Anonymous
Post 07/26/2021 21:24     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:OP…..based on your recent replies. Yikes. Good luck to the nanny.



+1. OP went off the deep end.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2021 17:53     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

OP…..based on your recent replies. Yikes. Good luck to the nanny.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2021 15:13     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Also, why would you imply that parents don’t respect their nannies? That perspective says a lot more about you and your mindset than it does about anyone else. Mutual respect is the foundation of any good employer-employee relationship.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2021 14:56     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.


Many, many nannies won't want to deal with two wahp, so please don't try to undercut with two different rates.

Also, how do you intend to handle OT?


I can offer a higher base rate but it’ll be a buck or two more at most. And I call BS on the nannies not wanting my job, I have had over 50 applicants.


Also, I find the perspective of nannies not wanting to “deal with” parents or the anger at me for posting a legitimate question to the employer forum distasteful. Why is that? Its an honest question. I want to handle salary fairly but not pay for someone to care for my older child when they aren’t doing it 9 times out of 10. Also - is is still a pandemic. Many offices are closed. So where should I go to work, exactly, nanny who is so inconvenienced by my own presence in my home? Some of us want to be involved in our kids day to day lives and not just push them off onto hired help for 40 hours a week. How is that bad? Is it because my presence makes it harder for a bad nanny to screw around? I’ve had a flexible job for years so have spent many hours at the park during the day with the kids and have seen plenty of bad nannying. Nannies who ignore kids to scroll, talk on the phone, or hang with their nanny friends are more common than not. And it seems that many of them frequent these boards, for some reason, even when this is an employer thread.


I didn't say all would have a problem with two wahp parents; I certainly don't. My last position was with two wahp, but the difference is that they respected me and I respected them. I was paid adequately for my time, and both parents also made sure to not text with me to find appropriate times to come out, for the sake of the children. To me, that's the key, and it doesn't sound like you understand how disruptive your in/out schedule is going to be for your children.

And as I said, don't try to undercut the rate. Those of us who are happy to work for wahp (and who welcome cameras, as we have nothing to hide) aren't going to be lowballed.


I am the OP. And if I brought this perspective, mentality, and attitude to my professional job, I’d get sacked. As a professional employee of any kind your job is to do what your employer wants and to make their lives easier. You required your families to text you to walk around their home? I can’t imagine ever doing the at on a property where I pay the mortgage. Your job is to watch kids and make the parents’ life easier, not to perform a nanny job as you believe it should be done according to some sort of nonexistent professional principles and guiding standards. Sorry, I’m not hiding in my house because it irritates you for my kids to see me. And the rate I offer is the rate I can offer - I’m not undercutting you, I will offer you the most I can afford according to my budget and if you don’t want it don’t take my job. It’s basic economics. I’m not sure how an angry and aggrieved personality helps you get hired anywhere.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2021 14:01     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.


Many, many nannies won't want to deal with two wahp, so please don't try to undercut with two different rates.

Also, how do you intend to handle OT?


I can offer a higher base rate but it’ll be a buck or two more at most. And I call BS on the nannies not wanting my job, I have had over 50 applicants.


Also, I find the perspective of nannies not wanting to “deal with” parents or the anger at me for posting a legitimate question to the employer forum distasteful. Why is that? Its an honest question. I want to handle salary fairly but not pay for someone to care for my older child when they aren’t doing it 9 times out of 10. Also - is is still a pandemic. Many offices are closed. So where should I go to work, exactly, nanny who is so inconvenienced by my own presence in my home? Some of us want to be involved in our kids day to day lives and not just push them off onto hired help for 40 hours a week. How is that bad? Is it because my presence makes it harder for a bad nanny to screw around? I’ve had a flexible job for years so have spent many hours at the park during the day with the kids and have seen plenty of bad nannying. Nannies who ignore kids to scroll, talk on the phone, or hang with their nanny friends are more common than not. And it seems that many of them frequent these boards, for some reason, even when this is an employer thread.


I didn't say all would have a problem with two wahp parents; I certainly don't. My last position was with two wahp, but the difference is that they respected me and I respected them. I was paid adequately for my time, and both parents also made sure to not text with me to find appropriate times to come out, for the sake of the children. To me, that's the key, and it doesn't sound like you understand how disruptive your in/out schedule is going to be for your children.

And as I said, don't try to undercut the rate. Those of us who are happy to work for wahp (and who welcome cameras, as we have nothing to hide) aren't going to be lowballed.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2021 07:32     Subject: Re:Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:No. We just pay basically a two child rate. It’s not much more and so much easier to compute. No one feels taken advantage of and nanny is always willing to help with older child as she feels she gets a break with kid being in school.

If you start nickel and diming at the onset, no one is happy. Just add a dollar to the rate for the baby.


Another employer +1. Job description was to watch 2 kids. If one or both are at school for some of the day, all the better for the nanny. But we are covered for holidays, teacher workdays, summers, unexpected school pickups, etc.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 19:57     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.


Many, many nannies won't want to deal with two wahp, so please don't try to undercut with two different rates.

Also, how do you intend to handle OT?


I can offer a higher base rate but it’ll be a buck or two more at most. And I call BS on the nannies not wanting my job, I have had over 50 applicants.



Are you the OP? A buck or two is all you have to offer. That’s fair and infinitely easier on everyone.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 15:15     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.


Many, many nannies won't want to deal with two wahp, so please don't try to undercut with two different rates.

Also, how do you intend to handle OT?


I can offer a higher base rate but it’ll be a buck or two more at most. And I call BS on the nannies not wanting my job, I have had over 50 applicants.


Also, I find the perspective of nannies not wanting to “deal with” parents or the anger at me for posting a legitimate question to the employer forum distasteful. Why is that? Its an honest question. I want to handle salary fairly but not pay for someone to care for my older child when they aren’t doing it 9 times out of 10. Also - is is still a pandemic. Many offices are closed. So where should I go to work, exactly, nanny who is so inconvenienced by my own presence in my home? Some of us want to be involved in our kids day to day lives and not just push them off onto hired help for 40 hours a week. How is that bad? Is it because my presence makes it harder for a bad nanny to screw around? I’ve had a flexible job for years so have spent many hours at the park during the day with the kids and have seen plenty of bad nannying. Nannies who ignore kids to scroll, talk on the phone, or hang with their nanny friends are more common than not. And it seems that many of them frequent these boards, for some reason, even when this is an employer thread.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 13:39     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.


Many, many nannies won't want to deal with two wahp, so please don't try to undercut with two different rates.

Also, how do you intend to handle OT?


I can offer a higher base rate but it’ll be a buck or two more at most. And I call BS on the nannies not wanting my job, I have had over 50 applicants.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 12:23     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.


Many, many nannies won't want to deal with two wahp, so please don't try to undercut with two different rates.

Also, how do you intend to handle OT?
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 10:54     Subject: Re:Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:No. We just pay basically a two child rate. It’s not much more and so much easier to compute. No one feels taken advantage of and nanny is always willing to help with older child as she feels she gets a break with kid being in school.

If you start nickel and diming at the onset, no one is happy. Just add a dollar to the rate for the baby.



This is what we do as well. So much easier and ultimately cheaper for those long school breaks. Plus nanny does our older child’s laundry, dishes, linens and towels, and straightens his room. She also makes his lunch and snacks every morning and is happy to do his breakfast dishes.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 10:41     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


I would not hire you based on this attitude because you sound contentious.

What I’m thinking of doing is offering the base rate for the hours the nanny watches the baby and then increasing the rate she watches the second kid. This will mean she’ll make more on school holidays, etc. but I don’t have to pay for 30
Hours per week of her not watching my elementary age child, which I do not think is fair, especially given that I and my partner telework and are basically around and helping with the kids to some extent so the nanny will rarely ever be 100 percent responsible as we handle school drop off and pick up, lunches, and I’m still nursing so nanny doesn’t have to wash bottles or pump parts or even give bottles and gets a break when I feed.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2021 09:44     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have 2 choices here:

1) Pay the nanny’s 2 child rate for every hour/day/week she works. Then the nanny will be responsible for the older child in all the ways she’s responsible for the younger child.

2) Pay the nanny’s one child rate and don’t ever expect her to do anything for your older child. You’ll need to take time off work if your older child is ill, doesn’t have school, or is out for the summer. No older kid laundry, no help with older kid’s messes, no nothing.

You are likely looking at $2-$4 more per hour to get nanny care for your older kid. If your nanny works 50 hours a week, that’s around $220 a week. $12,000 a year with your share of taxes.

If I were your nanny and you chose to pay me for only one child, I’d add a clause to my contract that any day I was expected to provide care for your older child you’d have to pay me an additional $300. Yes. $300 a day. Or pay my 2 child rate and avoid having to shell out an additional $1500 when your older child is home sick for a full week.


There's a 3rd choice: Pay the nanny more on the days she's responsible for both children.


Then boundaries get pushed. It starts with laundry, then cleaning up after morning/afternoon, packing lunches, etc. Either the nanny is always responsible for the older child, which may mean running a forgotten lunch to school or picking up the child in the case that they are sick or injured, or she's not.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 19:58     Subject: Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

Pay the nanny $ 15/ 20 per hour *in cash* for the extraneous occasional times she will need to to watch the older child for an hour or for a day. The amount might pale in comparison to paying a 2-child rate for weeks or months when the older child will not be there. Emphasize the cash to please the nanny.

Or, just do the math. Are paying $20/hour or one kid and $25 for for 2? Get out your calculator.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2021 10:29     Subject: Re:Parents, do you change your hourly nanny rate when older child comes home from school/is home?

No. We just pay basically a two child rate. It’s not much more and so much easier to compute. No one feels taken advantage of and nanny is always willing to help with older child as she feels she gets a break with kid being in school.

If you start nickel and diming at the onset, no one is happy. Just add a dollar to the rate for the baby.