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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

That's great if they do, but it should not be an exception as it is NOT a federal holiday but rather a vacation day for most. To tell everyone it is a paid holiday for child care staff is silly given your providing care is based on the employer having employment (in less they are wealthy) and if they work, you work.

I assume you meant to say that it should not be an expectation. OP asked whether it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work on the day after Thanksgiving. I was explaining to her why a nanny might be surprised by this request. If one works in an industry where a certain day is typically treated as a paid holiday, it is not unreasonable for one to be put off by a request to work on that day.

That does not mean every family needs to treat the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday, that is not what I was saying at all. I never "told everyone it was a paid holiday". Good grief.

Each family can determine their needs and go from there.

Yes, it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work. Nanny got sick. OP agreed to let her off and be decent about it. She wanted to do a trial day to make sure everything is ok. OP suggested Friday. Nanny said it is a holiday. It is not a holiday. I don't know any industries where it is a paid holiday. I know some employers trade Black Friday for other federal holidays but it still isn't a federal holiday.

OP needs a trial day. Yes, it was reasonable.

Again, I never said it was a federal holiday. Why are you so determined to argue with me? It's okay for OP to ask the nanny to work that day, and it is okay for the nanny to decline. She might be accustomed to having the day off because of the industry she is in. She might have family in town. Or she simply might have already made other commitments she doesn't want to break, who knows. No one is making the assertion that it is a federal holiday.

Nannies typically have the day off. That's a fact. That doesn't mean it was wrong of the OP to ask the nanny to work that day, especially considering her scheduling conflicts regarding other days. It sounds like the nanny also had scheduling conflicts for today.

You sound very entitled to think a shopping day is a holiday. Its great if an employer is off and can give a nanny off but it is not a holiday, but a work day.

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

That's great if they do, but it should not be an exception as it is NOT a federal holiday but rather a vacation day for most. To tell everyone it is a paid holiday for child care staff is silly given your providing care is based on the employer having employment (in less they are wealthy) and if they work, you work.

I assume you meant to say that it should not be an expectation. OP asked whether it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work on the day after Thanksgiving. I was explaining to her why a nanny might be surprised by this request. If one works in an industry where a certain day is typically treated as a paid holiday, it is not unreasonable for one to be put off by a request to work on that day.

That does not mean every family needs to treat the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday, that is not what I was saying at all. I never "told everyone it was a paid holiday". Good grief.

Each family can determine their needs and go from there.

Yes, it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work. Nanny got sick. OP agreed to let her off and be decent about it. She wanted to do a trial day to make sure everything is ok. OP suggested Friday. Nanny said it is a holiday. It is not a holiday. I don't know any industries where it is a paid holiday. I know some employers trade Black Friday for other federal holidays but it still isn't a federal holiday.

OP needs a trial day. Yes, it was reasonable.

Again, I never said it was a federal holiday. Why are you so determined to argue with me? It's okay for OP to ask the nanny to work that day, and it is okay for the nanny to decline. She might be accustomed to having the day off because of the industry she is in. She might have family in town. Or she simply might have already made other commitments she doesn't want to break, who knows. No one is making the assertion that it is a federal holiday.

Nannies typically have the day off. That's a fact. That doesn't mean it was wrong of the OP to ask the nanny to work that day, especially considering her scheduling conflicts regarding other days. It sounds like the nanny also had scheduling conflicts for today.

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

That's great if they do, but it should not be an exception as it is NOT a federal holiday but rather a vacation day for most. To tell everyone it is a paid holiday for child care staff is silly given your providing care is based on the employer having employment (in less they are wealthy) and if they work, you work.

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

That's great if they do, but it should not be an exception as it is NOT a federal holiday but rather a vacation day for most. To tell everyone it is a paid holiday for child care staff is silly given your providing care is based on the employer having employment (in less they are wealthy) and if they work, you work.

I assume you meant to say that it should not be an expectation. OP asked whether it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work on the day after Thanksgiving. I was explaining to her why a nanny might be surprised by this request. If one works in an industry where a certain day is typically treated as a paid holiday, it is not unreasonable for one to be put off by a request to work on that day.

That does not mean every family needs to treat the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday, that is not what I was saying at all. I never "told everyone it was a paid holiday". Good grief.

Each family can determine their needs and go from there.

Yes, it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work. Nanny got sick. OP agreed to let her off and be decent about it. She wanted to do a trial day to make sure everything is ok. OP suggested Friday. Nanny said it is a holiday. It is not a holiday. I don't know any industries where it is a paid holiday. I know some employers trade Black Friday for other federal holidays but it still isn't a federal holiday.

OP needs a trial day. Yes, it was reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

That's great if they do, but it should not be an exception as it is NOT a federal holiday but rather a vacation day for most. To tell everyone it is a paid holiday for child care staff is silly given your providing care is based on the employer having employment (in less they are wealthy) and if they work, you work.

I assume you meant to say that it should not be an expectation. OP asked whether it was reasonable to ask the nanny to work on the day after Thanksgiving. I was explaining to her why a nanny might be surprised by this request. If one works in an industry where a certain day is typically treated as a paid holiday, it is not unreasonable for one to be put off by a request to work on that day.

That does not mean every family needs to treat the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday, that is not what I was saying at all. I never "told everyone it was a paid holiday". Good grief.

Each family can determine their needs and go from there.

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

That's great if they do, but it should not be an exception as it is NOT a federal holiday but rather a vacation day for most. To tell everyone it is a paid holiday for child care staff is silly given your providing care is based on the employer having employment (in less they are wealthy) and if they work, you work.

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll.
Nanny is supposed to work Monday Tuesday Thursday.
OP claims nanny is supposed to start Wednesday.

Those two statements contradict each other.
If nanny is supposed to start next week AFTER Wednesday, have her come in Monday or Tuesday as a trial day. It isn't rocket science.

Anonymous wrote:We hired a new nanny two weeks ago. We planned a trial day for Monday but she was sick. She starts Wednesday and I asked her to come Friday at 8am. She said no because it's a holiday. Am I being unreasonable to expect her to come on Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

I understand. That doesn't refute what I wrote, though. I worked in the industry for many years and part of my job was writing the nanny-family agreements. Almost 100% of the families included the day after Thanksgiving as a paid holiday.

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Anonymous wrote:I know zero families who ask their nannies to work on the day after Thanksgiving. Many even write it into their agreements as a holiday. Sometimes it is in lieu of another holiday, such as Columbus Day, and other times it is just an additional holiday.

Very few jobs give black friday off as a holiday. Parents must take leave or flex. We work tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:Black Friday is a shopping day, not a holiday. You should not pay her double or extra. She canceled on you and you are asking her to make up the day. That is reasonable.

Im a Government employee earning double time and a half today because its a holiday....so it certainly is a holiday.

Anonymous wrote:Black Friday is a shopping day, not a holiday. You should not pay her double or extra. She canceled on you and you are asking her to make up the day. That is reasonable.