Anonymous
02/23/2016 13:27
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really PP? To be good employers it is all about the cash flowing, right?
Let's reverse your question and see if the answer becomes clear. To be a good nanny, it's all about showing up to do your job?
Payment is a foundational element of the arrangement. Your single most important responsibility to your employee. Yes not doing it is a freakin huge deal.
So nanny should show up at 6:00 for a shift that starts at 8:00 then, right?
Anonymous
02/23/2016 13:03
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Really PP? To be good employers it is all about the cash flowing, right?
Let's reverse your question and see if the answer becomes clear. To be a good nanny, it's all about showing up to do your job?
Payment is a foundational element of the arrangement. Your single most important responsibility to your employee. Yes not doing it is a freakin huge deal.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 12:35
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Really PP? To be good employers it is all about the cash flowing, right?
Anonymous
02/23/2016 12:27
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
WRONG! Not sure where OP is located, but at least in MD, it IS labor law that paydates occur at regular intervals, and if the normal pay date falls on a nonworking day, payment should occur on the preceding work day.
https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wagepay/wppaidontime.shtml#paid
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I'm the OP who said I won't advance pay for convenience. Payday falls every Friday at my house. The check will be there on the counter. Nanny is welcome to come get it.
You are misreading the law (badly) if you think it means that paybacks must be issued in advance of an employee's vacation. Snort.
What the f*ck is wrong with you? If you showed me such derision about paying me while I was on vacation, as though doing so is some kind of favor to me, we'd be done. No one is saying to advance pay. They're saying you need to find a way to ensure that your nanny received her pay on her pay day. In the modern age that's done by direct deposit. If you're too cheap to do it that way, it's on you to find another way. If you act like you don't give a shit if your nanny gets the money you owe her, you won't keep her very long.
No, I don't need to make sure my nanny RECEIVES her pay on pay day, only that it is AVAILABLE to her. If nanny wants me to put it in the mail on pay day, no problem. I am not obligated to set up direct deposit to accomodate vacation preferences. You are confusing a convenience with a right.
Working in a large company, my employer did not pre-pay us based on our vacation schedules or hand us post-dated checks. Paper checks were delivered on pay date. If you weren't in the office, you could pick it up in the finance office over the next two weeks. If not picked up, then it was mailed. These pay checks were never "late" - the funds were available but I had responsibility for being available to pick up the check.
You're on a massive power trip lady. How does it hurt you in any way to give your nanny a post dated check? You just want to be able to throw your weight around and Lord over someone. Hopefully the high from that power trip gets you through your continuous nanny searches!
No power trip here. I am simply trying to combat the misinformation some PPs are intent upon spreading, suggesting that employers have some legal or moral obligation to ensure the cash is in the nanny's hand regardless of where nanny may be at the time. Not so. Employers have an obligation to have payment available to employees, at the usual site of payment, on pay day. Employers do not have the obligation to plan payment around nanny's vacation.
That said, I've done pretty much all of the things mentioned above. I've pre-paid, I've done direct deposit on what would be regular pay day, and I've written a check that has remained on the kitchen counter until nanny picked it up. Bottom line though is that the employer has the obligation to make paycheck available but not to ensure the nanny has it in hand while in Fiji or wherever.
If you hope a nanny will go above and beyond, you need to do the same. Simple.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 11:38
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
WRONG! Not sure where OP is located, but at least in MD, it IS labor law that paydates occur at regular intervals, and if the normal pay date falls on a nonworking day, payment should occur on the preceding work day.
https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wagepay/wppaidontime.shtml#paid
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I'm the OP who said I won't advance pay for convenience. Payday falls every Friday at my house. The check will be there on the counter. Nanny is welcome to come get it.
You are misreading the law (badly) if you think it means that paybacks must be issued in advance of an employee's vacation. Snort.
What the f*ck is wrong with you? If you showed me such derision about paying me while I was on vacation, as though doing so is some kind of favor to me, we'd be done. No one is saying to advance pay. They're saying you need to find a way to ensure that your nanny received her pay on her pay day. In the modern age that's done by direct deposit. If you're too cheap to do it that way, it's on you to find another way. If you act like you don't give a shit if your nanny gets the money you owe her, you won't keep her very long.
No, I don't need to make sure my nanny RECEIVES her pay on pay day, only that it is AVAILABLE to her. If nanny wants me to put it in the mail on pay day, no problem. I am not obligated to set up direct deposit to accomodate vacation preferences. You are confusing a convenience with a right.
Working in a large company, my employer did not pre-pay us based on our vacation schedules or hand us post-dated checks. Paper checks were delivered on pay date. If you weren't in the office, you could pick it up in the finance office over the next two weeks. If not picked up, then it was mailed. These pay checks were never "late" - the funds were available but I had responsibility for being available to pick up the check.
You're on a massive power trip lady. How does it hurt you in any way to give your nanny a post dated check? You just want to be able to throw your weight around and Lord over someone. Hopefully the high from that power trip gets you through your continuous nanny searches!
No power trip here. I am simply trying to combat the misinformation some PPs are intent upon spreading, suggesting that employers have some legal or moral obligation to ensure the cash is in the nanny's hand regardless of where nanny may be at the time. Not so. Employers have an obligation to have payment available to employees, at the usual site of payment, on pay day. Employers do not have the obligation to plan payment around nanny's vacation.
That said, I've done pretty much all of the things mentioned above. I've pre-paid, I've done direct deposit on what would be regular pay day, and I've written a check that has remained on the kitchen counter until nanny picked it up. Bottom line though is that the employer has the obligation to make paycheck available but not to ensure the nanny has it in hand while in Fiji or wherever.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 11:10
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
WRONG! Not sure where OP is located, but at least in MD, it IS labor law that paydates occur at regular intervals, and if the normal pay date falls on a nonworking day, payment should occur on the preceding work day.
https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wagepay/wppaidontime.shtml#paid
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I'm the OP who said I won't advance pay for convenience. Payday falls every Friday at my house. The check will be there on the counter. Nanny is welcome to come get it.
You are misreading the law (badly) if you think it means that paybacks must be issued in advance of an employee's vacation. Snort.
What the f*ck is wrong with you? If you showed me such derision about paying me while I was on vacation, as though doing so is some kind of favor to me, we'd be done. No one is saying to advance pay. They're saying you need to find a way to ensure that your nanny received her pay on her pay day. In the modern age that's done by direct deposit. If you're too cheap to do it that way, it's on you to find another way. If you act like you don't give a shit if your nanny gets the money you owe her, you won't keep her very long.
No, I don't need to make sure my nanny RECEIVES her pay on pay day, only that it is AVAILABLE to her. If nanny wants me to put it in the mail on pay day, no problem. I am not obligated to set up direct deposit to accomodate vacation preferences. You are confusing a convenience with a right.
Working in a large company, my employer did not pre-pay us based on our vacation schedules or hand us post-dated checks. Paper checks were delivered on pay date. If you weren't in the office, you could pick it up in the finance office over the next two weeks. If not picked up, then it was mailed. These pay checks were never "late" - the funds were available but I had responsibility for being available to pick up the check.
You're on a massive power trip lady. How does it hurt you in any way to give your nanny a post dated check? You just want to be able to throw your weight around and Lord over someone. Hopefully the high from that power trip gets you through your continuous nanny searches!
Anonymous
02/23/2016 10:59
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
WRONG! Not sure where OP is located, but at least in MD, it IS labor law that paydates occur at regular intervals, and if the normal pay date falls on a nonworking day, payment should occur on the preceding work day.
https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wagepay/wppaidontime.shtml#paid
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I'm the OP who said I won't advance pay for convenience. Payday falls every Friday at my house. The check will be there on the counter. Nanny is welcome to come get it.
You are misreading the law (badly) if you think it means that paybacks must be issued in advance of an employee's vacation. Snort.
What the f*ck is wrong with you? If you showed me such derision about paying me while I was on vacation, as though doing so is some kind of favor to me, we'd be done. No one is saying to advance pay. They're saying you need to find a way to ensure that your nanny received her pay on her pay day. In the modern age that's done by direct deposit. If you're too cheap to do it that way, it's on you to find another way. If you act like you don't give a shit if your nanny gets the money you owe her, you won't keep her very long.
No, I don't need to make sure my nanny RECEIVES her pay on pay day, only that it is AVAILABLE to her. If nanny wants me to put it in the mail on pay day, no problem. I am not obligated to set up direct deposit to accomodate vacation preferences. You are confusing a convenience with a right.
Working in a large company, my employer did not pre-pay us based on our vacation schedules or hand us post-dated checks. Paper checks were delivered on pay date. If you weren't in the office, you could pick it up in the finance office over the next two weeks. If not picked up, then it was mailed. These pay checks were never "late" - the funds were available but I had responsibility for being available to pick up the check.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 09:27
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
WRONG! Not sure where OP is located, but at least in MD, it IS labor law that paydates occur at regular intervals, and if the normal pay date falls on a nonworking day, payment should occur on the preceding work day.
https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wagepay/wppaidontime.shtml#paid
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I'm the OP who said I won't advance pay for convenience. Payday falls every Friday at my house. The check will be there on the counter. Nanny is welcome to come get it.
You are misreading the law (badly) if you think it means that paybacks must be issued in advance of an employee's vacation. Snort.
What the f*ck is wrong with you? If you showed me such derision about paying me while I was on vacation, as though doing so is some kind of favor to me, we'd be done. No one is saying to advance pay. They're saying you need to find a way to ensure that your nanny received her pay on her pay day. In the modern age that's done by direct deposit. If you're too cheap to do it that way, it's on you to find another way. If you act like you don't give a shit if your nanny gets the money you owe her, you won't keep her very long.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 09:08
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right so it has to be paid in the middle of the vacation and the employer should probably mail it on that day. GL with the mail system nannies.
There's no reason that the employer shouldn't be able to put the check into a waiting envelope on payday, postmark it the same day and send it off. It's not hard.
Yes that's what I said. Mail it on payday.
I have prepaid envelopes from my bank. It would be deposited on Tuesday, while I was still gone, which is fine with me.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 08:19
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right so it has to be paid in the middle of the vacation and the employer should probably mail it on that day. GL with the mail system nannies.
There's no reason that the employer shouldn't be able to put the check into a waiting envelope on payday, postmark it the same day and send it off. It's not hard.
Yes that's what I said. Mail it on payday.
Anonymous
02/23/2016 01:49
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Right so it has to be paid in the middle of the vacation and the employer should probably mail it on that day. GL with the mail system nannies.
There's no reason that the employer shouldn't be able to put the check into a waiting envelope on payday, postmark it the same day and send it off. It's not hard.
Anonymous
02/22/2016 22:13
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Nanny taking a 2 week vacation in the beginning of her employment is a huge red flag. I would pay her one week of vacations the friday after she gets back, and the second week the Friday after that. Just tell her you can't afford to give her 2 weeks up front and still pay her replacement.
Anonymous
02/22/2016 22:06
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Right so it has to be paid in the middle of the vacation and the employer should probably mail it on that day. GL with the mail system nannies.
Anonymous
02/22/2016 22:00
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
WRONG! Not sure where OP is located, but at least in MD, it IS labor law that paydates occur at regular intervals, and if the normal pay date falls on a nonworking day, payment should occur on the preceding work day.
https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wagepay/wppaidontime.shtml#paid
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I'm the OP who said I won't advance pay for convenience. Payday falls every Friday at my house. The check will be there on the counter. Nanny is welcome to come get it.
You are misreading the law (badly) if you think it means that paybacks must be issued in advance of an employee's vacation. Snort.
Anonymous
02/22/2016 21:22
Subject: how to handle vacation pay?
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Back in ancient times when people's paychecks were mailed or distributed at work, you got it when you were there to get it. Your employer wrote the check on the same day each pay period, and it was on you to pick it up.
Writing predated checks is a major courtesy, not some requirement of labor law.
Anyone not there had the option of having it mailed...