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Anonymous wrote:If you pay legally, like I do, and offer some paid time off, then you don't have to worry about her expecting more. You have a legal, clearly spelled out contract, no one is worried about tax fraud exposure, and you can negotiate all of the possible combinations of benefits and requirements.

Once you said you were paying under the table, you lost this MB.

You are lucky that you found a nanny you really liked who was willing to be paid on the books. Most do not.

Forgot to mention, OP who made above comment.

No, I pay well, and I offer benefits. This job pays her, on the books, significantly more than she was making as a daycare worker at $12/hr (also on the books), with a guaranteed schedule. This is a real job, and it was both advertised as such and I attracted people who wanted a job. I wasn't looking to save a buck, and the rate is competitive with or better than almost any other semi-skilled position in this area. She has an ECE degree, btw.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you pay legally, like I do, and offer some paid time off, then you don't have to worry about her expecting more. You have a legal, clearly spelled out contract, no one is worried about tax fraud exposure, and you can negotiate all of the possible combinations of benefits and requirements.

Once you said you were paying under the table, you lost this MB.

You are lucky that you found a nanny you really liked who was willing to be paid on the books. Most do not.

Forgot to mention, OP who made above comment.

No, I pay well, and I offer benefits. This job pays her, on the books, significantly more than she was making as a daycare worker at $12/hr (also on the books), with a guaranteed schedule. This is a real job, and it was both advertised as such and I attracted people who wanted a job. I wasn't looking to save a buck, and the rate is competitive with or better than almost any other semi-skilled position in this area. She has an ECE degree, btw.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you pay legally, like I do, and offer some paid time off, then you don't have to worry about her expecting more. You have a legal, clearly spelled out contract, no one is worried about tax fraud exposure, and you can negotiate all of the possible combinations of benefits and requirements.

Once you said you were paying under the table, you lost this MB.

You are lucky that you found a nanny you really liked who was willing to be paid on the books. Most do not.

Forgot to mention, OP who made above comment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you pay legally, like I do, and offer some paid time off, then you don't have to worry about her expecting more. You have a legal, clearly spelled out contract, no one is worried about tax fraud exposure, and you can negotiate all of the possible combinations of benefits and requirements.

Once you said you were paying under the table, you lost this MB.

You are lucky that you found a nanny you really liked who was willing to be paid on the books. Most do not.

Anonymous wrote:If you pay legally, like I do, and offer some paid time off, then you don't have to worry about her expecting more. You have a legal, clearly spelled out contract, no one is worried about tax fraud exposure, and you can negotiate all of the possible combinations of benefits and requirements.

Once you said you were paying under the table, you lost this MB.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. While surely I wouldn't win Employer of the Year, I don't see how I am being so evil as some of you are implying. This particular nanny did not have any benefits expectations. Her past employment was as an occasional babysitter, for which she never received benefits, and she brought that mentality (no benefits) to this job. As I mentioned before, she was and is well aware that nannies can get benefits. I think she did not ask for benefits because she knew it was a leap of faith for me to hire her given her lack of experience. I know she is grateful to be gainfully employed full-time making $3K vs. $300 a month and that we are willing to pay her off the books, which allows her to continue collecting certain benefits. And before anyone criticizes me for letting her collect benefits, paying off the books is just another form of fraud on the government and the vast majority of nannies are paid off the books. She knows she will get a glowing reference from me and that she can now interview for full-time nanny positions, which she could not do before. In fact, another mom tried to hire her out from under me! I don't know what benefits she offered, but the nanny preferred to stay with our family so we can't be all that bad...

Anyway, I do plan to pay her for full hours when I don't need her on short notice or if she needs to take some personal time. She ends up taking quite a bit of personal time not for her own health but for family medical issues and this will add up. I also will pay her a year-end bonus and increase her salary after a year. I know this is not as much benefits as other nannies get, but I would rather not give her full benefits unless she asks for it. I have read story after story of nannies who start seeing their employers as Mr & Mrs Moneybags because of some initial generosity and I don't want to fall into the same situation.

I didn't think your post was a troll and I get it. I would have the same guilt. My head says let it be.
You have to consider this is an anonymous forum. As much as you'd like to sample the "average MB" out there, the people logging in at this hour might more likely be nannies, many could be unemployed or looking for a better job. Working moms are too busy working to be on this forum (unless they have a specific question they came here to look for or whatever possible reasonable reason).

Anonymous wrote:OP here. While surely I wouldn't win Employer of the Year, I don't see how I am being so evil as some of you are implying. This particular nanny did not have any benefits expectations. Her past employment was as an occasional babysitter, for which she never received benefits, and she brought that mentality (no benefits) to this job. As I mentioned before, she was and is well aware that nannies can get benefits. I think she did not ask for benefits because she knew it was a leap of faith for me to hire her given her lack of experience. I know she is grateful to be gainfully employed full-time making $3K vs. $300 a month and that we are willing to pay her off the books, which allows her to continue collecting certain benefits. And before anyone criticizes me for letting her collect benefits, paying off the books is just another form of fraud on the government and the vast majority of nannies are paid off the books. She knows she will get a glowing reference from me and that she can now interview for full-time nanny positions, which she could not do before. In fact, another mom tried to hire her out from under me! I don't know what benefits she offered, but the nanny preferred to stay with our family so we can't be all that bad...

Anyway, I do plan to pay her for full hours when I don't need her on short notice or if she needs to take some personal time. She ends up taking quite a bit of personal time not for her own health but for family medical issues and this will add up. I also will pay her a year-end bonus and increase her salary after a year. I know this is not as much benefits as other nannies get, but I would rather not give her full benefits unless she asks for it. I have read story after story of nannies who start seeing their employers as Mr & Mrs Moneybags because of some initial generosity and I don't want to fall into the same situation.

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP, for helping your babysitter commit tax fraud and steal benefits she doesn't deserve.

I hope you are a troll. If not, I hope you are prosecuted and fined for your crimes.

Anonymous wrote:I rarely do this, but...

Troll.

Anonymous wrote:I rarely do this, but...

Troll.

Anonymous wrote:Legally you are not required to pay benefits for the nanny. it is you descertions .