Anonymous
Post 11/13/2017 06:36     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

agree, why are you having kids at all? they're not an accessory. they're not even here yet and you're saying you need someone to take care of them 24 hours a day. that isn't parenting.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 15:33     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

Yes PP's please stop making it sound like "NCS" is some amazing thing this mom needs. It's not.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 03:59     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

Anonymous wrote:22:31, 19:42 here. An NCS who knows her stuff will be able to sleep train the babies, and staying for 6 months means the NCS will also get the babies through the 4 month sleep regression and back to STTN.

The NCS can also set the stage for sleep success around the clock by advising the 2 nannies who will be taking over 24/7 care at 6 months. Consistency in routine is key to successful care of infants, toddlers, and all ages of kids.

As far as my numbers, ($35 x 40) + ($52.5 x 20) for the NCS each week. ($25 x 40) + ($37.5 x 20) for the week day nanny each week. ($25 x 40) + (37.5 x 8) for the weekend nanny each week. All for 26 weeks.

After 6 months, nannies split the week into 24/4 and 24/3. 4 days of work is ($25 x 40) + ($37.5 x 56). 3 days of work is ($25 x 40) + ($37.5 x 32). Legally all hours must be paid because neither nanny has the expectation of 8 hours uninterrupted sleep. They are on active duty 24 hours a day.

It's too late to do the math. I'll post tomorrow.


19.35 again. I know plenty of nannies who can get twins on a schedule, work with other nannies to make sure if consistency and don't have ncs training. It may be worth it to some parents, while others would prefer to start with the people they intend to keep long term. Other than that, sounds like we agree
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 02:09     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

22:31, 19:42 here. An NCS who knows her stuff will be able to sleep train the babies, and staying for 6 months means the NCS will also get the babies through the 4 month sleep regression and back to STTN.

The NCS can also set the stage for sleep success around the clock by advising the 2 nannies who will be taking over 24/7 care at 6 months. Consistency in routine is key to successful care of infants, toddlers, and all ages of kids.

As far as my numbers, ($35 x 40) + ($52.5 x 20) for the NCS each week. ($25 x 40) + ($37.5 x 20) for the week day nanny each week. ($25 x 40) + (37.5 x 8) for the weekend nanny each week. All for 26 weeks.

After 6 months, nannies split the week into 24/4 and 24/3. 4 days of work is ($25 x 40) + ($37.5 x 56). 3 days of work is ($25 x 40) + ($37.5 x 32). Legally all hours must be paid because neither nanny has the expectation of 8 hours uninterrupted sleep. They are on active duty 24 hours a day.

It's too late to do the math. I'll post tomorrow.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2017 23:17     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

Why bother to have children?
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2017 22:31     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

Anonymous wrote:You need a newborn care specialist to work 7pm - 7am, on duty Sunday through Thursday, and a nanny with twin experience and NCS training to work 7am - 7pm, on duty Monday through Friday. In addition, you need a nanny with twin experience and NCS training to work from Friday at 7pm through Sunday at 7pm. The hourly cost will range from $25-40, and you will need to account for overtime for all 3 employees.

I strongly suggest you have the NCS stay for 6 months, and then transition to a 4 on/4 off schedule with the remaining nannies, working 24 hour shifts. You would also want to have a substitute on call.

The first 6 months you would be looking at about $5,000 - 6,000 a week. If you then dropped down to 2 nannies, your cost would be about the same, due to overtime wages.

(The cost estimates are based on $35 for an NCS, $25 for a nanny.)


19.35 here. What's your reasoning re: ncs for the first 6 months for overnights?

I ran the numbers for my plan (budgeting $25/hour for each nanny, $37.50 overtime), run twice for with parents on/off 48 hour weekends.

Nannies work 5 12 hour days, parents are responsible for weekends:
2 nannies * (40 hours *$25+1.5 *$25*20overtime hours=
2(1000+37.5*20)=2(1000+750)=2*1750=3500

2 nannies work 7 12 hour days, parents are never solely responsible for kids unless a nanny is sick or on vacation:
2(40*25+1.5*25*44)=2(1000+37.5*44)=2(1000+1650)=2*2650=5300
While more expensive due to so much overtime, some people prefer to consistency for the routine.

PPs option of three nannies, 2 working 5 12 hour days and one working 48 hours straight:
3(40*25)+2(1.5*25*20)+1.5*25*4=
3*1000+2(37.5*20)+37.5*4= 3000+2*750+150=3150+1500=4650

OP, you are looking at a range of hourly rates $20-30+, we both ran something in the middle. You'll have more luck finding nannies who want 40-60 hours, rather than 7 12 hour days, and if anyone says they want 24/7 with infant twins, it's a red flag. Bottom line is that you can find what you need, but it will cost anywhere from 3k to over 5k. That is only the nannies' salaries. It doesn't include agency fees, employer contributions for taxes, workers' compensation insurance, insurance/mileage/metro for the children to go anywhere with the nannies, any benefits (cost of paying two people for the same time and/or you covering by taking off work), etc. You need to sit down and discuss your new reality with an agency. There are numerous agencies in the D.C./Baltimore area, ask each for fees, guarantees, ability to send a temp to cover illness/vacation, etc. Ask about the type/depth of background checks, ability to contact references, and anything else that might be important to you.

Good luck OP. Please let us know what you choose to do.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2017 19:42     Subject: 24 hour nanny for twins

You need a newborn care specialist to work 7pm - 7am, on duty Sunday through Thursday, and a nanny with twin experience and NCS training to work 7am - 7pm, on duty Monday through Friday. In addition, you need a nanny with twin experience and NCS training to work from Friday at 7pm through Sunday at 7pm. The hourly cost will range from $25-40, and you will need to account for overtime for all 3 employees.

I strongly suggest you have the NCS stay for 6 months, and then transition to a 4 on/4 off schedule with the remaining nannies, working 24 hour shifts. You would also want to have a substitute on call.

The first 6 months you would be looking at about $5,000 - 6,000 a week. If you then dropped down to 2 nannies, your cost would be about the same, due to overtime wages.

(The cost estimates are based on $35 for an NCS, $25 for a nanny.)
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2017 19:35     Subject: Re:24 hour nanny for twins

I've done knew 24/7 twice, but I wouldn't have considered it if y charges were under 6 months. With infants waking multiple times per night, the nanny can't sleep an appreciable amount. Your best choice is to hire one nanny for 7a-7p, and another for 7p-7a, with the understanding that they are on call for the other shift in case of illness. And you need to plan out vacations for both now, with planning on vacation yourself to cover or you should talk to the agency's when you look to hire both permanent nannies. If you can schedule a great temp now (someone who wants the flexibility if temp work), it'll be a little more work asking both permanent nannies to nail down vacation weeks within a month of working, but it also means that you would have the same temp.