Anonymous
Post 05/15/2016 12:14     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

The OP already stated the sibling is watched by the nanny on a regular basis. If the nanny's two child rate is $20/hr, then she should get $20/hr for watching two children (which she already regularly watches). This is not like subbing a neighbor kid! It's her regular two child rate for two children she regularly watches! It's seriously nervey to demand extra money because the configuration of children is new.

It would be nice to take over the nanny's wage from the vacationing family. However, that's between you and your coemployer.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2016 12:02     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why isn't the other (vacationing) family still paying their share of nanny's wages?

If nanny is not paid by the absent family, then she is definitely sending you a message by insisting on full pay for a full (2 kid) workload.

It sounds like you, nanny, and other family need a (better) work agreement that offers guaranteed pay. Or you and other family may get to find a new nanny soon.


The OP said the nanny is still getting her full pay, implying the other family is paying. OP is expecting to be able to throw her second kid in for free, under the pretense that nanny is still getting her wages from the vacationing family. She is ignoring the fact that one of the perks of a nanny share and guaranteed hours is that she will still get paid by a vacationing family while not having the second child there. She is also ignoring that her second child isn't included in the contract and that the share family's vacation wages aren't intended to cover her extra child. The nanny is obviously making a point that she expects to be accommodated for a new child, and rightfully so.

+1 She is making a point to you by asking for $30/hr (which is a bit ridiculous to me). How do you normally treat her?
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2016 07:50     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

OP, you are paying for your ONE child to be in the share. The other family is paying for their ONE child to be in the share. They are not paying for your child. They are paying for theirs, whether she actually attends or not. Therefore, your second child is NOT being paid for. So yes, you need to pay for your second child, at the same rate you would expect a third party who wanted to drop in to pay.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2016 07:45     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Anonymous wrote:Why isn't the other (vacationing) family still paying their share of nanny's wages?

If nanny is not paid by the absent family, then she is definitely sending you a message by insisting on full pay for a full (2 kid) workload.

It sounds like you, nanny, and other family need a (better) work agreement that offers guaranteed pay. Or you and other family may get to find a new nanny soon.


The OP said the nanny is still getting her full pay, implying the other family is paying. OP is expecting to be able to throw her second kid in for free, under the pretense that nanny is still getting her wages from the vacationing family. She is ignoring the fact that one of the perks of a nanny share and guaranteed hours is that she will still get paid by a vacationing family while not having the second child there. She is also ignoring that her second child isn't included in the contract and that the share family's vacation wages aren't intended to cover her extra child. The nanny is obviously making a point that she expects to be accommodated for a new child, and rightfully so.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2016 06:37     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Why isn't the other (vacationing) family still paying their share of nanny's wages?

If nanny is not paid by the absent family, then she is definitely sending you a message by insisting on full pay for a full (2 kid) workload.

It sounds like you, nanny, and other family need a (better) work agreement that offers guaranteed pay. Or you and other family may get to find a new nanny soon.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2016 11:25     Subject: Re:Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Don't substitute children without adequate pay.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2016 08:25     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Anonymous wrote:Siblings tend to fight more than non-siblings, and a 4 year old probably isn't going to follow the nap schedule the 2 year old was on, so no break for nanny. I'm not saying do not do it, but if it isn't in the contract it is kind of nanny's choice under what circumstances.

Exactly. I would not go for being "told" how to accommodate your upheaval, but I might agree to your wishes if you offer to compensate me appropriately.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2016 08:09     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Siblings tend to fight more than non-siblings, and a 4 year old probably isn't going to follow the nap schedule the 2 year old was on, so no break for nanny. I'm not saying do not do it, but if it isn't in the contract it is kind of nanny's choice under what circumstances.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2016 07:12     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Anonymous wrote:Part of the benefit of guaranteed hours is guaranteed pay. Nanny is available for the other share child, but share child is going out of torn so nanny still gets paid. It's kinda shitty of you to just slide an extra kid in just because she's already getting paid.


+1 The breaks and vacations are "perks" for a share nanny.

I also agree with PP who said she is trying to make a point to you.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2016 01:40     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

*town
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2016 01:40     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Part of the benefit of guaranteed hours is guaranteed pay. Nanny is available for the other share child, but share child is going out of torn so nanny still gets paid. It's kinda shitty of you to just slide an extra kid in just because she's already getting paid.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2016 23:17     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

I'm not sure I understand what's going on here. Do you have one kid, and share partner has one kid and share partner is going out of town so nanny would only have one kid? And still be paid by the share partner, so earning full pay for one kid during that time? If that's correct, then nanny is fine asking for full share rate. She could flat out say no and earn $20 for one kid.

If it's your kid that's going out of town, but you want to replace your own out of town kid with your other kid who isn't going out of town, then she seems greedy to ask for full share rate. Maybe an extra $50 at the end of the week if you're feeling generous, but not the full share rate.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2016 22:33     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Have you addressed this in the contract? Obviously not. What do you pay her on the other occasions that she has watched you other child? That is what you should pay her. She has guaranteed hours with the other family and that has nothing to do with your older child.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2016 21:07     Subject: Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

Anonymous wrote:I would keep her hourly rate the same.

Unless the sibling child has special needs.

Probably a pill child.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2016 21:02     Subject: Re:Nanny pay when one kid in the nannyshare is out and a sibling takes his place

+1. Nanny should be paid the same. A four year old is less work than a 2 year old. In change in how the $20/ hour rate is paid should be between the families as one family is now getting care for two children, and the other family is not getting care for their child at all.