Anonymous
Post 02/26/2017 18:04     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
00:50,
You do realize that nannies have to manage their own house and cars etc.? I know how much work it is. I also know that, as I posted, lots of moms on the other side of the site claim that all that stuff you listed is not part of their job description as a SAHM. How many SAHMs of young kids do you really know who are doing their own home repairs? Some of them may be doing all of their cleaning but I'm guessing they do it mostly on weekends when their spouse can watch the kids (which is when I deep clean my own home), and during rhe week they either tidy up (as I do at work and then subsequently at my own home) or many of then don't even do that because it's just too hard. I'm sure you're quite proud of your 6 structured classes per week. If you knew more about child development you might know that open-ended outings and sensory exploration are better for toddlers than structured classes but you do you.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2017 00:50     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously, how did SAHM's keep the household and kids in good shape before the invention of the dishwasher, washing machine? Kids simply didn't get undivided attention all day- because they don't need it.
As a mom of 4- you can put baby in bouncy seat and let toddlers run around a couple rooms with baby gates, while I or nanny gets house stuff done.

There is no way I'm coming home from my strenuous 10 hour day at work to just spend the rest of the night doing laundry, cooking and running errands. That is my nanny's job- and she's awesome and well paid.


I am a nanny who handles all kid laundry, grocery shops and makes all their food from scratch, etc. I do a lot more than most SAHMs today. But let's cut the good old days crap, please. The reality is that in the time you're describing before the 20th century, many many working class kids did not survive childhood. Furthermore, the vast majority of parenting before the last 50 years included tactics that would be cause for CPS intervention today. Kids were regularly beaten, locked up, starved and molested throughout most of human history. So let's just talk about the facts of here and now, okay? Here and now, we have a pretty good idea od what kids need to thrive--sufficient food, loving and responsive caregivers and a clean, safe environment. Whether a nanny can meet those needs while adding other tasks depends on how demanding the baby is, how demanding the tasks are and how energetic, efficient and experienced the nanny is.


No you don't, but please keep telling yourself that. You don't take care of everything in the household you do the things for kids. There is far more than just that.


A) that was so not the point of that post

B) Again, I refer you to any SAHM thread on the main page where moms describe their job as exclusively caring for the children. I am with my charges for all waking hours Monday-Friday, and in that time I manage all of their laundry, shop for the household and do dry cleaning runs weekly, make all of the kids' food 7 days per week from scratch and make some food for the parents (packing lunches, making extra of breakfast items like muffins and making dinner about once a week). I stay on top of kids' outgrown clothing and order more diapers and supplies as needed and keep track of their appointments. I keep all of the kids' toys organized and tidy and parent return home to clean, fed kids and a tidy house 5 nights per week. The kids have 2 non-drop-off language classes each week and have outdoor time, an excursion and a planned sensory art or science project daily. That is more than many SAHMs, though I am sure others accomplish as much in a given day.


Actually, no, its not more than a SAHM would do because you are not including the entire household's needs. You are keeping the house tidy, that is not cleaning. You are not paying the bills. You are not taking care of the cars. You are not doing household repairs. And two classes a week is nothing. My kids are in 6 day a week activities. I hope you are never a parent as it might be hard for you to manage everything given you don't realize how much more is involved. Oh, sensory stuff is a fake for kids without SN.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 23:10     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously, how did SAHM's keep the household and kids in good shape before the invention of the dishwasher, washing machine? Kids simply didn't get undivided attention all day- because they don't need it.
As a mom of 4- you can put baby in bouncy seat and let toddlers run around a couple rooms with baby gates, while I or nanny gets house stuff done.

There is no way I'm coming home from my strenuous 10 hour day at work to just spend the rest of the night doing laundry, cooking and running errands. That is my nanny's job- and she's awesome and well paid.


I am a nanny who handles all kid laundry, grocery shops and makes all their food from scratch, etc. I do a lot more than most SAHMs today. But let's cut the good old days crap, please. The reality is that in the time you're describing before the 20th century, many many working class kids did not survive childhood. Furthermore, the vast majority of parenting before the last 50 years included tactics that would be cause for CPS intervention today. Kids were regularly beaten, locked up, starved and molested throughout most of human history. So let's just talk about the facts of here and now, okay? Here and now, we have a pretty good idea od what kids need to thrive--sufficient food, loving and responsive caregivers and a clean, safe environment. Whether a nanny can meet those needs while adding other tasks depends on how demanding the baby is, how demanding the tasks are and how energetic, efficient and experienced the nanny is.


No you don't, but please keep telling yourself that. You don't take care of everything in the household you do the things for kids. There is far more than just that.


A) that was so not the point of that post

B) Again, I refer you to any SAHM thread on the main page where moms describe their job as exclusively caring for the children. I am with my charges for all waking hours Monday-Friday, and in that time I manage all of their laundry, shop for the household and do dry cleaning runs weekly, make all of the kids' food 7 days per week from scratch and make some food for the parents (packing lunches, making extra of breakfast items like muffins and making dinner about once a week). I stay on top of kids' outgrown clothing and order more diapers and supplies as needed and keep track of their appointments. I keep all of the kids' toys organized and tidy and parent return home to clean, fed kids and a tidy house 5 nights per week. The kids have 2 non-drop-off language classes each week and have outdoor time, an excursion and a planned sensory art or science project daily. That is more than many SAHMs, though I am sure others accomplish as much in a given day.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 23:09     Subject: Re:"Extra" nanny responsibilities
The family I work for has a full-time housekeeper and a chef as well as a nurse for the newborn. I have my masters in Early Childhood Education and was hired to teach the now two-year-old (he was three months when I started). He is amazing - knows all his letters and numbers at just two years old and has an extraordinary imagination as well as great reasoning skills. He is the happiest and most loving child I have ever known.

There are all different kinds of nannies and all different kinds of employers.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 20:19     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously, how did SAHM's keep the household and kids in good shape before the invention of the dishwasher, washing machine? Kids simply didn't get undivided attention all day- because they don't need it.
As a mom of 4- you can put baby in bouncy seat and let toddlers run around a couple rooms with baby gates, while I or nanny gets house stuff done.

There is no way I'm coming home from my strenuous 10 hour day at work to just spend the rest of the night doing laundry, cooking and running errands. That is my nanny's job- and she's awesome and well paid.


I am a nanny who handles all kid laundry, grocery shops and makes all their food from scratch, etc. I do a lot more than most SAHMs today. But let's cut the good old days crap, please. The reality is that in the time you're describing before the 20th century, many many working class kids did not survive childhood. Furthermore, the vast majority of parenting before the last 50 years included tactics that would be cause for CPS intervention today. Kids were regularly beaten, locked up, starved and molested throughout most of human history. So let's just talk about the facts of here and now, okay? Here and now, we have a pretty good idea od what kids need to thrive--sufficient food, loving and responsive caregivers and a clean, safe environment. Whether a nanny can meet those needs while adding other tasks depends on how demanding the baby is, how demanding the tasks are and how energetic, efficient and experienced the nanny is.


No you don't, but please keep telling yourself that. You don't take care of everything in the household you do the things for kids. There is far more than just that.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 20:14     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no reason that, for the right price, a nanny can't do all the tasks that a SAHM would do (including dishes, cooking, laundry etc. just not deep cleaning).

If a SAHM was EITHER just a teacher or housekeeper, they would be a failure.

I only spend the extra cost of getting a nanny because they can do both things- just like me if I were home.
If I simply wanted "teaching" I would go to a daycare where they have all the appropriate age props to help kids develop.


This is my thought. How can a nanny only sit and care for a child when a SAHM does everything. However, not all babies nap and some need extra attention.



Why do stay at home mom's need nanny? Please correct first you are looking for housekeeper not nanny to do all your work loads.


She's (correctly) pointing out that someone can expect a nanny do to all the things in 10 hours that a SAHM does in 10 hours.


Have you visited the parenting board and seen the posts by sahms? There are days when they are happy to wash and dry one load of clothes.


I've been a SAHM. While what you say is true some days, over the course of a week, everything gets done.


It depends on the child(ren), schedule and caregiver. Please, go peruse the SAHM posts. I do, and I sympathize. When you try to do everything, something has to give.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 18:30     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no reason that, for the right price, a nanny can't do all the tasks that a SAHM would do (including dishes, cooking, laundry etc. just not deep cleaning).

If a SAHM was EITHER just a teacher or housekeeper, they would be a failure.

I only spend the extra cost of getting a nanny because they can do both things- just like me if I were home.
If I simply wanted "teaching" I would go to a daycare where they have all the appropriate age props to help kids develop.


This is my thought. How can a nanny only sit and care for a child when a SAHM does everything. However, not all babies nap and some need extra attention.



Why do stay at home mom's need nanny? Please correct first you are looking for housekeeper not nanny to do all your work loads.


She's (correctly) pointing out that someone can expect a nanny do to all the things in 10 hours that a SAHM does in 10 hours.


Have you visited the parenting board and seen the posts by sahms? There are days when they are happy to wash and dry one load of clothes.


I've been a SAHM. While what you say is true some days, over the course of a week, everything gets done.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 17:59     Subject: "Extra" nanny responsibilities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no reason that, for the right price, a nanny can't do all the tasks that a SAHM would do (including dishes, cooking, laundry etc. just not deep cleaning).

If a SAHM was EITHER just a teacher or housekeeper, they would be a failure.

I only spend the extra cost of getting a nanny because they can do both things- just like me if I were home.
If I simply wanted "teaching" I would go to a daycare where they have all the appropriate age props to help kids develop.


This is my thought. How can a nanny only sit and care for a child when a SAHM does everything. However, not all babies nap and some need extra attention.



Why do stay at home mom's need nanny? Please correct first you are looking for housekeeper not nanny to do all your work loads.


She's (correctly) pointing out that someone can expect a nanny do to all the things in 10 hours that a SAHM does in 10 hours.


Have you visited the parenting board and seen the posts by sahms? There are days when they are happy to wash and dry one load of clothes.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2017 15:51     Subject: Re:"Extra" nanny responsibilities
You don't care what we say, OP. Do what you want and demand the world from your employee. Who the fuck cares as long as your life is easier and you have to spend as little time as possible with your child or at home.

Do what you want. You will find someone.