GROW A PAIR!! You need to tell her that this new policy is unacceptable and she, legally, can ot bank hours. If she doesn't need you on Thursday she still has to pay you.

Prior to this conversation, have a new job lined up and then quit on the spot. She needs you more than you need her.

Face facts:. She is screwing you. It is time for you to move on.

I am the PP who you bolded upthread.

Guaranteed hours means you will be paid for 35 hours (or 40 hours or whatever) every week, regardless of if your family needs those hours or not. If the family wants to take the children to the grandparents and does not want you to come, they can. But they have to pay you for those hours. If the family decides to take an extra day at the beach, they have to pay you even though you are not working. For this arrangement, you have a set hours and days of work. You show up on those set hours and work those. If your employer does not need you, they have to pay you.

There are two exceptions.
1. You can have a flexible schedule. Some people are comfortable with this. It means you work 10-6 on Monday and 8-4 on Tuesday. Or you have a parent who is a surgeon and sometimes they need you to stay longer on one day and leave earlier another. This is negotiated BEFORE and you agree to it.
2. You want a day off but don't want to use PTO. So, you want to take Monday off and agree to work extra hours on T-F to make up for it. This has to be initiated BY YOU.

Some families have a relationship where they might ask - hey can you come in earlier or work longer and I will let you go the next day. But it is always an ask. You are guaranteed the hours in your contract and if they need you outside those hours, they need to pay extra for them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you have a contract?

If she isn't paying you for Monday, is she paying you more for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?

OP here
What do you mean by paying me more the other days? More per hour? No!
Why do you think she would pay me more? Ty!

My gosh, you’re rude AF.

You’re scheduled for 8am-4pm, Monday through Friday. Let’s say you’re paid $10 per hour. 8 hours, 5 days a week, means you’re paid $400 per week for 40 hours. You’re probably paid more than $10/hour, this is an example.

Now your MB is asking you to be off Monday, but work the same 40 hours over 4 days - you’d still be getting paid $10 per hour for 40 hours, so you’d still be making $400 for the week.

Get it?

Which is “bamking hours” and is illegal under household worker labor law.

Get it?

Or it’s a schedule change, which nanny can say no to. She’s a troll creating drama threads though, so I’m not sure why I even bothered.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you have a contract?

If she isn't paying you for Monday, is she paying you more for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?

OP here
What do you mean by paying me more the other days? More per hour? No!
Why do you think she would pay me more? Ty!

My gosh, you’re rude AF.

You’re scheduled for 8am-4pm, Monday through Friday. Let’s say you’re paid $10 per hour. 8 hours, 5 days a week, means you’re paid $400 per week for 40 hours. You’re probably paid more than $10/hour, this is an example.

Now your MB is asking you to be off Monday, but work the same 40 hours over 4 days - you’d still be getting paid $10 per hour for 40 hours, so you’d still be making $400 for the week.

Get it?

Which is “bamking hours” and is illegal under household worker labor law.

Get it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you have a contract?

If she isn't paying you for Monday, is she paying you more for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?

OP here
What do you mean by paying me more the other days? More per hour? No!
Why do you think she would pay me more? Ty!

My gosh, you’re rude AF.

You’re scheduled for 8am-4pm, Monday through Friday. Let’s say you’re paid $10 per hour. 8 hours, 5 days a week, means you’re paid $400 per week for 40 hours. You’re probably paid more than $10/hour, this is an example.

Now your MB is asking you to be off Monday, but work the same 40 hours over 4 days - you’d still be getting paid $10 per hour for 40 hours, so you’d still be making $400 for the week.

Get it?

DP.

So can she ask OP to work 2 20 hour days then, and it will be fine because she is paid 40 hours?

There has to be an agreed upon start and end time even when they are guaranteed hours.

You cannot just call OP and change the schedule will nilly.

OP here!
THIS THIS THIS
Thank you so much!!!!


I strongly advice Nannie’s to do research about guaranteed hours for a set schedule

If you don’t get the guaranteed hours nowadays, they’re taking advantage of you!
It’s industry standard!!!!!
I didn’t even know until now that I looked more into this whole stuff and I’m shocked!
They owe me thousands of dollars for giving me random unpaid days off and letting me go early on others without pay

It’s my fault too…. Thank you everybody

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you have a contract?

If she isn't paying you for Monday, is she paying you more for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?

OP here
What do you mean by paying me more the other days? More per hour? No!
Why do you think she would pay me more? Ty!

My gosh, you’re rude AF.

You’re scheduled for 8am-4pm, Monday through Friday. Let’s say you’re paid $10 per hour. 8 hours, 5 days a week, means you’re paid $400 per week for 40 hours. You’re probably paid more than $10/hour, this is an example.

Now your MB is asking you to be off Monday, but work the same 40 hours over 4 days - you’d still be getting paid $10 per hour for 40 hours, so you’d still be making $400 for the week.

Get it?

DP.

So can she ask OP to work 2 20 hour days then, and it will be fine because she is paid 40 hours?

There has to be an agreed upon start and end time even when they are guaranteed hours.

You cannot just call OP and change the schedule will nilly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you have a contract?

If she isn't paying you for Monday, is she paying you more for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?

OP here
What do you mean by paying me more the other days? More per hour? No!
Why do you think she would pay me more? Ty!

My gosh, you’re rude AF.

You’re scheduled for 8am-4pm, Monday through Friday. Let’s say you’re paid $10 per hour. 8 hours, 5 days a week, means you’re paid $400 per week for 40 hours. You’re probably paid more than $10/hour, this is an example.

Now your MB is asking you to be off Monday, but work the same 40 hours over 4 days - you’d still be getting paid $10 per hour for 40 hours, so you’d still be making $400 for the week.

Get it?

Anonymous wrote:Someone else stated it, but I feel like it is worth repeating. If the guaranteed hours are 35 hours a week, then you should be paid for 35 hours, regardless of if your family decides they want to send you home early, have you come late, they want to take the kids to the zoo without you one day.... You and your family should work together to discuss what that means in terms of hours per day. Some people have a very rigid set of time (my nanny works M-F 8:30 - 4:30 as the standard hours and VERY rarely almost never does that change). We have a friend who has a much more variable job so nanny works 40 hours but sometimes it is 7-3 other times 10 - 6. That nanny also wanted to take long weekends in the summer but not lose personal time, so she and her family worked out longer hours on the other days to compensate.

The family should talk to you and make clear what your standard hours are. It is totally fine for them to say "You work 35 hours a week. That is 9 hours T.W and 8 hours Th." You are totally allowed to say "I am not interested in those hours" What a family can't do is say "You work M-F 8 hours" and then let you go home on Monday and not pay you for that day. They also can't say "We are going away on Monday. You need to work 9 hours the rest of the week to make up for us being away" The only time that can happen is if you have pre-determined that is your contracted hours or YOU want the day off and don't have PTO and want to get fully paid.

You and the employer need to sit down and discuss what your standard working hours are and what you are comfortable with. If you are not comfortable with 4 days a week or it being random each week, say it is not a good fit and find a new job.

But, people were right to call out that you were very intense in your responses. People are legit trying to help you and you coming at them makes it hard for people to help you. I know it is stressful, but you will come to a stronger meeting of the minds if you can remain calm.

Thank you so much! Very nice of you! Can you pls explain this part that I highlighted in simpler terms? I don’t fully understand it thank you!

My issue is that she starts giving me the days off on short notice, for example
Couple weeks ago she tells me during the day on Monday “I’m taking my child to see grandpa on Thursday”
So this automatically means for me, I HAVE to be available for her for 35h on the other days, work outside my schedule hours into the evenings, on short notice, and there’s no room for me to make my full time 40h salary for that week, unless I work 10h each days or one day 12h.
All on short notice! So let’s say that Monday instead of leaving at 4, I have to stay till 6 or longer. Doesn’t seem fair to me. PLUS imagine if I say oh but I can’t stay till 6 tonight because o have to do (whatever), then my thinking is she doesn’t have to pay me even the 35h, unless I add even more hours to another day?!?!?!?! Like how is this fair?


So I did a lot of research about “guaranteed hours”. It says it should be within a set schedule, it doesn’t mean randomly picked, randomly picked to me it’s like being on call, but not being paid for it. It also seems to be “standard practice” in the industry.

I’m new to this guaranteed hours , so I’m trying to understand how other people handle it and if I really have to work all
These extra evening hours to make up for her last minute “day off” because it sounds too crazy to me. I would have never accepted this job if she told me this is how it will be handled. She said m-f 8-4

Btw I’m always willing to change hours for the day once in a while, or run errands during my off hours when I’m already out, I’m happy to make a phone call for her at night or whatever. It’s not that I’m entitled, I feel like if you lay me for the days you don’t need me, of course I’m happy to help you with other stuff!

Anonymous wrote:OP seems very dramatic.

OP here
Hell yea I sound dramatic!
It’s the difference of getting the day off PAID or UNPAID

OP seems very dramatic.

Someone else stated it, but I feel like it is worth repeating. If the guaranteed hours are 35 hours a week, then you should be paid for 35 hours, regardless of if your family decides they want to send you home early, have you come late, they want to take the kids to the zoo without you one day.... You and your family should work together to discuss what that means in terms of hours per day. Some people have a very rigid set of time (my nanny works M-F 8:30 - 4:30 as the standard hours and VERY rarely almost never does that change). We have a friend who has a much more variable job so nanny works 40 hours but sometimes it is 7-3 other times 10 - 6. That nanny also wanted to take long weekends in the summer but not lose personal time, so she and her family worked out longer hours on the other days to compensate.

The family should talk to you and make clear what your standard hours are. It is totally fine for them to say "You work 35 hours a week. That is 9 hours T.W and 8 hours Th." You are totally allowed to say "I am not interested in those hours" What a family can't do is say "You work M-F 8 hours" and then let you go home on Monday and not pay you for that day. They also can't say "We are going away on Monday. You need to work 9 hours the rest of the week to make up for us being away" The only time that can happen is if you have pre-determined that is your contracted hours or YOU want the day off and don't have PTO and want to get fully paid.

You and the employer need to sit down and discuss what your standard working hours are and what you are comfortable with. If you are not comfortable with 4 days a week or it being random each week, say it is not a good fit and find a new job.

But, people were right to call out that you were very intense in your responses. People are legit trying to help you and you coming at them makes it hard for people to help you. I know it is stressful, but you will come to a stronger meeting of the minds if you can remain calm.

dump her, OP. 10 hrs a day is rough and not what you agreed to. Tell her you would rather stick with the original schedule, otherwise unfortunately you will be leaving her. Be calm, polite and let her know that you would rather stay of course.

Stop pressing Enter after each sentence! Use paragraphs.