Anonymous wrote:I interviewed a nanny who was getting paid $22/hour under the table to work in Arlington.

And there you go, OP. Nannies in DC are expensive. You want cheap undocumented child care? There are lots of unlicensed home day cares. That way, at $50/day, they can still make a living by bringing in 4-5 children.

I interviewed a nanny who was getting paid $22/hour under the table to work in Arlington.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it important not to overpay? You would think that
if anyone could use a higher hourly rate, or would be someone like the person you wish to hire.

Why involve yourself in something you don't understand? There is a power and class dynamic at play here that just escapes the average white American. Good employers don't set up a situation in which employees feel they are duping or taking advantage of a stupid or overly generous boss. Sooner or later that leads to unhappiness on both sides of the equation. Good bosses pay the correct wage and good employees are happy to work for it.

Unbelievably the sanctimommies - who'd sooner die than allow someone poor, brown and undocumented to touch their precious snowflakes- are now advocating that I pay a person with low qualifications the same $25/hour wage they pay bachelors degree teacher-type nannies. Only on DCUM! The hypocrisy and false compassion is mind-blowing.

OP out.

You are breaking the law, OP. Lose the sanctimonious outrage. You are a user and a poor excuse for an American.

Wow, OP, I hope you get busted. You are disgusting.

And I am an MB and not a nanny.

You just stated that good bosses pay the correct wages, then why don't you do that.

OP, you're actually learning two things here:

1) This is an anonymous forum. If a lot of us were paying undocumented, elementary-educated immigrants under-the-table, you'd probably have gotten some actual responses. What you've learned is that this isn't the "thing" you think it is.

2) You ARE worried about being taken advantage of or overpaying, or you would just ask her what she charges. You can frame it however you want, but you are trying to save money on the back of "someone poor, brown and undocumented" by having the upper hand in any rate negotiations (that is, you want to know information she can't possibly have, which is, what other people in her situation are being paid).

Anonymous wrote:Why is it important not to overpay? You would think that
if anyone could use a higher hourly rate, or would be someone like the person you wish to hire.

Why involve yourself in something you don't understand? There is a power and class dynamic at play here that just escapes the average white American. Good employers don't set up a situation in which employees feel they are duping or taking advantage of a stupid or overly generous boss. Sooner or later that leads to unhappiness on both sides of the equation. Good bosses pay the correct wage and good employees are happy to work for it.

Unbelievably the sanctimommies - who'd sooner die than allow someone poor, brown and undocumented to touch their precious snowflakes- are now advocating that I pay a person with low qualifications the same $25/hour wage they pay bachelors degree teacher-type nannies. Only on DCUM! The hypocrisy and false compassion is mind-blowing.

OP out.

It not or.

Why is it important not to overpay? You would think that
if anyone could use a higher hourly rate, or would be someone like the person you wish to hire.

Good lord, you people. How dare you assume that because someone is poor and undocumented they are not a good caregiver. My husband and I have done a lot of work with undereducated and impoverished people living in Central America. There are things that a woman from this group may have to offer my son that are valuable to him and to us and that we CANNOT give him ourselves. We don't need a nanny with a university degree and umc American culture because we already have that to share. People judging me need to take a look in the mirror themselves.

But, because we have worked and lived with the target population, we also understand that it is important not to overpay. That is why I am asking the question.

If anyone else wants to weigh in and has a real answer, I'd be grateful. I'm sure you're out there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I pay a flat 100 dollars day but we stagger our start and leave times and make sure she is really only working 7.5 hours a day.

So a little over $13/hour - above DC minimum wage.

A good nanny is not a minimum wage employee.

OP, please send your baby to daycare. Honestly, he/she would be much better off than with a woman who you can't even run a background check on. Please.

Anonymous wrote:People should just answer the question asked & stop trying to stir the pot here.

Yes, I am sure it is illegal and OP knows this!!

That isn’t the issue here.
The issue is how much do others pay!

Yes. I am going to rob my neighbor's house. Should I carry out their belongings in paper or plastic bags?

Just answer the question. Stick to the issue here.

primary school experience who does not speak English.

How well will this serve your children? Grade school education and no English? Legal vs illegal aside, maybe they would be better off with an au pair or home day care.

People should just answer the question asked & stop trying to stir the pot here.

Yes, I am sure it is illegal and OP knows this!!

That isn’t the issue here.
The issue is how much do others pay!

Anonymous wrote:I pay a flat 100 dollars day but we stagger our start and leave times and make sure she is really only working 7.5 hours a day.

So a little over $13/hour - above DC minimum wage.