Anonymous
10/13/2015 02:42
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
The flu shot does temporarily weeken your immune system. Which is why some people do get sick right after. The people most benefited from the flu shot are young children and seniors. The flu shot has a very small impact on healthy adults, and while it probably won't make you sick it does increase susceptibility to viruses for a week or two while your body "fights" off the shot and builds antibodies. These are facts, you may look them up. However as a future pharmacist you should really be aware of both sides, there are always two sides.
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Anonymous
10/13/2015 02:39
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
The two of you cheapen your argument with name calling.
TO the future pharmacist I hope your offline personality is far better than your online one- you'll come into contact with many people who do not share your views as a pharmacist , and you won't last long in your job if you call them all stupid
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Anonymous
10/13/2015 01:43
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Let me preface this by stating that I'm a firm believer in vaccinations.
That being said, some people do have severe and unusual reactions to them. My niece almost died from a (verified by a team of doctors) reaction to the DTaP vaccine. Due to the severity of her reaction, she will never receive another DTaP, so she did not receive the full series. After that experience my brother and sister in law with her team of specialists have had to weigh the risks and benefits of each vaccination for her. At this point, they choose to skip the flu vaccine because it's not worth the risk.
My point is that there are complex situations with vaccinations and not everyone who doesn't vaccinate is uneducated or stupid.
That being said, some people do have severe and unusual reactions to them. My niece almost died from a (verified by a team of doctors) reaction to the DTaP vaccine. Due to the severity of her reaction, she will never receive another DTaP, so she did not receive the full series. After that experience my brother and sister in law with her team of specialists have had to weigh the risks and benefits of each vaccination for her. At this point, they choose to skip the flu vaccine because it's not worth the risk.
My point is that there are complex situations with vaccinations and not everyone who doesn't vaccinate is uneducated or stupid.
Anonymous
10/13/2015 00:54
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are stupid enough (yes stupid) to think that vaccinations somehow weaken the immune system or cause illness, you have no business working with children.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
+ 100. Nanny here ( already posted). I'm so sick of uneducated people saying vaccines are ineffective or lead to illness. They have no business being a nanny of they are unwilling to be vaccinated. I will never work for family that doesn't vaccinate. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Signed - A nanny and future pharmacist.
The flu shot does temporarily weeken your immune system. Which is why some people do get sick right after. The people most benefited from the flu shot are young children and seniors. The flu shot has a very small impact on healthy adults, and while it probably won't make you sick it does increase susceptibility to viruses for a week or two while your body "fights" off the shot and builds antibodies. These are facts, you may look them up. However as a future pharmacist you should really be aware of both sides, there are always two sides.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 23:58
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are stupid enough (yes stupid) to think that vaccinations somehow weaken the immune system or cause illness, you have no business working with children.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
+ 100. Nanny here ( already posted). I'm so sick of uneducated people saying vaccines are ineffective or lead to illness. They have no business being a nanny of they are unwilling to be vaccinated. I will never work for family that doesn't vaccinate. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Signed - A nanny and future pharmacist.
The two of you cheapen your argument with name calling.
TO the future pharmacist I hope your offline personality is far better than your online one- you'll come into contact with many people who do not share your views as a pharmacist , and you won't last long in your job if you call them all stupid.
+1 I was on board until you repeated the word "stupid". *cringe*
Anonymous
10/12/2015 23:56
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Anonymous wrote:What would you do? We are due to add another baby to the family the beginning of December. Nanny who's been with us for a year who we like and would like to keep just told me she doesn't get flu shots. She says it makes her not able to fight other viruses as well and she'll get more sick and the only year she got a flu shot she was sick the next day. I work in health care and know the consequences for newborns who contract influenza. Don't even know what to do at this point. She is a bit of a medical exaggerator in general. Everyone is always "SO sick". My own kids when have a cold she is very dramatic about. I feel like if I force the point she'll actually end up "really sick" all winter. What would you do? She doesn't have any conditions that make her immunocompromises. She is extremely health 50 year old who over shares everything medical with me so I feel comfortable saying this.
Being in childcare means that you have to protect the wellbeing of the child. If she does not want to get a flu shot then suggest the nasal spray. If she doesn't fear getting your child sick then she may need to reconsider her profession. Good luck!
Anonymous
10/12/2015 23:50
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are stupid enough (yes stupid) to think that vaccinations somehow weaken the immune system or cause illness, you have no business working with children.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
+ 100. Nanny here ( already posted). I'm so sick of uneducated people saying vaccines are ineffective or lead to illness. They have no business being a nanny of they are unwilling to be vaccinated. I will never work for family that doesn't vaccinate. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Signed - A nanny and future pharmacist.
The two of you cheapen your argument with name calling.
TO the future pharmacist I hope your offline personality is far better than your online one- you'll come into contact with many people who do not share your views as a pharmacist , and you won't last long in your job if you call them all stupid.
Too bad -- they are all stupid. Anti-vaxers should all be sterilized or live on Amish farms.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 23:08
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are stupid enough (yes stupid) to think that vaccinations somehow weaken the immune system or cause illness, you have no business working with children.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
+ 100. Nanny here ( already posted). I'm so sick of uneducated people saying vaccines are ineffective or lead to illness. They have no business being a nanny of they are unwilling to be vaccinated. I will never work for family that doesn't vaccinate. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Signed - A nanny and future pharmacist.
The two of you cheapen your argument with name calling.
TO the future pharmacist I hope your offline personality is far better than your online one- you'll come into contact with many people who do not share your views as a pharmacist , and you won't last long in your job if you call them all stupid.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 22:05
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Anonymous wrote:If you are stupid enough (yes stupid) to think that vaccinations somehow weaken the immune system or cause illness, you have no business working with children.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
+ 100. Nanny here ( already posted). I'm so sick of uneducated people saying vaccines are ineffective or lead to illness. They have no business being a nanny of they are unwilling to be vaccinated. I will never work for family that doesn't vaccinate. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Signed - A nanny and future pharmacist.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 22:04
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
So fire her. Vax or no flu vax it's clear you don't respect her.
You can spend the rest of your pregnancy and maternity leave finding a nanny for your baby and other kids.
I'm not sure what your reasoning for posting this.
Are you a troll looking to to start a debate about the importance of vaccines?
Are you a troll hoping to scare nannies into getting the flu vax so their employers don't fire them?
You can spend the rest of your pregnancy and maternity leave finding a nanny for your baby and other kids.
I'm not sure what your reasoning for posting this.
Are you a troll looking to to start a debate about the importance of vaccines?
Are you a troll hoping to scare nannies into getting the flu vax so their employers don't fire them?
Anonymous
10/12/2015 21:35
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
If you are stupid enough (yes stupid) to think that vaccinations somehow weaken the immune system or cause illness, you have no business working with children.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
This argument is just absurd.
If you coincidentally get sick the year, or the week, after you get the flu shot, that is all it is, COINCIDENCE. Do some research, stop using your own anecdotal references as some sort of actual fact.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 21:15
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Pp again- I'm also never sick. My employers get flu shots and they are constantly sick.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 21:15
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
I get shots when I go to Africa or Asia but no I'm not getting a flu shot for you. My body my choice.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 20:54
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
I have been a nanny for 10 years, I have been out sick maybe 3 times. The Flu shot is ineffective, I did get Tdap because I work with the 0-4 group.
Anonymous
10/12/2015 20:30
Subject: Nanny refusing flu shot
Or maybe it is true:
Also from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/news/updated-vaccine-effectiveness-2014-15.htm):
When VE against all influenza viruses was combined, the overall VE estimate was 19% (95% CI: 7%– 29%). In practical terms, this means the flu vaccine reduced a person’s risk of having to seek medical care at a doctor’s office for flu illness by 19%.
Also from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/news/updated-vaccine-effectiveness-2014-15.htm):
When VE against all influenza viruses was combined, the overall VE estimate was 19% (95% CI: 7%– 29%). In practical terms, this means the flu vaccine reduced a person’s risk of having to seek medical care at a doctor’s office for flu illness by 19%.