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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.

I still think it's kind of bizarre that you think that you know more about medicine than a doctor. Who do you think is going to be assessing him at the hospital? Wizards?
If the baby wasn't dehydrated enough to warrant an iv, then there isn't much they are going to do at the hospital.

I'm in school for pediatric nursing. I may not know everything but I know when it's times to take the baby in. The baby did need an IV. They kept him for about 2 hours and had him on an IV and gave him anti-nausea meds and tylenol. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and the nanny was in charge, people would be siding with the parents. They were in the wrong. I was in the situation to better assess him because they see him maybe a total of 2 hours throughout the entire week. This board is full of nanny haters when you should knew thankful of nannies who do the jobs you aren't willing to do.

Your story has seemed off this whole time and NOW I call troll. Disregarding your made up "pediatric nursing" school track no 6 month old that needed IV fluids would have been kept in and ED for 2 hours...and they definitely wouldn't have given zofran. Nice try OP.

How do you know op isn't in school? What is your medical background? I've worked in a hospital for years where fluids and nausea medication had Bren administered to adult and pediatric patients. You don't seem knowledgable about what happens in an emergency room.

I am going to guess that she works in an academic hospital where this probably wouldn't happen. But it happens in the community all of the time. It does kind of go to show you that the parents were right though, and the baby wasn't that sick. Certainly not sick enough that he needed to be taken in days earlier.

I have to say that I am also having trouble believing that the OP works something like 160 hours a week for this couple who literally never see their own child AND is in nursing school.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I can't really remember the exact hours but I know because I put him to bed ( he had a wet diaper). The next morning ( he sleeps 11-12 hours) the mom said he didn't have a wet diaper that morning. We started with small amounts of formula more frequently. Throughout my 11.5 hour day shift, he had not had a wet diaper. I put him to bed and the next morning, they took him in because he didn't have a wet diaper and he looked worse. They are both physicians and DB said he was not showing any true signs of dehydration and showed me what to look for. I was stunned because they have always been amazing parents.

Wait! The parents are doctors?!? That's clearly something you should have included upfront. 24 hours w/o wet diapers is just a guideline for non-medical professionals. These parents were capable of doing a dehydration assessment themselves. My DH is a peds ED doc and our kids (3 and 1) have had 0 ED visits and 0 sick visits to their regular ped between them; 1 of our kids has had 1 visit to PM Pediatrics (essentially an Urgent Care facility) because my DH was afraid they had broken a bone (and they had). This isn't bad parenting it's having a doctor for a parent.

+1 The thread should be titled Bad (judgement) Nanny!!

no.

The parents might not be 'bad' per se but OP you are definitely a good nanny.

Sounds to me like these parents are calm, educated, people with lots of clinical training.

I'm guessing the baby is fine now.

You need to show more respect for the parents and less histrionics OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.

I still think it's kind of bizarre that you think that you know more about medicine than a doctor. Who do you think is going to be assessing him at the hospital? Wizards?
If the baby wasn't dehydrated enough to warrant an iv, then there isn't much they are going to do at the hospital.

I'm in school for pediatric nursing. I may not know everything but I know when it's times to take the baby in. The baby did need an IV. They kept him for about 2 hours and had him on an IV and gave him anti-nausea meds and tylenol. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and the nanny was in charge, people would be siding with the parents. They were in the wrong. I was in the situation to better assess him because they see him maybe a total of 2 hours throughout the entire week. This board is full of nanny haters when you should knew thankful of nannies who do the jobs you aren't willing to do.

Your story has seemed off this whole time and NOW I call troll. Disregarding your made up "pediatric nursing" school track no 6 month old that needed IV fluids would have been kept in and ED for 2 hours...and they definitely wouldn't have given zofran. Nice try OP.

How do you know op isn't in school? What is your medical background? I've worked in a hospital for years where fluids and nausea medication had Bren administered to adult and pediatric patients. You don't seem knowledgable about what happens in an emergency room.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.

I still think it's kind of bizarre that you think that you know more about medicine than a doctor. Who do you think is going to be assessing him at the hospital? Wizards?
If the baby wasn't dehydrated enough to warrant an iv, then there isn't much they are going to do at the hospital.

I'm in school for pediatric nursing. I may not know everything but I know when it's times to take the baby in. The baby did need an IV. They kept him for about 2 hours and had him on an IV and gave him anti-nausea meds and tylenol. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and the nanny was in charge, people would be siding with the parents. They were in the wrong. I was in the situation to better assess him because they see him maybe a total of 2 hours throughout the entire week. This board is full of nanny haters when you should knew thankful of nannies who do the jobs you aren't willing to do.

Your story has seemed off this whole time and NOW I call troll. Disregarding your made up "pediatric nursing" school track no 6 month old that needed IV fluids would have been kept in and ED for 2 hours...and they definitely wouldn't have given zofran. Nice try OP.

I'm an mb. My 5 month old had a bad bug that made him dehydrated. He was given fluids and an anti-nausea medicine. They kept him for 3 hours to monitor him. What is your medical background, captain know it all?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, they're shitty parents. But as his caregiver, why didn't you take him to urgent care/the hospital if you knew something was wrong?

Caregivers are not guardians. They can't authorize any care for the child.

My last employers gave me medical authorization. I could take NKs in, and did often. I suggest nannies push for this...

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.

I still think it's kind of bizarre that you think that you know more about medicine than a doctor. Who do you think is going to be assessing him at the hospital? Wizards?
If the baby wasn't dehydrated enough to warrant an iv, then there isn't much they are going to do at the hospital.

I'm in school for pediatric nursing. I may not know everything but I know when it's times to take the baby in. The baby did need an IV. They kept him for about 2 hours and had him on an IV and gave him anti-nausea meds and tylenol. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and the nanny was in charge, people would be siding with the parents. They were in the wrong. I was in the situation to better assess him because they see him maybe a total of 2 hours throughout the entire week. This board is full of nanny haters when you should knew thankful of nannies who do the jobs you aren't willing to do.

Your story has seemed off this whole time and NOW I call troll. Disregarding your made up "pediatric nursing" school track no 6 month old that needed IV fluids would have been kept in and ED for 2 hours...and they definitely wouldn't have given zofran. Nice try OP.

The parents sound selfish. It's sad they cared more about a date night than checking in on their own child.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with poster at 20:44. This nanny was clearly advocating for this baby and the parents/doctors completely ignored her. They clearly think they are smarter than a simple nanny with no medical training. I am in nursing school and believe me not eliminating urine and projectile vomiting over 24h warrant concern with healthcare providers. Won't get into the science here but I am very shocked at the actions of these supposedly doctor parents. Nanny should report this to child protective services something shady is going on here.

Concern, yes. But they don't actually DO anything until they see signs of clinical dehydration.

Also, he clearly wasn't projectile vomiting all of his bottles because the parents were feeding him and didn't see it.

Do you know what's dangerous? A lot of unnecessary trips to the petri dish known as the doctor's office.

And the child is fine. So, clearly, he did not need to have intervention days earlier. And yes, those parents were qualified to determine that.

You know what, OP, report these parents to CPS. You think they are neglectful, and if you really believe they withheld life-saving treatment, they should be reported.

I agree with poster at 20:44. This nanny was clearly advocating for this baby and the parents/doctors completely ignored her. They clearly think they are smarter than a simple nanny with no medical training. I am in nursing school and believe me not eliminating urine and projectile vomiting over 24h warrant concern with healthcare providers. Won't get into the science here but I am very shocked at the actions of these supposedly doctor parents. Nanny should report this to child protective services something shady is going on here.

Children of doctors are the same as the cobbler's children have no shoes.

The reason she didn't mention that he's a doctor is that he hadn't actually seen his kid. You can be the world's greatest pediatric specialist but if you haven't actually seen your kid that day then you should rely on an experienced nanny's opinion.

Sounds like dad saw the kid for half an hour in the morning, kid was throwing up all fluids and had no wet diapers all day (after doing the same the day before and overnight), so by bedtime (12 hours after dad had seen the kid and 24 hours after the last wet diaper) nanny was strongly advocating for the child to be taken to urgent care. If dad came home at that point to examine the kid and THEN determined that they were fine to go on a date instead of take their kid into urgent care, then that would be one thing, but the parents ignored both standard medical advice and the opinion of the person actually with the child so that they wouldn't miss date night and ended up with a kid on an IV.

OP, if you are going to be a nurse, you should know that doctors think they know more than everyone and will comepletely ignore the opinion of anyone who doesn't have an MD even if they have lots of actual hands-on experience. I had a doctor DB who insisted that he needed to hydrate a vomiting child by giving him a full bottle of milk immediately after he threw up. The kid went 6 hours without being able to keep anything down before dad finally let me try my approach (wait 20 minutes after throwing up and start with only small sips instead of an 8oz bottle) and the kid was miraculously able to actually keep some fluids down.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.

I still think it's kind of bizarre that you think that you know more about medicine than a doctor. Who do you think is going to be assessing him at the hospital? Wizards?
If the baby wasn't dehydrated enough to warrant an iv, then there isn't much they are going to do at the hospital.

I'm in school for pediatric nursing. I may not know everything but I know when it's times to take the baby in. The baby did need an IV. They kept him for about 2 hours and had him on an IV and gave him anti-nausea meds and tylenol. I'm sure if the roles were reversed and the nanny was in charge, people would be siding with the parents. They were in the wrong. I was in the situation to better assess him because they see him maybe a total of 2 hours throughout the entire week. This board is full of nanny haters when you should knew thankful of nannies who do the jobs you aren't willing to do.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.

I still think it's kind of bizarre that you think that you know more about medicine than a doctor. Who do you think is going to be assessing him at the hospital? Wizards?
If the baby wasn't dehydrated enough to warrant an iv, then there isn't much they are going to do at the hospital.

Op here. Maybe I am explaining it wrong but DB told me about the signs on like day 3. This was going on day 5 of baby spitting up 90% of his bottles. The day they went on a date night, they had not see him all day except for a half hour in the morning. The night prior, I put him to bed at 6pm and he had not had a wet diaper when he woke up at 6am that morning. He didn't have any wet diapers all day. I put him to bed at 6pm ( 24 hours without a wet diaper) before they MB and DB came home. I told them he should knew taken in because he still couldn't hold down his formula and didn't have wet diapers for 24 hours. MB said she was worried but they still went out that night. They took him into immediate care 8/9am the next day. He had still not had a wet diaper which would have been 36+ hours. Regardless of being a resident physician, they should have taken him in. They hadn't been able to properly assess him because they hadn't seen him all day long.