Anonymous
Post 11/02/2015 14:05     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


I am passionate about my line of work because I absolutely adore children. I am very good at my job and I do not come cheap. I still barely get by, but I have my own home to maintain. I am not a babysitter and will not accept a babysitter's wage simply because I love my job. I also respect myself.

+1,000,000

+2,000,000
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 23:18     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why the endless parade of disgruntled parents on this forum with all the complaining about their great(?) nanny?

Is it true? You get what you pay for? Yikes!!


I don't see the correlation with pay. An awful nanny, lazy nanny, bad attitude nanny, selfish nanny, poor judgment nanny, and argumentative nannies exist at all pay scales.

Typical bell curve of skills and preformance at each rate.


I don't agree. When you look for a woman who went to college in Early Childhood Development and has taught in preschools, you are going to weed out the "awful, lazy, bad attitude, poor judgement nannies". Yes, you could easily still get an argumentative nanny. But when you pay for someone who has put a great deal into becoming a nanny, the chances are great that you will find a wonderful nanny.

Just stay away from the 20 year old, barely finished high school, "Starbucks-was-too-hard-so-I became-a-nanny" nannies.


I'd say an argumentative nanny is synonymous with a bad attitude nanny. Too difficult to work with so get rid of them. Not worthy the stress of everything and always clear that they don't out the kids as the priority. Too busy putting themselves or their pocketbook as the priority.

Agree with a former poster. You start out and then earn your raises and above grade pay by outperforming. Then you get paid well. You want $20/hour? Ok, well start at this and here's what we want to see for $20/hour. If that's happening then in 6 months you'll get that. Otherwise don't waste everyone's time. Oh, and if you have a bad attitude, keep interviewing elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 20:21     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why the endless parade of disgruntled parents on this forum with all the complaining about their great(?) nanny?

Is it true? You get what you pay for? Yikes!!


I don't see the correlation with pay. An awful nanny, lazy nanny, bad attitude nanny, selfish nanny, poor judgment nanny, and argumentative nannies exist at all pay scales.

Typical bell curve of skills and preformance at each rate.


I don't agree. When you look for a woman who went to college in Early Childhood Development and has taught in preschools, you are going to weed out the "awful, lazy, bad attitude, poor judgement nannies". Yes, you could easily still get an argumentative nanny. But when you pay for someone who has put a great deal into becoming a nanny, the chances are great that you will find a wonderful nanny.

Just stay away from the 20 year old, barely finished high school, "Starbucks-was-too-hard-so-I became-a-nanny" nannies.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 20:14     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:Why the endless parade of disgruntled parents on this forum with all the complaining about their great(?) nanny?

Is it true? You get what you pay for? Yikes!!


I don't see the correlation with pay. An awful nanny, lazy nanny, bad attitude nanny, selfish nanny, poor judgment nanny, and argumentative nannies exist at all pay scales.

Typical bell curve of skills and preformance at each rate.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 20:06     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:Why the endless parade of disgruntled parents on this forum with all the complaining about their great(?) nanny?

Is it true? You get what you pay for? Yikes!!


We often share notes with our family friends in their childcare arrangements and they all vary (nannies, au pairs, day care, grandparents, preschool, nanny shares, etc.). Each of them, and each nanny, and it was clear that there is no perfect childcare arrangement. Each solution had its positives and its annoyances. A change was made if the annoyances passed a certain threshold. You try to work with the provider on fixing the annoyances but it has to be two way. Major issues, totally different, instant change.

That's my take on mediocre nannies. They are employed as long as their positives outweigh their minor annoyances.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 19:17     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


Everybody loves money.. nannies also have family to feed ..they don't come for free.. cut the cap and stay at home....some of the parents in this sites are pathetic.


No mb said nanny should work for free. Wtf are you talking about? If you need more money than a competive nanny salary, do something else. If you are not qualified or not willing to do anything else, that is your fault, not MB.

Me, I love gardening but instead I am a lawyer because it pays the bills. I don't open a gardening shop then bi*ch out my customers for not paying 1000 for a plant because I have a family to feed.



And yet there are plants that cost $1,000 and are worth it to the buyers. You could work as a gardener or landscape designer if you went to school and got work experience - why didn't you?

Your analogy is ridiculous. I don't want a nanny who sees being a nanny as a hobby or "something to do until...". While the PP you are responding to is an idiot - your post was ridiculous as well.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 16:32     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


Everybody loves money.. nannies also have family to feed ..they don't come for free.. cut the cap and stay at home....some of the parents in this sites are pathetic.


No mb said nanny should work for free. Wtf are you talking about? If you need more money than a competive nanny salary, do something else. If you are not qualified or not willing to do anything else, that is your fault, not MB.

Me, I love gardening but instead I am a lawyer because it pays the bills. I don't open a gardening shop then bi*ch out my customers for not paying 1000 for a plant because I have a family to feed.


Well said. Completely agree! And guess what, I'm not an MB!
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 15:27     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


Everybody loves money.. nannies also have family to feed ..they don't come for free.. cut the cap and stay at home....some of the parents in this sites are pathetic.


No mb said nanny should work for free. Wtf are you talking about? If you need more money than a competive nanny salary, do something else. If you are not qualified or not willing to do anything else, that is your fault, not MB.

Me, I love gardening but instead I am a lawyer because it pays the bills. I don't open a gardening shop then bi*ch out my customers for not paying 1000 for a plant because I have a family to feed.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 14:29     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


Agree tenfold! If you are all about the money then you are missing the most important part! More money comes with more trust and only AFTER the nanny has proved themselves indispensable. Parents, if a nanny does not budge on demanding higher pay, send them packing. There are nannies out there that will love your kid and wait for the payoff. Disclaimer: this does not mean that they will accept less than $15, because that would mean they were being taking advantage of in the DMV. P.s. I'm an extremely happily employed nanny.


I am "in it" because I love children as well. But I also have a MA in Early Childhood Development (with a BA in liberal arts from an excellent university) and have taught in preschool for five years prior to becoming a nanny. I have been a nanny for ten years. I also sign, speak French and have brilliant references. I will simply not take a position for starting less than $25 an hour. Why would I?

There is a huge chasm in talents, experience and education in the nanny profession now.

And I have no idea which way the profession will go - if it will continue to move toward educated nannies or go back to the nanny being the housekeeper who keeps an eye on the children.


You should work for the highest amount you can get. You might actually be a governess instead of a nanny. Rates for governess are higher. If you can get $25, go for it, no one is debating that here. The conflict and what people are workers up about is that they want $25, can't get it, then come here to talk about how much they deserve it and how MBs are scum for hoarding all the money for themselves and not sharing like a good socialist community should.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 14:22     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


Agree tenfold! If you are all about the money then you are missing the most important part! More money comes with more trust and only AFTER the nanny has proved themselves indispensable. Parents, if a nanny does not budge on demanding higher pay, send them packing. There are nannies out there that will love your kid and wait for the payoff. Disclaimer: this does not mean that they will accept less than $15, because that would mean they were being taking advantage of in the DMV. P.s. I'm an extremely happily employed nanny.


I am "in it" because I love children as well. But I also have a MA in Early Childhood Development (with a BA in liberal arts from an excellent university) and have taught in preschool for five years prior to becoming a nanny. I have been a nanny for ten years. I also sign, speak French and have brilliant references. I will simply not take a position for starting less than $25 an hour. Why would I?

There is a huge chasm in talents, experience and education in the nanny profession now.

And I have no idea which way the profession will go - if it will continue to move toward educated nannies or go back to the nanny being the housekeeper who keeps an eye on the children.


PP here. Great, you're one of many qualified nannies! I love that there are so many nannies like me who are highly educated and experienced and have varied skills comparable to yours. I personally would not turn down a job just because the family would not be able to pay me exactly what I wanted to be paid. This is not to say that I would let myself be taken advantage of, I just know that an amazing situation can be a different kind of compensation and generosity comes in many forms. I would never live paycheck to paycheck, but I would accept payment on the lower end of my pay range if the fit was right. Maybe I will feel differently later in life. The beauty of nannying is that there are so many different kinds of families, children, work environments, and situations that nannies can "shop around" and choose from.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2015 14:04     Subject: Parents: If you think your average nanny with "average" / market(??) pay is so great,...

Anonymous wrote:I've made the novice mistake of paying more because I thought someone was above average. She was the worst.

The best nannies are the ones who are in it because they love children and not the money. They don't ask for the most money.

You obviously have never hired a nanny.


Everybody loves money.. nannies also have family to feed ..they don't come for free.. cut the cap and stay at home....some of the parents in this sites are pathetic.