Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS treats nannyshare families as joint employers, not as individual employers. So you must pay at least $13.25 combined, not $13.25 per family.

This is incredibly bad advice. Each family in a nanny share is an employer. Both families need to get EINs and pay at least minimum wage, pay overtime, get workers' comp, etc.

BTW, in a nanny share families should pay 2/3 of the nanny's typical rate. A nanny share adds more work for the nanny (dealing with 2 employers) and should be compensated accordingly. If a nanny usually makes $24/hour then each family should pay $16/hour.

The link to the regulations has already been provided. As stated, joint employment regulations actually help the employee. It protects against loss of overtime, vacation, and other benefits if the employers don’t properly coordinate. It also means that both employers are equally liable for contracted pay. So, for example, if one family leaves without contracted notice or doesn’t pay, the other employer is still liable.

Rates I've seen for infant shares in the area, for highly qualified nannies, are around $30. As someone mentioned, some jobs are $25 for one family and that is easier for a nanny to deal with than two families.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Currently making $24/hr plus guaranteed overtime in NW, I started this year. I rejected several offers that were lower, even ones that said they would guarantee a raise later. The lowest I would take for a share is $24/hr. Anything lower would’ve been temp until I found something better.

I don’t think $30/hr is high for a share, that’s $15 per family. That’s what some ppl try to pay for one child, which is actually low in my opinion. Why do you think it’s high?

Agreed.

$15 is the going rate for one child babysitting. You don't typically pay double with two kids. That's why $30 seems high.

If OP is seeking an actual Nanny, babysitter rates mean nothing.

OP, you should expect to pay a minimum of $25/hour, and for an experienced, educated, career nanny $30/hour or more is perfectly reasonable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS treats nannyshare families as joint employers, not as individual employers. So you must pay at least $13.25 combined, not $13.25 per family.

This is incredibly bad advice. Each family in a nanny share is an employer. Both families need to get EINs and pay at least minimum wage, pay overtime, get workers' comp, etc.

BTW, in a nanny share families should pay 2/3 of the nanny's typical rate. A nanny share adds more work for the nanny (dealing with 2 employers) and should be compensated accordingly. If a nanny usually makes $24/hour then each family should pay $16/hour.

Agreed.

Anonymous wrote:The IRS treats nannyshare families as joint employers, not as individual employers. So you must pay at least $13.25 combined, not $13.25 per family.

This is incredibly bad advice. Each family in a nanny share is an employer. Both families need to get EINs and pay at least minimum wage, pay overtime, get workers' comp, etc.

BTW, in a nanny share families should pay 2/3 of the nanny's typical rate. A nanny share adds more work for the nanny (dealing with 2 employers) and should be compensated accordingly. If a nanny usually makes $24/hour then each family should pay $16/hour.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Currently making $24/hr plus guaranteed overtime in NW, I started this year. I rejected several offers that were lower, even ones that said they would guarantee a raise later. The lowest I would take for a share is $24/hr. Anything lower would’ve been temp until I found something better.

I don’t think $30/hr is high for a share, that’s $15 per family. That’s what some ppl try to pay for one child, which is actually low in my opinion. Why do you think it’s high?

Agreed.

$15 is the going rate for one child babysitting. You don't typically pay double with two kids. That's why $30 seems high.

Babysitting isn’t the same as a nanny. “Going rate” is something cheaper ppl tell themselves to justify their lower pay.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Currently making $24/hr plus guaranteed overtime in NW, I started this year. I rejected several offers that were lower, even ones that said they would guarantee a raise later. The lowest I would take for a share is $24/hr. Anything lower would’ve been temp until I found something better.

I don’t think $30/hr is high for a share, that’s $15 per family. That’s what some ppl try to pay for one child, which is actually low in my opinion. Why do you think it’s high?

Agreed.

$15 is the going rate for one child babysitting. You don't typically pay double with two kids. That's why $30 seems high.

We find the going rate is $20+.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are in DC and paying your nanny less than 13.25 per family then you are violating DC minimum wage law an employer should pay ( cruel to pay a nanny at or below minimum wage IMHO). You being in a share does not mean you play by different standards since it's individual employers. It's consider a share because the nanny watches the kids together however pay and benefits are divided equally per employer.

https://www.minimum-wage.org/district-of-columbia

The IRS treats nannyshare families as joint employers, not as individual employers. So you must pay at least $13.25 combined, not $13.25 per family.

Link please.

https://www.dol.gov/whd/FMLA2007Report/Chapter10.pdf
(Full FLSA guidelines are somewhere on the DOL site, but too late to go digging for them.)

"...where the employee performs work which simultaneously benefits two or more employers, and there is an arrangement between employers to share an employee’s services or to interchange employees, a joint employment relationship generally will be considered to exist."

IRS follows DOL regulations on this. (It is also generally beneficial, not detrimental, to nannies in shares, since it means that OT is triggered when the *share* hits 40 hours, not when one family or the other hits 40 hours. So if each family uses 40 hours but the nanny actually works 50 hours because one child comes early and the other stays late--the last 10 hours must be paid at OT rates, even though neither family individually hit 40.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Currently making $24/hr plus guaranteed overtime in NW, I started this year. I rejected several offers that were lower, even ones that said they would guarantee a raise later. The lowest I would take for a share is $24/hr. Anything lower would’ve been temp until I found something better.

I don’t think $30/hr is high for a share, that’s $15 per family. That’s what some ppl try to pay for one child, which is actually low in my opinion. Why do you think it’s high?

Agreed.

$15 is the going rate for one child babysitting. You don't typically pay double with two kids. That's why $30 seems high.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are in DC and paying your nanny less than 13.25 per family then you are violating DC minimum wage law an employer should pay ( cruel to pay a nanny at or below minimum wage IMHO). You being in a share does not mean you play by different standards since it's individual employers. It's consider a share because the nanny watches the kids together however pay and benefits are divided equally per employer.

https://www.minimum-wage.org/district-of-columbia

The IRS treats nannyshare families as joint employers, not as individual employers. So you must pay at least $13.25 combined, not $13.25 per family.

Link please.

Np here. Home pay stated the same to us.

Anonymous wrote:Currently making $24/hr plus guaranteed overtime in NW, I started this year. I rejected several offers that were lower, even ones that said they would guarantee a raise later. The lowest I would take for a share is $24/hr. Anything lower would’ve been temp until I found something better.

I don’t think $30/hr is high for a share, that’s $15 per family. That’s what some ppl try to pay for one child, which is actually low in my opinion. Why do you think it’s high?

Agreed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are in DC and paying your nanny less than 13.25 per family then you are violating DC minimum wage law an employer should pay ( cruel to pay a nanny at or below minimum wage IMHO). You being in a share does not mean you play by different standards since it's individual employers. It's consider a share because the nanny watches the kids together however pay and benefits are divided equally per employer.

https://www.minimum-wage.org/district-of-columbia

The IRS treats nannyshare families as joint employers, not as individual employers. So you must pay at least $13.25 combined, not $13.25 per family.

Link please.