Anonymous
Post 08/12/2016 11:17     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Are you even a nanny? You don't sound like a good one. Babies require lots of clothes washing and they need special detergent. I've had to wash several different loads for baby every week. I make food by scratch but you will still be cooking for older child. A baby still can she toys and activity mats at 2-3 months. Putting bottles in dishwasher with other dishes is disgusting. Plus, it's easier to wash all by hand. My to mention sterilizing the baby bottles, toys, and items on a daily or weekly basis. The nanny is doing double the work. I guess you can't comprehend that because you're a mediocre nanny who does the bare minimum. Sad for whoever employs you.


Look, you do whatever you like. But I'm a mother of three, and to me much of what you describe is a load of tosh to make yourself feel more important.

Here are some of the things I've never done:

- used special detergent for baby clothes
- washed baby clothes by hand
- washed baby bottles separately from other dishes or by hand
- sterilized baby bottles or toys

I would not dream of asking the nanny to do any of that silly stuff because I'm hiring her to do what matters - engage and be with my children. Instead of wasting time on putting rattles through a thermal chamber to kill off whatever deadly germs you think are lurking there.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2016 17:54     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny employer, I agree that $1/hour is not enough. That equates to doubling her work load for a measly 40 bucks a week.

I think at least $2 per hour is more appropriate, and would say the typical increase is $2-$5 per hour.

I agree with you on the raise, but just a minor quibble: her workload is not doubling. She isn't doing twice as much. She just gives less to each kid per kid - same as a mother would do when a second child comes on board.



Her workload is doubling. She is doing twice as much. She now will do double the laundry, double the dishes, double the toy pickup, double the meal prep when baby starts to eat, etc. How do you not see that she is doing double the work? Not to mention that an infant and toddler have different needs and different schedules. It can be a struggle to manage both depending on parental philosophies.


Err...she isn't doing the laundry by hand, and the washing machine takes the same time to wash 10 onesies that it does to wash 10 onesies and 10 shorts. I give you folding, but washing? Nah.

Same for dishes. The dishwasher takes the same amount of time regardless of how full it is.

It will be quite some time before the baby starts tossing toys around. At that point the older child can pick up his own damn toys.

Meal prep, eh, not all nannies do baby food from scratch, and opening a tub of baby food is hardly work.

She's doing more work, for sure. Absolutely. But not double. Because each child isn't getting one of her, each child is getting half of her. Most of her work isn't about anything you said - not laundry, not meal prep, not dishwashing - it's about face time with each child.



Are you even a nanny? You don't sound like a good one. Babies require lots of clothes washing and they need special detergent. I've had to wash several different loads for baby every week. I make food by scratch but you will still be cooking for older child. A baby still can she toys and activity mats at 2-3 months. Putting bottles in dishwasher with other dishes is disgusting. Plus, it's easier to wash all by hand. My to mention sterilizing the baby bottles, toys, and items on a daily or weekly basis. The nanny is doing double the work. I guess you can't comprehend that because you're a mediocre nanny who does the bare minimum. Sad for whoever employs you.

She isn't even a nanny.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2016 17:46     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny employer, I agree that $1/hour is not enough. That equates to doubling her work load for a measly 40 bucks a week.

I think at least $2 per hour is more appropriate, and would say the typical increase is $2-$5 per hour.

I agree with you on the raise, but just a minor quibble: her workload is not doubling. She isn't doing twice as much. She just gives less to each kid per kid - same as a mother would do when a second child comes on board.



Her workload is doubling. She is doing twice as much. She now will do double the laundry, double the dishes, double the toy pickup, double the meal prep when baby starts to eat, etc. How do you not see that she is doing double the work? Not to mention that an infant and toddler have different needs and different schedules. It can be a struggle to manage both depending on parental philosophies.


Err...she isn't doing the laundry by hand, and the washing machine takes the same time to wash 10 onesies that it does to wash 10 onesies and 10 shorts. I give you folding, but washing? Nah.

Same for dishes. The dishwasher takes the same amount of time regardless of how full it is.

It will be quite some time before the baby starts tossing toys around. At that point the older child can pick up his own damn toys.

Meal prep, eh, not all nannies do baby food from scratch, and opening a tub of baby food is hardly work.

She's doing more work, for sure. Absolutely. But not double. Because each child isn't getting one of her, each child is getting half of her. Most of her work isn't about anything you said - not laundry, not meal prep, not dishwashing - it's about face time with each child.



Are you even a nanny? You don't sound like a good one. Babies require lots of clothes washing and they need special detergent. I've had to wash several different loads for baby every week. I make food by scratch but you will still be cooking for older child. A baby still can she toys and activity mats at 2-3 months. Putting bottles in dishwasher with other dishes is disgusting. Plus, it's easier to wash all by hand. My to mention sterilizing the baby bottles, toys, and items on a daily or weekly basis. The nanny is doing double the work. I guess you can't comprehend that because you're a mediocre nanny who does the bare minimum. Sad for whoever employs you.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2016 13:21     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When my MB (who is a pediatrician and knows just how much work kids and babies really are) announced her pregnancy she offered to increase my pay 50% once I was responsible for the new baby.

Pediatricians don't know how much work kids and babies are any more than any other person. They know about sick kids and treating them. Pediatricians aren't specialists in nanny care or child psychology.

Good pediatricians certainly should understand what environmental factors are likely to have negative consequences.

Medically, yes. Not in other ways. They are not trained in this.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2016 13:03     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When my MB (who is a pediatrician and knows just how much work kids and babies really are) announced her pregnancy she offered to increase my pay 50% once I was responsible for the new baby.

Pediatricians don't know how much work kids and babies are any more than any other person. They know about sick kids and treating them. Pediatricians aren't specialists in nanny care or child psychology.

Good pediatricians certainly should understand what environmental factors are likely to have negative consequences.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2016 12:30     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:When my MB (who is a pediatrician and knows just how much work kids and babies really are) announced her pregnancy she offered to increase my pay 50% once I was responsible for the new baby.

Pediatricians don't know how much work kids and babies are any more than any other person. They know about sick kids and treating them. Pediatricians aren't specialists in nanny care or child psychology.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 22:57     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:Op here thanks! Should oldest will be in presvhool 3 mornings/wk now


All the better reason to pay her the standard $1/hr raise for the second child. Her workload is not doubling. If she thinks that, she is a poor nanny with limited skills.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 22:46     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:When my MB (who is a pediatrician and knows just how much work kids and babies really are) announced her pregnancy she offered to increase my pay 50% once I was responsible for the new baby.


+1,000,000

Finally, a smart parent with real brains!!
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 22:05     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny employer, I agree that $1/hour is not enough. That equates to doubling her work load for a measly 40 bucks a week.

I think at least $2 per hour is more appropriate, and would say the typical increase is $2-$5 per hour.

I agree with you on the raise, but just a minor quibble: her workload is not doubling. She isn't doing twice as much. She just gives less to each kid per kid - same as a mother would do when a second child comes on board.



Her workload is doubling. She is doing twice as much. She now will do double the laundry, double the dishes, double the toy pickup, double the meal prep when baby starts to eat, etc. How do you not see that she is doing double the work? Not to mention that an infant and toddler have different needs and different schedules. It can be a struggle to manage both depending on parental philosophies.


Err...she isn't doing the laundry by hand, and the washing machine takes the same time to wash 10 onesies that it does to wash 10 onesies and 10 shorts. I give you folding, but washing? Nah.

No offense or disrespect to this PP, but in all honesty this really is the most stupid/dumbest "logic" I have ever heard.

Talk about comparing lemons to kiwis.

Same for dishes. The dishwasher takes the same amount of time regardless of how full it is.

It will be quite some time before the baby starts tossing toys around. At that point the older child can pick up his own damn toys.

Meal prep, eh, not all nannies do baby food from scratch, and opening a tub of baby food is hardly work.

She's doing more work, for sure. Absolutely. But not double. Because each child isn't getting one of her, each child is getting half of her. Most of her work isn't about anything you said - not laundry, not meal prep, not dishwashing - it's about face time with each child.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 20:50     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

When my MB (who is a pediatrician and knows just how much work kids and babies really are) announced her pregnancy she offered to increase my pay 50% once I was responsible for the new baby.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 18:39     Subject: Re:Salary question for newe baby

Op here thanks! Should oldest will be in presvhool 3 mornings/wk now
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 14:01     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

I did it for six months during my mat leave, and I'm doing it now in the evenings and weekends. I'm being very honest with you. I am doing more work overall but less per child.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 13:44     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny employer, I agree that $1/hour is not enough. That equates to doubling her work load for a measly 40 bucks a week.

I think at least $2 per hour is more appropriate, and would say the typical increase is $2-$5 per hour.

I agree with you on the raise, but just a minor quibble: her workload is not doubling. She isn't doing twice as much. She just gives less to each kid per kid - same as a mother would do when a second child comes on board.



Her workload is doubling. She is doing twice as much. She now will do double the laundry, double the dishes, double the toy pickup, double the meal prep when baby starts to eat, etc. How do you not see that she is doing double the work? Not to mention that an infant and toddler have different needs and different schedules. It can be a struggle to manage both depending on parental philosophies.


Err...she isn't doing the laundry by hand, and the washing machine takes the same time to wash 10 onesies that it does to wash 10 onesies and 10 shorts. I give you folding, but washing? Nah.

Same for dishes. The dishwasher takes the same amount of time regardless of how full it is.

It will be quite some time before the baby starts tossing toys around. At that point the older child can pick up his own damn toys.

Meal prep, eh, not all nannies do baby food from scratch, and opening a tub of baby food is hardly work.

She's doing more work, for sure. Absolutely. But not double. Because each child isn't getting one of her, each child is getting half of her. Most of her work isn't about anything you said - not laundry, not meal prep, not dishwashing - it's about face time with each child.

Ha! There's a reason why you aren't doing it.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 13:37     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny employer, I agree that $1/hour is not enough. That equates to doubling her work load for a measly 40 bucks a week.

I think at least $2 per hour is more appropriate, and would say the typical increase is $2-$5 per hour.

I agree with you on the raise, but just a minor quibble: her workload is not doubling. She isn't doing twice as much. She just gives less to each kid per kid - same as a mother would do when a second child comes on board.



Her workload is doubling. She is doing twice as much. She now will do double the laundry, double the dishes, double the toy pickup, double the meal prep when baby starts to eat, etc. How do you not see that she is doing double the work? Not to mention that an infant and toddler have different needs and different schedules. It can be a struggle to manage both depending on parental philosophies.


Err...she isn't doing the laundry by hand, and the washing machine takes the same time to wash 10 onesies that it does to wash 10 onesies and 10 shorts. I give you folding, but washing? Nah.

Same for dishes. The dishwasher takes the same amount of time regardless of how full it is.

It will be quite some time before the baby starts tossing toys around. At that point the older child can pick up his own damn toys.

Meal prep, eh, not all nannies do baby food from scratch, and opening a tub of baby food is hardly work.

She's doing more work, for sure. Absolutely. But not double. Because each child isn't getting one of her, each child is getting half of her. Most of her work isn't about anything you said - not laundry, not meal prep, not dishwashing - it's about face time with each child.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2016 06:55     Subject: Salary question for newe baby

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a nanny employer, I agree that $1/hour is not enough. That equates to doubling her work load for a measly 40 bucks a week.

I think at least $2 per hour is more appropriate, and would say the typical increase is $2-$5 per hour.

I agree with you on the raise, but just a minor quibble: her workload is not doubling. She isn't doing twice as much. She just gives less to each kid per kid - same as a mother would do when a second child comes on board.



Her workload is doubling. She is doing twice as much. She now will do double the laundry, double the dishes, double the toy pickup, double the meal prep when baby starts to eat, etc. How do you not see that she is doing double the work? Not to mention that an infant and toddler have different needs and different schedules. It can be a struggle to manage both depending on parental philosophies.


+1,000,000