Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Is there ever an instance where we can consider that our former nanny is now truly a friend and therefore we wouldn't treat her like an employee anymore? As a comparison, we've had visiting friends come over before and insist that they wanted to watch our son so we could have a few hours outside the house. We made sure there was plenty of food available for them, were gone just long enough to see a movie, and of course were profuse in our thanks, but we didn't pay them. If our former nanny initiates the visit, would that be a similar situation?
And of course I can just ask her, but I also don't want to insult her if this is a ridiculous question.
If she is free to leave then it's a visit. If she isn't, she's working. So if you decide to go to a movie and it's fine if she takes off, then sure, don't pay her. I'm assuming that isn't the case though. If you're going out and she's spending her time with your child, she gets paid. If you decide to stay home and you sit and have coffee with her, then it's a visit. If she comes to your child's birthday party and you don't expect her to watch the kids or clean the kitchen afterward, then it can be a visit.
The last family I worked for didn't seem to understand this. I'm in a competitive grad school program and work full time in my field. I still wanted to see their child, but I absolutely do not have time (or any desire) to work as a nanny again. I would love to come by for an hour and play with their child and chat a little and then be on my way. However, there is no way in hell that I would consider sitting in someone else's house at night to get home in the dark and the cold after working all day. No way would I devote my only work-free day of the week to catering to the whims of a small child. The difference is the ability to come and go on a whim. If your friend dropped in, would you run out the door to go do something else and leave them with your child? Probably not. If you really saw them as a friend and not an employee, you would want to actually talk to them and not expect them to fall back into their old routine but for free. We all love the kids we work with, but taking care of a small child is work, no matter how special their bond was.
Anonymous wrote:How old is your son?
Anonymous wrote: Is there ever an instance where we can consider that our former nanny is now truly a friend and therefore we wouldn't treat her like an employee anymore? As a comparison, we've had visiting friends come over before and insist that they wanted to watch our son so we could have a few hours outside the house. We made sure there was plenty of food available for them, were gone just long enough to see a movie, and of course were profuse in our thanks, but we didn't pay them. If our former nanny initiates the visit, would that be a similar situation?
And of course I can just ask her, but I also don't want to insult her if this is a ridiculous question.
Anonymous wrote:I read OP’s post to mean that her son could stay “in town”, meaning in their current town with DH’s parents, rather than make the trip to their former city for the wedding. You and DH will have a better time at the wedding if your child isn’t having to adjust to a different sleep situation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who is this visit for? Is it so your son can spend time with his beloved nanny, or because the nanny would really like to see your son, or because you'd prefer to not leave him with the grandparents?
Only in the case that the nanny has been begging you to find way to let her see your son do you have room to negotiate this fee. Even in that case, I'd suggest working out a short (free) visit or a few hours babysitting (paid) rather than paying a fortune for ... what, exactly?
My son hasn't asked to see his old nanny in a while - when we first moved he did but he's now well-established in our new city with a new school, new nanny, new friends, and hasn't asked in a while. My in-laws are awesome and he loves staying with them, so I have no issue with them taking care of him. I asked our former nanny if she would WANT to have him stay with her, trying to make it clear that we did not need this to happen. She had come to visit us over the summer and had been asking for another time to visit but we've been busy literally every single weekend since October and had been traveling a lot and it hadn't worked out, so I thought this might be a good chance for her to get to see him. So I guess that's the problem - I feel like I'm doing this as a favor to her rather than the other way around, so paying her $300 so she can see my son just seems like a lot.
Anonymous wrote:Who is this visit for? Is it so your son can spend time with his beloved nanny, or because the nanny would really like to see your son, or because you'd prefer to not leave him with the grandparents?
Only in the case that the nanny has been begging you to find way to let her see your son do you have room to negotiate this fee. Even in that case, I'd suggest working out a short (free) visit or a few hours babysitting (paid) rather than paying a fortune for ... what, exactly?
Anonymous wrote:Who is this visit for? Is it so your son can spend time with his beloved nanny, or because the nanny would really like to see your son, or because you'd prefer to not leave him with the grandparents?
Only in the case that the nanny has been begging you to find way to let her see your son do you have room to negotiate this fee. Even in that case, I'd suggest working out a short (free) visit or a few hours babysitting (paid) rather than paying a fortune for ... what, exactly?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More than you did when she was your full time nanny.
Why more?
I'm not trying to be cheap since she was paid for 100+ hours per pay period before, so tons of OT, all on the books, plenty of benefits, etc. I'm just thinking it's not worth it for us to even bring him if it's going to cost me hundreds of dollars. The other option is he could stay in town with my in-laws and be perfectly happy.
Why do you think you should be paying her less?! That makes no sense.
Keep him home with the in laws.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is going to expect the same compensation, not less. Plus she is having your son at her home, which is harder.
Absolutely correct. If you want someone to take care of your little brat in the nights when your sleeping, don't try to be cheap. Pay us what we are worth.