me and I have ignored his requests on line and my number has been changed since I have worked for them. What are your thoughts about keeping in touch.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2013 14:53     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you ever hear from a former MB that a potential employer candidate, asked about your compensation package, RUN.
Red Flag.
Obvious boundary issues. Next thing she'll be wanting to know what color panties you wear. Just not appropriate in the nanny world even if it is elsewhere.


I don't understand how verifying compensation history is inappropriate. It's appropriate in any employment discussion- you have to provide this info and the potential employer should verify it. If you give me info you don't want me to verify, THAT is a red flag. A nanny like the PP who will argue that a nanny is a "professional" but should be exempt from any standard of any other professional environment is also a red flag.


In other industries its understood that someone with significant experience who has shown longevity at one place of employment rightfully expects to be offered a higher salary than their current one. This is not understood by nanny employers, most of whom have no hiring experience and unfortunately are as cheap as they come. If you ask my references what they paid me they will likely tell you off, then call me immediately to tell me you have boundary issues and are trying to low ball me. Offer what you feel is appropriate for the job, don't base it off her last salary.


Because of the unlimited pool of illegals, many MB's get away some very unscrupulous behavior.

Anonymous
Post 02/08/2013 11:45     Subject: When you call my refs..... BEWARE

Not only did I assume references would call the nanny candidate and talk about me, OP, but frankly, I'd be more concerned about a nanny who *didn't* have a reference who called her back to discuss her impressions of me and my job. That would tell me that the nanny wasn't good enough for her former MBs to have her back.

As for verifying compensation, while it is extremely common in most professional jobs, I don't think it's necessary in the nanny world. When I hired a nanny I researched the market rates in my area and made a competitive offer. I don't think what the candidate made before has any bearing on the present nanny job. There aren't many innovations in the field. A few candidates tried to negotiate for perks and money, but I was clear about what I was looking for. We found a great nanny we value highly.