Anonymous wrote:Ha, my previous nanny would have included "staring at clothes go round and round" as active work time.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

That's a cleaning lady, not a nanny.

No it isn't. I actually meant to make the point that six hours a week probably isn't enough time to do that much. If you want someone to do all of the family's laundry, for example, that is two loads for each adult, one for each kid, a load of sheets and a load of towels. That's 8 loads of laundry. At 25 minutes a load, that's over three hours. If you want her to clean and sweep the kitchen and spot clean the bathrooms on preschool days that's probably an hour each day. So, you can't also ask her to do the grocery shopping or vacuuming, and you aren't going to get out of hiring someone to deep clean or doing it yourself.

You can wash/dry/fold/put away a load of laundry in 25 minutes. Really now?

Yes. I have machines that do most of the work. It isn't like I am beating it against a rock.

Do you have turbo powered machines? Wash, dry, fold and put away a load in 25 minutes?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

That's a cleaning lady, not a nanny.

No it isn't. I actually meant to make the point that six hours a week probably isn't enough time to do that much. If you want someone to do all of the family's laundry, for example, that is two loads for each adult, one for each kid, a load of sheets and a load of towels. That's 8 loads of laundry. At 25 minutes a load, that's over three hours. If you want her to clean and sweep the kitchen and spot clean the bathrooms on preschool days that's probably an hour each day. So, you can't also ask her to do the grocery shopping or vacuuming, and you aren't going to get out of hiring someone to deep clean or doing it yourself.

You can wash/dry/fold/put away a load of laundry in 25 minutes. Really now?

Yes. I have machines that do most of the work. It isn't like I am beating it against a rock.

Anonymous wrote:We are looking to make the switch to having a full-time nanny caring for our 2 kids. Older is K, younger is 2. If we hire someone for 40-50 hours a week, and BOTH kids are out of the house at the same time for some amount of hours during the week (6-9 total depending on 2 yo preschool class times, and probably 2-3 hour every weekday once he turns 3), is it reasonable to ask the nanny to do housekeeping tasks during that time? I'm imagining whole family laundry, basic cleaning/vacuuming, dishes, etc.?

From what I've read, I know it's not general practice to have the nanny be doing cleaning and such when she is mainly focused on caring for the kids, but I'm thinking if she has time with no kids, then would it be OK? Both spouses' work schedules are such that we need someone to do the AM dropoff at school/preschool, so I don't think we're in a situation to look for someone who could just work when the kids are done after school. We'd also like to have her available for full-day backup care when school is closed, etc. -- and I would understand if the 'house' things didn't get handled as much on those kind of days.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

I did most of this, with the exception of the bathrooms and mopping, in the course of a regular day (twin charges and a family with a 6 month old and 3 yo, for those who need to know). Many nannies-though there are a bunch on here who will disagree-consider these duties normal as they relate to child care.

I would suggest you find a nanny who is ok with these types of "housekeeping" duties and then hire a cleaning service 2 times a month for bathrooms, mopping, deep cleaning. I'd venture you would save money in the long run and have a better pool of nanny candidates as well.

You did near full housekeeping on top of 4 kids? Please tell us your secret.

What was your hourly pay for all that?

Each family was 2 kids, I was paid in the $16-18 range. I am college educated and have 8+ years of experience.

That rate is pathetic for the DC area.

I'm not entirely sure why my personal rate of compensation, which has nothing to do with you, offends you to the point of insult, but I assure you I was quite satisfied with my paycheck at the end of the week. Pathetic is far from it.

Did your parents fund your college education? Can't quite imagine paying off a college loan on $16/hr. Live-in positions that provided acceptable room and board?

Neither, but keep digging. I can see my personal finances are of great interest to you. Not really sure how they are relevant to this thread though...

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

That's a cleaning lady, not a nanny.

No it isn't. I actually meant to make the point that six hours a week probably isn't enough time to do that much. If you want someone to do all of the family's laundry, for example, that is two loads for each adult, one for each kid, a load of sheets and a load of towels. That's 8 loads of laundry. At 25 minutes a load, that's over three hours. If you want her to clean and sweep the kitchen and spot clean the bathrooms on preschool days that's probably an hour each day. So, you can't also ask her to do the grocery shopping or vacuuming, and you aren't going to get out of hiring someone to deep clean or doing it yourself.

You can wash/dry/fold/put away a load of laundry in 25 minutes. Really now?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

I did most of this, with the exception of the bathrooms and mopping, in the course of a regular day (twin charges and a family with a 6 month old and 3 yo, for those who need to know). Many nannies-though there are a bunch on here who will disagree-consider these duties normal as they relate to child care.

I would suggest you find a nanny who is ok with these types of "housekeeping" duties and then hire a cleaning service 2 times a month for bathrooms, mopping, deep cleaning. I'd venture you would save money in the long run and have a better pool of nanny candidates as well.

You did near full housekeeping on top of 4 kids? Please tell us your secret.

What was your hourly pay for all that?

Each family was 2 kids, I was paid in the $16-18 range. I am college educated and have 8+ years of experience.

That rate is pathetic for the DC area.

I'm not entirely sure why my personal rate of compensation, which has nothing to do with you, offends you to the point of insult, but I assure you I was quite satisfied with my paycheck at the end of the week. Pathetic is far from it.

Did your parents fund your college education? Can't quite imagine paying off a college loan on $16/hr. Live-in positions that provided acceptable room and board?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

I did most of this, with the exception of the bathrooms and mopping, in the course of a regular day (twin charges and a family with a 6 month old and 3 yo, for those who need to know). Many nannies-though there are a bunch on here who will disagree-consider these duties normal as they relate to child care.

I would suggest you find a nanny who is ok with these types of "housekeeping" duties and then hire a cleaning service 2 times a month for bathrooms, mopping, deep cleaning. I'd venture you would save money in the long run and have a better pool of nanny candidates as well.

You did near full housekeeping on top of 4 kids? Please tell us your secret.

What was your hourly pay for all that?

Each family was 2 kids, I was paid in the $16-18 range. I am college educated and have 8+ years of experience.

That rate is pathetic for the DC area.

I'm not entirely sure why my personal rate of compensation, which has nothing to do with you, offends you to the point of insult, but I assure you I was quite satisfied with my paycheck at the end of the week. Pathetic is far from it.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

I did most of this, with the exception of the bathrooms and mopping, in the course of a regular day (twin charges and a family with a 6 month old and 3 yo, for those who need to know). Many nannies-though there are a bunch on here who will disagree-consider these duties normal as they relate to child care.

I would suggest you find a nanny who is ok with these types of "housekeeping" duties and then hire a cleaning service 2 times a month for bathrooms, mopping, deep cleaning. I'd venture you would save money in the long run and have a better pool of nanny candidates as well.

You did near full housekeeping on top of 4 kids? Please tell us your secret.

What was your hourly pay for all that?

Each family was 2 kids, I was paid in the $16-18 range. I am college educated and have 8+ years of experience.

That rate is pathetic for the DC area.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with pp's. Seems reasonable to ask. I would actually go so far as to spend some time actually breaking it down and figuring out how much time it takes to do the things you are asking of her. For example if lo has preschool 15 minutes away and it's three hours long, she has 2.5 hours:
Clean kitchen; unload dishwasher, do dishes, wipe down counters, sweep, mop (45 min)
Laundry; wash, dry, fold, put away- 25 minutes/load x two loads (50 min)
Wipe down bathroom sinks and mirrors, change handtowels, wipe any visible spots - 10 min x 2 bathrooms (20 minutes)
Vacuum kitchen and playroom (15 min)
Make lunch (10 min)

If you are expecting her to grocery shop, I would expect shopping, cleaning out fridge, and putting new food away to take at least 2 hours. So she may be able to do that and clean the kitchen and that's it.

I did most of this, with the exception of the bathrooms and mopping, in the course of a regular day (twin charges and a family with a 6 month old and 3 yo, for those who need to know). Many nannies-though there are a bunch on here who will disagree-consider these duties normal as they relate to child care.

I would suggest you find a nanny who is ok with these types of "housekeeping" duties and then hire a cleaning service 2 times a month for bathrooms, mopping, deep cleaning. I'd venture you would save money in the long run and have a better pool of nanny candidates as well.

You did near full housekeeping on top of 4 kids? Please tell us your secret.

What was your hourly pay for all that?

Each family was 2 kids, I was paid in the $16-18 range. I am college educated and have 8+ years of experience.