Anonymous
Post 01/09/2020 12:29     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.


Fine. OK. You don't like the chore examples. Let's use the baby engagement examples. Why don't you then ignore the baby so you can surf the web. Certainly it would make a nanny much happier! Or never take him out. Who wants to drag the baby all over the place. Kicking back at home would make the nanny much happier. But not the baby.

So no, a happy nanny does not equal a happy baby. Nanny does what's best for the child regardless of how it makes her feel. I mean if everything baby related is a source of unhappiness, then she's possibly in the wrong line of work. But the premise holds regardless.


Disagree. Going out DOES make a nanny happier. That’s why so many nannies pass on positions that require us to stay home all the time.

I can agree that engaging with an infant can be tiring, boring at times. Thanks for using a logical argument
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2020 20:56     Subject: Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:Mother of three here. I would absolutely pay her 3 weeks severance

+1
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2020 20:47     Subject: Let nanny go.

Mother of three here. I would absolutely pay her 3 weeks severance
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2020 10:45     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.


Fine. OK. You don't like the chore examples. Let's use the baby engagement examples. Why don't you then ignore the baby so you can surf the web. Certainly it would make a nanny much happier! Or never take him out. Who wants to drag the baby all over the place. Kicking back at home would make the nanny much happier. But not the baby.

So no, a happy nanny does not equal a happy baby. Nanny does what's best for the child regardless of how it makes her feel. I mean if everything baby related is a source of unhappiness, then she's possibly in the wrong line of work. But the premise holds regardless.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2020 08:53     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.


I hope I’m misunderstanding but it sounds like you’re saying a nanny shouldn’t be required to do laundry or sanitize toys because babies don’t care about germs??


No, I said that it’s not a logical argument, because the premise is flawed...
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 22:59     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.


I hope I’m misunderstanding but it sounds like you’re saying a nanny shouldn’t be required to do laundry or sanitize toys because babies don’t care about germs??

Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 20:25     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.


What? If I am coming home to a messy house AND an unhappy child who is "learning to self-soothe and experience unhappiness", and it's not rare occurrence that you're trying to remedy, you're pretty much going to get fired.


Criminetly!

No, I never said the child should be unhappy all time. Nor am I saying that the nanny should do nothing. My point is simply that requiring a nanny to keep a child happy all the time is not in the child’s best interest. And that the child’s happiness has nothing to do with chores being completed.

I completely agree that child-related tasks should be done. BUT!!! Don’t try to use logic that doesn’t work.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 15:46     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.



Nanny, get real! You can easily achieve all your objectives and much more AND have a happy, engaged charge.

Signed,
A nanny



PS. I have never left chores in my career nor had a charge in stained or dirty clothes. I was also quite unhappy with my employers in my former position but loved their child so I always went above and beyond for my charge.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 15:43     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.



Nanny, get real! You can easily achieve all your objectives and much more AND have a happy, engaged charge.

Signed,
A nanny
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 14:46     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.


What? If I am coming home to a messy house AND an unhappy child who is "learning to self-soothe and experience unhappiness", and it's not rare occurrence that you're trying to remedy, you're pretty much going to get fired.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 14:33     Subject: Let nanny go.

^^Lazy nanny
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 13:08     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.


You’re conflating chores with happiness. Babies don’t care if they’re in clean laundry or wearing something that’s stained. They don’t know about germs, much less care about them.

And no, your child’s happiness is not my goal. Love, boundaries, education and manners are my goal. A child whose parents want to use happiness as the goal do not challenge the children, set boundaries or teach manners. Children need to experience adversity and unhappiness to learn how to self-soothe, how to overcome failure.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 13:00     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.


Actually no, it isn't. A happy child is. If the process of making him happy makes the nanny unhappy, well, that's her problem. I mean who in their right mind would choose baby laundry and sanitizing toys to sitting on the couch? And yet the laundry/clean toys would make the baby much happier.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 11:58     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


Same here. Our nanny decides when and for how long to go for walks, and I don't care what she does when my child naps, as long as everything on her chore list gets done (picking up the toys, washing the baby's dishes, wiping down high chair, that sort of thing).

If I were coming home to a messy house and a pile of empty baby bottles and dishes, I would not be happy. That just adds to my own nightly list of chores, which is already long. And lateness would be a huge dealbreaker.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2020 04:01     Subject: Re:Let nanny go.

Anonymous wrote:I would give our sitter the Netflix password if she wanted to watch while baby was sleeping, I also wouldnt care if she napped when he did. I also do not ask our sitter to tell me when she leaves and comes back, this sounds very mirco managing.

Having said that, being late would be enough for me to get rid of someone, and leaving the house a complete mess when I got home.


I want to work for you!
You sound like that rare employer who knows instinctively that by treating your Nanny well, your child will be in the best hands possible.

Happy Nanny = Happy Child.
Period.

Isn’t that the final goal for all??!