Anonymous
Post 12/31/2015 13:24     Subject: Trial day pay
I wouldn't want to work for a family that wanted to play semantics about whether a trial day was work, or whether they should pay for it. If you want to book my time, beyond a single 1 hour interview, you will pay for it. If not, you can play your silly games with someone else.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2015 12:59     Subject: Trial day pay
Trial days are a good way to see if you and the prospective family will be a good fit. They can see if you do a good job and you can see if they have the type of personality that will not clash with yours. You can also get a taste of their parenting style as well.

Yes, you SHOULD get paid. It is four hours of your time, time you have strictly reserved for them and their child. Time you cannot accept another job or meet a friend for lunch.

I wouldn't do it unless I was compensated for it. Since you are going through an agency, perhaps it is a given that you will be paid. I would double check first.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 22:21     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:Loool this should b work. My agency does not pay you through their interview process but as soon as u are sent off to interview with families, you are expected to get paid...a trial day of 4 hours is work. I wouldn't leave my home if that wasn't paid. Ask to be provided lunch and reimbursed gas money too.


Commuting is *never* paid. And lunch for a 4 hour shift? No way.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 20:46     Subject: Trial day pay
Loool this should b work. My agency does not pay you through their interview process but as soon as u are sent off to interview with families, you are expected to get paid...a trial day of 4 hours is work. I wouldn't leave my home if that wasn't paid. Ask to be provided lunch and reimbursed gas money too.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 14:51     Subject: Re:Trial day pay
MB here. I did a 2 hr trial with my nanny before I hired her. I was there the whole time (and not so subtly watching how they interacted), but I of course paid my nanny for the 2 hrs of her time. I would never think not to.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 13:34     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.


A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?


It's a working interview. These are paid.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 13:22     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


I think you need to move away from comparing my career as a nanny to other jobs and careers. Like I have said before, in my 8 years of working in the early childhood field Ive never done trial days and certainly won't for free. As a nanny YOU are the service provided. Trial days are NOT interviews. You are with the kids and working and unless the 2 year old puts on their reading glasses then whips out an iPad with questions for me, Im working. They have already interviewed me more than once. Trial day is a work day without the contract being signed to cement the deal. Stop looking at trial day WORK as an interview. It is the step AFTER the interviews. If you must compare, compare it to orientation and probationary periods on other jobs which are also paid.


You realize the PP is saying the exact same thing as you?


I have reading comprehension skills yes lol. I was addressing the pp's notion that I should not look at being paid for the time. Time is money to me. An interview (not trial work) should not run on past an hour maybe hour and half. If it does they are strange and its a red flag. Ive wrapped interviews that drug along before and won't be interested in working for people that don't value others time. These kind of people are the ones that will come home late a lot, or think when its your stop time they can chat you up about little larlas day for 45 minutes because they don't think about the nanny having a life and other things to do


I disagree. I usually ask just as many or more questions than parents ask during an interview. I know how to steer the conversation with open-ended questions, but they ask me for yes/no or short phrase answers. Most of my initial interviews go 1-1.5 hours, and I don't get antsy is they run 2-2.5 hours. As long as the time is spent productively, I don't have an issue with it. On the other hand, I'm a live-in nanny, so I'm asking a lot of questions that live-out nannies shouldn't.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:58     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


I think you need to move away from comparing my career as a nanny to other jobs and careers. Like I have said before, in my 8 years of working in the early childhood field Ive never done trial days and certainly won't for free. As a nanny YOU are the service provided. Trial days are NOT interviews. You are with the kids and working and unless the 2 year old puts on their reading glasses then whips out an iPad with questions for me, Im working. They have already interviewed me more than once. Trial day is a work day without the contract being signed to cement the deal. Stop looking at trial day WORK as an interview. It is the step AFTER the interviews. If you must compare, compare it to orientation and probationary periods on other jobs which are also paid.


You realize the PP is saying the exact same thing as you?


I have reading comprehension skills yes lol. I was addressing the pp's notion that I should not look at being paid for the time. Time is money to me. An interview (not trial work) should not run on past an hour maybe hour and half. If it does they are strange and its a red flag. Ive wrapped interviews that drug along before and won't be interested in working for people that don't value others time. These kind of people are the ones that will come home late a lot, or think when its your stop time they can chat you up about little larlas day for 45 minutes because they don't think about the nanny having a life and other things to do
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:52     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


I think you need to move away from comparing my career as a nanny to other jobs and careers. Like I have said before, in my 8 years of working in the early childhood field Ive never done trial days and certainly won't for free. As a nanny YOU are the service provided. Trial days are NOT interviews. You are with the kids and working and unless the 2 year old puts on their reading glasses then whips out an iPad with questions for me, Im working. They have already interviewed me more than once. Trial day is a work day without the contract being signed to cement the deal. Stop looking at trial day WORK as an interview. It is the step AFTER the interviews. If you must compare, compare it to orientation and probationary periods on other jobs which are also paid.


You realize the PP is saying the exact same thing as you?


Let me clarify. I keep seeing people say they should be paid for a trial day because it takes so much time. That leads right to the response that many jobs have prolonged interview periods. That's exactly how this thread, as well as 100 others on this topic, have started. Yes, you should get paid. But, because you are doing the job. I don't pay people because their time is valuable. I pay when their time is providing value to me!
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:45     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


I think you need to move away from comparing my career as a nanny to other jobs and careers. Like I have said before, in my 8 years of working in the early childhood field Ive never done trial days and certainly won't for free. As a nanny YOU are the service provided. Trial days are NOT interviews. You are with the kids and working and unless the 2 year old puts on their reading glasses then whips out an iPad with questions for me, Im working. They have already interviewed me more than once. Trial day is a work day without the contract being signed to cement the deal. Stop looking at trial day WORK as an interview. It is the step AFTER the interviews. If you must compare, compare it to orientation and probationary periods on other jobs which are also paid.


You realize the PP is saying the exact same thing as you?
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:39     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


She is doing her future job as an interview, the parents are there watching how she interacts and works. The nannies actual job is to watch the children while the parents work, so technically a trial day means a nanny isn't doing her real job.


all parents that employ nannies don't have jobs themselves. according to you mothers helpers shouldn't be paid ever. the actual job is to work, whether they are home or not
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:36     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.


A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?


When you take something home from the store do you not pay for it? If you take a ride in a cab but get to the destination and it's closed do you not still owe for the ride? If you hire a tutor and your child still fails the test do you get a refund? Nannies are not interns.


Your examples have nothing to do with interviewing for a job LOL


sweetie the job interview has already been done. trial days provide a service. If the mom and dad want to work from their home office or cook dinner, they have someone in their home so that they can. trial days are like the first step in being orientated.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:32     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


I think you need to move away from comparing my career as a nanny to other jobs and careers. Like I have said before, in my 8 years of working in the early childhood field Ive never done trial days and certainly won't for free. As a nanny YOU are the service provided. Trial days are NOT interviews. You are with the kids and working and unless the 2 year old puts on their reading glasses then whips out an iPad with questions for me, Im working. They have already interviewed me more than once. Trial day is a work day without the contract being signed to cement the deal. Stop looking at trial day WORK as an interview. It is the step AFTER the interviews. If you must compare, compare it to orientation and probationary periods on other jobs which are also paid.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2015 12:16     Subject: Trial day pay
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.


She is doing her future job as an interview, the parents are there watching how she interacts and works. The nannies actual job is to watch the children while the parents work, so technically a trial day means a nanny isn't doing her real job.


There are plenty of nannies who work while parents are doing things other than work. The supposition that nannies only work when the parents do would mean that nannies would be off every day that parents aren't working, and that doesn't always happen.