Anonymous
Post 09/18/2017 16:03     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people should work on reading comprehension. PP said that "any job" out there lets you go home at 5 on the dot when work is supposed to end. That simply isn't true for the vast majority of jobs out there. Married to a physician who never has any clue when he is getting home, because a patient could show up to the hospital at 458, and it's his job to treat them, which takes more than 2 minutes. If it's a clinic day, a couple of late patients or a slow medical assistant can throw the schedule off for an entire day. My job technically ends at 5, but it's totally normal to have work that needs to be finished before I leave, causing me to stay later, or to have my boss sideline me with an important conversation as I'm trying to get out the door.

You should absolutely be compensated for your time, OP. But wanting to leave at 5 (or whatever time) on the dot may not be realistic for these parents if they have one of the many, many jobs in this world that sometimes require you to stay a few minutes late (without additional compensation!) And if that's the case, maybe this isn't the job for you.


Op here. I understand occasional days where the parent may leave late. However, I don't understand it happening 2 sometimes 3 days per week AND this being the case, every week. Let me also state that I am in a nanny share and the other family has NEVER been late- I've been with them for a year now. They work together and if one is running late, they both group text me and say "hey, running late can you leave a little early to relief Melissa?" If that's isn't possible then I say "no worries" because I see them try to at least work it out to relieve me on time. The other family is not that organize and sometimes I think they take advantage of me. Like I mentioned before, I work long hours with a total of 3 children (under the age of 5) and I am in school. I have proven to be more than flexible and I arrive on time. I also do not get compensated every time. So how does that indicate that this isn't the job for me? Because I chose not to be taken advantage of? Because I am not an assistant that has agreed to work demanding hours all day long? I have a contract that states I work from this hour to this hour- abide by the rules! If I was late everyday, I would be fired! One rule can't apply to one person but not the other. I have every right to want to leave on the dot because that's in my contract!


Why aren't you getting paid for the time when they are late? You should be, and if they are not paying you for that time, they are breaking the law.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2017 13:32     Subject: Re:Tardiness
This is just a question of communication and expectations. Some nannies have employers who need flexible arrival times - including some executives, lawyers, and doctors. Others don't. This should be part of the job negotiations - although granted things also can change. Obviously any hours worked should be paid for.

It sounds like you want a set end time. They may or may not be able to handle it. You all need to make a decision about whether this continues to be a good fit.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 22:42     Subject: Tardiness
*relieve
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 22:42     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:You people should work on reading comprehension. PP said that "any job" out there lets you go home at 5 on the dot when work is supposed to end. That simply isn't true for the vast majority of jobs out there. Married to a physician who never has any clue when he is getting home, because a patient could show up to the hospital at 458, and it's his job to treat them, which takes more than 2 minutes. If it's a clinic day, a couple of late patients or a slow medical assistant can throw the schedule off for an entire day. My job technically ends at 5, but it's totally normal to have work that needs to be finished before I leave, causing me to stay later, or to have my boss sideline me with an important conversation as I'm trying to get out the door.

You should absolutely be compensated for your time, OP. But wanting to leave at 5 (or whatever time) on the dot may not be realistic for these parents if they have one of the many, many jobs in this world that sometimes require you to stay a few minutes late (without additional compensation!) And if that's the case, maybe this isn't the job for you.


Op here. I understand occasional days where the parent may leave late. However, I don't understand it happening 2 sometimes 3 days per week AND this being the case, every week. Let me also state that I am in a nanny share and the other family has NEVER been late- I've been with them for a year now. They work together and if one is running late, they both group text me and say "hey, running late can you leave a little early to relief Melissa?" If that's isn't possible then I say "no worries" because I see them try to at least work it out to relieve me on time. The other family is not that organize and sometimes I think they take advantage of me. Like I mentioned before, I work long hours with a total of 3 children (under the age of 5) and I am in school. I have proven to be more than flexible and I arrive on time. I also do not get compensated every time. So how does that indicate that this isn't the job for me? Because I chose not to be taken advantage of? Because I am not an assistant that has agreed to work demanding hours all day long? I have a contract that states I work from this hour to this hour- abide by the rules! If I was late everyday, I would be fired! One rule can't apply to one person but not the other. I have every right to want to leave on the dot because that's in my contract!
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 16:38     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:You people should work on reading comprehension. PP said that "any job" out there lets you go home at 5 on the dot when work is supposed to end. That simply isn't true for the vast majority of jobs out there. Married to a physician who never has any clue when he is getting home, because a patient could show up to the hospital at 458, and it's his job to treat them, which takes more than 2 minutes. If it's a clinic day, a couple of late patients or a slow medical assistant can throw the schedule off for an entire day. My job technically ends at 5, but it's totally normal to have work that needs to be finished before I leave, causing me to stay later, or to have my boss sideline me with an important conversation as I'm trying to get out the door.

You should absolutely be compensated for your time, OP. But wanting to leave at 5 (or whatever time) on the dot may not be realistic for these parents if they have one of the many, many jobs in this world that sometimes require you to stay a few minutes late (without additional compensation!) And if that's the case, maybe this isn't the job for you.


Then you pay extra for that flexibility. You do not assume that it is just okay because you paid a few dollars extra. If you need someone to never make plans after work because you are often late, you pay a premium for that.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 14:11     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:You people should work on reading comprehension. PP said that "any job" out there lets you go home at 5 on the dot when work is supposed to end. That simply isn't true for the vast majority of jobs out there. Married to a physician who never has any clue when he is getting home, because a patient could show up to the hospital at 458, and it's his job to treat them, which takes more than 2 minutes. If it's a clinic day, a couple of late patients or a slow medical assistant can throw the schedule off for an entire day. My job technically ends at 5, but it's totally normal to have work that needs to be finished before I leave, causing me to stay later, or to have my boss sideline me with an important conversation as I'm trying to get out the door.

You should absolutely be compensated for your time, OP. But wanting to leave at 5 (or whatever time) on the dot may not be realistic for these parents if they have one of the many, many jobs in this world that sometimes require you to stay a few minutes late (without additional compensation!) And if that's the case, maybe this isn't the job for you.



Add that into your schedule, PP, and give the nanny a quitting time of 6 or 7PM to account for that possibility.

You and your husband are two adults - I am sure you can figure out for one of you to get home at the agreed upon time.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 14:07     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:You people should work on reading comprehension. PP said that "any job" out there lets you go home at 5 on the dot when work is supposed to end. That simply isn't true for the vast majority of jobs out there. Married to a physician who never has any clue when he is getting home, because a patient could show up to the hospital at 458, and it's his job to treat them, which takes more than 2 minutes. If it's a clinic day, a couple of late patients or a slow medical assistant can throw the schedule off for an entire day. My job technically ends at 5, but it's totally normal to have work that needs to be finished before I leave, causing me to stay later, or to have my boss sideline me with an important conversation as I'm trying to get out the door.

You should absolutely be compensated for your time, OP. But wanting to leave at 5 (or whatever time) on the dot may not be realistic for these parents if they have one of the many, many jobs in this world that sometimes require you to stay a few minutes late (without additional compensation!) And if that's the case, maybe this isn't the job for you.



Professionals generally account for possible emergencies. I am never late coming home to my children (and to relieve the nanny) because I work possible hold-ups into my time. Something I am home a full half-hour early and sometimes right on the dot - but never late.

I also do not tolerate lateness from my children's nanny.

Also let's remember that there are generally TWO parents - I think one parent can manage to get home on time.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 14:02     Subject: Tardiness
You people should work on reading comprehension. PP said that "any job" out there lets you go home at 5 on the dot when work is supposed to end. That simply isn't true for the vast majority of jobs out there. Married to a physician who never has any clue when he is getting home, because a patient could show up to the hospital at 458, and it's his job to treat them, which takes more than 2 minutes. If it's a clinic day, a couple of late patients or a slow medical assistant can throw the schedule off for an entire day. My job technically ends at 5, but it's totally normal to have work that needs to be finished before I leave, causing me to stay later, or to have my boss sideline me with an important conversation as I'm trying to get out the door.

You should absolutely be compensated for your time, OP. But wanting to leave at 5 (or whatever time) on the dot may not be realistic for these parents if they have one of the many, many jobs in this world that sometimes require you to stay a few minutes late (without additional compensation!) And if that's the case, maybe this isn't the job for you.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 13:55     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find the PP who stated that the OP should get over herself should understand that being late is what sets a Nanny apart from a childcare center!!

That response was the most outrageous "logic" I have ever heard of!!

Just like any job out there, employees deserve the respect + privilege to leave when they have completed their work shift.

Barring rare emergencies of course.


More evidence that you nannies have never held real jobs.



? I am a director at a large company and I am always home on time. Is my job not real because I am not late?



I am a physician and am never home late. I guess being an MD isn't a real job either.



I am an attorney and I am never home late either. All these years and I never knew that I didn't have a real job!
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 13:04     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find the PP who stated that the OP should get over herself should understand that being late is what sets a Nanny apart from a childcare center!!

That response was the most outrageous "logic" I have ever heard of!!

Just like any job out there, employees deserve the respect + privilege to leave when they have completed their work shift.

Barring rare emergencies of course.


More evidence that you nannies have never held real jobs.



? I am a director at a large company and I am always home on time. Is my job not real because I am not late?



I am a physician and am never home late. I guess being an MD isn't a real job either.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 09:06     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find the PP who stated that the OP should get over herself should understand that being late is what sets a Nanny apart from a childcare center!!

That response was the most outrageous "logic" I have ever heard of!!

Just like any job out there, employees deserve the respect + privilege to leave when they have completed their work shift.

Barring rare emergencies of course.


More evidence that you nannies have never held real jobs.



? I am a director at a large company and I am always home on time. Is my job not real because I am not late?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 07:48     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find the PP who stated that the OP should get over herself should understand that being late is what sets a Nanny apart from a childcare center!!

That response was the most outrageous "logic" I have ever heard of!!

Just like any job out there, employees deserve the respect + privilege to leave when they have completed their work shift.

Barring rare emergencies of course.


More evidence that you nannies have never held real jobs.


So being a nanny isn't a real job? Probably one of the hardest jobs out there! You're responsible for the well-being of (maybe multiple) children, that are not yours!
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2017 06:24     Subject: Tardiness
Anonymous wrote:I find the PP who stated that the OP should get over herself should understand that being late is what sets a Nanny apart from a childcare center!!

That response was the most outrageous "logic" I have ever heard of!!

Just like any job out there, employees deserve the respect + privilege to leave when they have completed their work shift.

Barring rare emergencies of course.


More evidence that you nannies have never held real jobs.