Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 16:04     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is all very simple. I pay my nanny a flat rate of 550/wk, 52 weeks a year, which is a guaranteed 50 hrs a week at $10/hr. I have school aged children. During the school year she works a split schedule around 17hrs a week max and snow days and teacher work days. During the summer, depending on their camp schedule she works 20-50 hrs a week (maybe 3 weeks are at 50). I'm not sure what she averages over the year, but if I could take a stab at it I'd say 30hrs.

She knows what she is getting and I know what I'm paying. She also has picked up babysitting jobs during the school year when she feels like it, essentially double dipping.


This is an undocumented off the books nanny.


No, she is a US citizen with a clean Virginia drivers license, big requirement since she drives my children to camp all over the place in summer. She is 55yrs old and FICA is top of her mind, I pay full taxes, as does she.

You might want to check the batteries on your crystal ball.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 16:01     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is all very simple. I pay my nanny a flat rate of 550/wk, 52 weeks a year, which is a guaranteed 50 hrs a week at $10/hr. I have school aged children. During the school year she works a split schedule around 17hrs a week max and snow days and teacher work days. During the summer, depending on their camp schedule she works 20-50 hrs a week (maybe 3 weeks are at 50). I'm not sure what she averages over the year, but if I could take a stab at it I'd say 30hrs.

She knows what she is getting and I know what I'm paying. She also has picked up babysitting jobs during the school year when she feels like it, essentially double dipping.


? So why not pay her guaranteed hours and do the whole thing legally? Honestly, I do not understand the draw to a flat salary when guaranteed hours has the same result and is legal.


The hours are guaranteed. 50 guarantees at $10/hr.

What are you missing?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 15:58     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:This is all very simple. I pay my nanny a flat rate of 550/wk, 52 weeks a year, which is a guaranteed 50 hrs a week at $10/hr. I have school aged children. During the school year she works a split schedule around 17hrs a week max and snow days and teacher work days. During the summer, depending on their camp schedule she works 20-50 hrs a week (maybe 3 weeks are at 50). I'm not sure what she averages over the year, but if I could take a stab at it I'd say 30hrs.

She knows what she is getting and I know what I'm paying. She also has picked up babysitting jobs during the school year when she feels like it, essentially double dipping.


This is an undocumented off the books nanny.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 15:57     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:This is all very simple. I pay my nanny a flat rate of 550/wk, 52 weeks a year, which is a guaranteed 50 hrs a week at $10/hr. I have school aged children. During the school year she works a split schedule around 17hrs a week max and snow days and teacher work days. During the summer, depending on their camp schedule she works 20-50 hrs a week (maybe 3 weeks are at 50). I'm not sure what she averages over the year, but if I could take a stab at it I'd say 30hrs.

She knows what she is getting and I know what I'm paying. She also has picked up babysitting jobs during the school year when she feels like it, essentially double dipping.


? So why not pay her guaranteed hours and do the whole thing legally? Honestly, I do not understand the draw to a flat salary when guaranteed hours has the same result and is legal.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 15:42     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
This is all very simple. I pay my nanny a flat rate of 550/wk, 52 weeks a year, which is a guaranteed 50 hrs a week at $10/hr. I have school aged children. During the school year she works a split schedule around 17hrs a week max and snow days and teacher work days. During the summer, depending on their camp schedule she works 20-50 hrs a week (maybe 3 weeks are at 50). I'm not sure what she averages over the year, but if I could take a stab at it I'd say 30hrs.

She knows what she is getting and I know what I'm paying. She also has picked up babysitting jobs during the school year when she feels like it, essentially double dipping.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 09:47     Subject: Re:Flat rate salary or hourly?
I am paid (legally) a flat day rate when I travel with my NF and I hate it. I end up working way more than my hourly rate and feel very taken advantage of. This arrangement benefits my employers and certainly not me. The business manager had to break it down for legal purposes, including overtime, as I am essentially working around the clock and it came out to something like $10.75 an hour when I earn $23 an hour normally.

At my annual review, this will be corrected. My advice to any nanny is to not accept a flat rate and always go for hourly.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2015 02:13     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am salaried, working part time for 2-3 hours a day each weekday and I get a flat $450 a week. It works out fine. Sometimes they don't need me, sometimes I go home early, and every now and then I stay an hour or two late for an event or dinner (maybe once a month, if that.)

I think I am much better off salaried than dicking around with an hour here or "you own me $30 minutes for this day." I don't feel taken advantage of, NF doesn't have to count hours, and I know exactly what I will bring home each week. Add that to my more traditional part time daytime job and I comfortable know my weekly income down to the penny.



How are you paid legally with a flat salary like this? Honest question. Your gross is always 450 -- I just don't see how your employers can work that out legally every week.

Honestly - please explain.


The same way that employers who guarantee x number of hours at y rate pay the same every week.


So they divide your gross by a set amount of hours whether you worked or not? So it is the same as guaranteed hours except you don't get paid if you stay over the set hours?
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 21:50     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is NOT illegal!!! Note to all - it's ONLY illegal if your hourly wage is below mimimum wage. Meaning as long as $500 a week is 40 hours at mimimum wage plus 10 hours OT, it's all legal. $500 gross is likely above that, good wage, accept it! Don't listen to all these people. There is So much confusion.!


No confusion. There is no way to legally work it out every week with a different hourly rate for the different hours worked to come up with $500 a week exactly. These folks are paying under the table and you know it. No MB/DB would ever go to the trouble of prorating each hour and taking out taxes, withholdings to come up with $500.


Breedlove and W-2 software are often mainly weekly salaries put in. Just automate it, get your money, do your job and stop making up stuff on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 21:47     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am salaried, working part time for 2-3 hours a day each weekday and I get a flat $450 a week. It works out fine. Sometimes they don't need me, sometimes I go home early, and every now and then I stay an hour or two late for an event or dinner (maybe once a month, if that.)

I think I am much better off salaried than dicking around with an hour here or "you own me $30 minutes for this day." I don't feel taken advantage of, NF doesn't have to count hours, and I know exactly what I will bring home each week. Add that to my more traditional part time daytime job and I comfortable know my weekly income down to the penny.



How are you paid legally with a flat salary like this? Honest question. Your gross is always 450 -- I just don't see how your employers can work that out legally every week.

Honestly - please explain.


How isn't that legal? somedays her hourly rate is higher, sometimes lower. big whoop. plus in this case it's only 10-15 hours a week of aftercare.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 21:44     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
I got an offer 50 hours a week and the new family suggested they pay me a flat rate ( 500$ weekly payment). They said this is good because if they don't need me I still get paid. Or if I'm late or need to leave early I still get paid too. No laundry, cleaning, cooking etc.

I'm independent contractor and I prefer hourly rate. Meaning 40 hours x $12 my rate. 10 hrs is consider my overtime. As you all know nowadays parents always come back late so its not fair for me to get flat rate.


Note: I'm not in the expensive city (NY, SF, LA)

Any idea? thank in advance.


What do you want per week for 50 hours a week (MAX) of work? Counter with that.

Many nannies get a direct deposit of their guaranteed hours or their weekly salary. Many nannies work 45, 50, 55 hours a week at a salary. You can back in to the regular rate or OT rate if that makes you feel better. If you don't want to work that many hours, take something else. If you'd rather work PT at a different rate, take something else. Leave this job for the nannies who want one stable job and a larger annual income (for commensurate work of 50+ hours a week).

Is your issue you want more money or what?
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 21:34     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am salaried, working part time for 2-3 hours a day each weekday and I get a flat $450 a week. It works out fine. Sometimes they don't need me, sometimes I go home early, and every now and then I stay an hour or two late for an event or dinner (maybe once a month, if that.)

I think I am much better off salaried than dicking around with an hour here or "you own me $30 minutes for this day." I don't feel taken advantage of, NF doesn't have to count hours, and I know exactly what I will bring home each week. Add that to my more traditional part time daytime job and I comfortable know my weekly income down to the penny.



How are you paid legally with a flat salary like this? Honest question. Your gross is always 450 -- I just don't see how your employers can work that out legally every week.

Honestly - please explain.


The same way that employers who guarantee x number of hours at y rate pay the same every week.


By the way, even if PP was working 3 hours all 5 days, that's only 15 hours per week, so it divides out to $30/hour. In order for them to not be legal, they would have to work her 54 per week.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 21:32     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am salaried, working part time for 2-3 hours a day each weekday and I get a flat $450 a week. It works out fine. Sometimes they don't need me, sometimes I go home early, and every now and then I stay an hour or two late for an event or dinner (maybe once a month, if that.)

I think I am much better off salaried than dicking around with an hour here or "you own me $30 minutes for this day." I don't feel taken advantage of, NF doesn't have to count hours, and I know exactly what I will bring home each week. Add that to my more traditional part time daytime job and I comfortable know my weekly income down to the penny.



How are you paid legally with a flat salary like this? Honest question. Your gross is always 450 -- I just don't see how your employers can work that out legally every week.

Honestly - please explain.


The same way that employers who guarantee x number of hours at y rate pay the same every week.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 21:01     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
I once work with one family and they also give me a flat pay salary. 50 hours turned to 55 hours a week. No tips no OT. No tax No paid holiday, No sick days ..NADA!!I got the same amount of CASH at the end of the week. Its not worthy so I quit.

Well lesson learned.


Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 20:45     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
Anonymous wrote:I am salaried, working part time for 2-3 hours a day each weekday and I get a flat $450 a week. It works out fine. Sometimes they don't need me, sometimes I go home early, and every now and then I stay an hour or two late for an event or dinner (maybe once a month, if that.)

I think I am much better off salaried than dicking around with an hour here or "you own me $30 minutes for this day." I don't feel taken advantage of, NF doesn't have to count hours, and I know exactly what I will bring home each week. Add that to my more traditional part time daytime job and I comfortable know my weekly income down to the penny.



How are you paid legally with a flat salary like this? Honest question. Your gross is always 450 -- I just don't see how your employers can work that out legally every week.

Honestly - please explain.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2015 20:42     Subject: Flat rate salary or hourly?
I am salaried, working part time for 2-3 hours a day each weekday and I get a flat $450 a week. It works out fine. Sometimes they don't need me, sometimes I go home early, and every now and then I stay an hour or two late for an event or dinner (maybe once a month, if that.)

I think I am much better off salaried than dicking around with an hour here or "you own me $30 minutes for this day." I don't feel taken advantage of, NF doesn't have to count hours, and I know exactly what I will bring home each week. Add that to my more traditional part time daytime job and I comfortable know my weekly income down to the penny.