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Anonymous wrote:It is not treating someone with disrespect when they film their own house and own kids and how they are being treated. Get over yourself and definitely find yourself a new job.

Filming someone without their consent isn't disrespectful? And it isn't dishonest? You can spin it however you want, but you know it's wrong. And someone can be uncomfortable with being secretly film without being an abusive lazy nanny you fools.

I have no problem if I'm being filmed when I'm out in public. My workplace has cameras all over the entrance and reception areas.

Anonymous wrote:It is not treating someone with disrespect when they film their own house and own kids and how they are being treated. Get over yourself and definitely find yourself a new job.

Filming someone without their consent isn't disrespectful? And it isn't dishonest? You can spin it however you want, but you know it's wrong. And someone can be uncomfortable with being secretly film without being an abusive lazy nanny you fools.

DCUM nannies just want to sit in front of the TV and ignore the kids. Throw a plate of food on the table and take it or leave it for the day. Of course they don't want a camera.

And they won't take less than $40/hr either.

They do not want moms, grandparents, or cameras around because it threatens their way of life.

I will never hire anyone who refers to ideas on this site or seems to even know of this site.

It is not treating someone with disrespect when they film their own house and own kids and how they are being treated. Get over yourself and definitely find yourself a new job.

Anonymous wrote:Should we tell our nanny that we have cameras in the house? Any opinion will help! Thanks!

Yes, of course. You have cameras to see your child during the day and not to catch the nanny in a wrong-doing, right?

Our nanny asked us about cameras and encouraged us to get them.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course all nannies want to know if there are cameras. They all claim that they change their shirts in our living rooms or something. But as others have said, they forget it's not THEIR house, it's not THEIR private space. If they want privacy to pick a wedgie or change their shirt after being spit up on, that's what the bathroom is for.

They all claim they're self-conscious knowing they're on camera - that they can't be as silly with the kids as they would be without cameras. So they're never silly with kids outside the house? Come on. I've sung to my babies walking through Costco, I taught my DD gymnastics at the playground, etc.

They claim they don't know what we're doing with the video. Um, we're watching it to make sure you're not beating our kids and not neglecting them for your phone or tv shows. We're watching it to make sure you're not letting the kids watch tv when we've told you they're not to, that you're reading to them after we've asked that you do. Our husbands aren't jacking off to the sight of you, and we're not sitting with our friends drinking beers, watching and laughing while you hula hoop with our toddler.

References are well and good, but they're not everything.

1) Work on your tendency to stereotype. You do not know how "all" nannies feel, nor do you know their reasoning. You can only address specific opinions expressed here, and they do not represent the opinions of every nanny ever.

2) You clearly have very little respect for or trust in nannies, so might I suggest checking into childcare options with more oversight? No one is forcing you to use a nanny, which obviously makes you uncomfortable to the point you feel entitled to violate her by filming her in secret.

It's not violating a nanny's privacy to film them in my house, which is their workplace. They should have no expectation of privacy except in the bathroom (or their bedroom also if live-in).

Filming anyone in secret is a violation. It's wrong. You can quote the law, but the law has historically allowed lots of ditasteful things. It is legal for me to film you on my camera phone in public, but it'd probably piss you off if you caught me right? It is legal to film police officers, but they don't tend to love it. No one likes being filmed without their consent, and to do so secretly is a violation. It feels like an assault when you discover it.

You know what is worse that that? A stranger you invited to your home and paid to take care of your little ones either not taken care of, yelled at, or otherwise treated badly. Even worse than that is that this kind of thing happening to your little ones for an extended period of time because kids lack communication skills and MB has no idea. This is a lot more common than you think. I'm not talking about not just abuse but halfway there. MBs looking at their phone while charges jump from stairs and break their leg. This is the real danger MBs are trying to avoid by having a nanny cam.My nannies are always ok with me with me working from home, and they were also ok with the camera. The plethora of nannies here who would "quit on the spot" really makes me question your integrity. You should know the big elephant issue MB is facing when she leaves her children with you. The big question-are you treating your charges with half the care you show when I'm around? For you to be so unrelenting in asking for complete privacy and being so disgusted with the potential aspect really makes me question your integrity and the quality of care you provide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLbbHdIw-0M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhOPoX9U6pQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVG04EG1ljY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O15UhEKLXtk

There is no shortage of footage like this. Nannies have a history of taking out their anger on helpless babies. What are you hiding? Why do you not understand MB's position?

I understand your position. I'm not saying that I don't. I maintain that secretly filming someone is not a healthy or fair way to handle your fear. The way to handle that fear is choosing another type of care that makes you more comfortable. Because others have acted inappropriately doesn't mean that I will accept being treated like a potential criminal. That is absolutely ridiculous and not something generally encouraged in this country. I have absolutely no problem working with parents around, unannounced drop ins, whatever, but I will not tolerate being secretly filmed. Im sorry that makes me a terrible person in your eyes. We can agree to disagree and you can continue spying and I will work for employers that treat me with respect and decency.

pp here. ignore the second link. I know it is a show. cut and paste error.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course all nannies want to know if there are cameras. They all claim that they change their shirts in our living rooms or something. But as others have said, they forget it's not THEIR house, it's not THEIR private space. If they want privacy to pick a wedgie or change their shirt after being spit up on, that's what the bathroom is for.

They all claim they're self-conscious knowing they're on camera - that they can't be as silly with the kids as they would be without cameras. So they're never silly with kids outside the house? Come on. I've sung to my babies walking through Costco, I taught my DD gymnastics at the playground, etc.

They claim they don't know what we're doing with the video. Um, we're watching it to make sure you're not beating our kids and not neglecting them for your phone or tv shows. We're watching it to make sure you're not letting the kids watch tv when we've told you they're not to, that you're reading to them after we've asked that you do. Our husbands aren't jacking off to the sight of you, and we're not sitting with our friends drinking beers, watching and laughing while you hula hoop with our toddler.

References are well and good, but they're not everything.

1) Work on your tendency to stereotype. You do not know how "all" nannies feel, nor do you know their reasoning. You can only address specific opinions expressed here, and they do not represent the opinions of every nanny ever.

2) You clearly have very little respect for or trust in nannies, so might I suggest checking into childcare options with more oversight? No one is forcing you to use a nanny, which obviously makes you uncomfortable to the point you feel entitled to violate her by filming her in secret.

It's not violating a nanny's privacy to film them in my house, which is their workplace. They should have no expectation of privacy except in the bathroom (or their bedroom also if live-in).

Filming anyone in secret is a violation. It's wrong. You can quote the law, but the law has historically allowed lots of ditasteful things. It is legal for me to film you on my camera phone in public, but it'd probably piss you off if you caught me right? It is legal to film police officers, but they don't tend to love it. No one likes being filmed without their consent, and to do so secretly is a violation. It feels like an assault when you discover it.

You know what is worse that that? A stranger you invited to your home and paid to take care of your little ones either not taken care of, yelled at, or otherwise treated badly. Even worse than that is that this kind of thing happening to your little ones for an extended period of time because kids lack communication skills and MB has no idea. This is a lot more common than you think. I'm not talking about not just abuse but halfway there. MBs looking at their phone while charges jump from stairs and break their leg. This is the real danger MBs are trying to avoid by having a nanny cam.My nannies are always ok with me with me working from home, and they were also ok with the camera. The plethora of nannies here who would "quit on the spot" really makes me question your integrity. You should know the big elephant issue MB is facing when she leaves her children with you. The big question-are you treating your charges with half the care you show when I'm around? For you to be so unrelenting in asking for complete privacy and being so disgusted with the potential aspect really makes me question your integrity and the quality of care you provide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLbbHdIw-0M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhOPoX9U6pQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVG04EG1ljY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O15UhEKLXtk

There is no shortage of footage like this. Nannies have a history of taking out their anger on helpless babies. What are you hiding? Why do you not understand MB's position?

Voyeurism is a sick condition.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course all nannies want to know if there are cameras. They all claim that they change their shirts in our living rooms or something. But as others have said, they forget it's not THEIR house, it's not THEIR private space. If they want privacy to pick a wedgie or change their shirt after being spit up on, that's what the bathroom is for.

They all claim they're self-conscious knowing they're on camera - that they can't be as silly with the kids as they would be without cameras. So they're never silly with kids outside the house? Come on. I've sung to my babies walking through Costco, I taught my DD gymnastics at the playground, etc.

They claim they don't know what we're doing with the video. Um, we're watching it to make sure you're not beating our kids and not neglecting them for your phone or tv shows. We're watching it to make sure you're not letting the kids watch tv when we've told you they're not to, that you're reading to them after we've asked that you do. Our husbands aren't jacking off to the sight of you, and we're not sitting with our friends drinking beers, watching and laughing while you hula hoop with our toddler.

References are well and good, but they're not everything.

1) Work on your tendency to stereotype. You do not know how "all" nannies feel, nor do you know their reasoning. You can only address specific opinions expressed here, and they do not represent the opinions of every nanny ever.

2) You clearly have very little respect for or trust in nannies, so might I suggest checking into childcare options with more oversight? No one is forcing you to use a nanny, which obviously makes you uncomfortable to the point you feel entitled to violate her by filming her in secret.

It's not violating a nanny's privacy to film them in my house, which is their workplace. They should have no expectation of privacy except in the bathroom (or their bedroom also if live-in).

Filming anyone in secret is a violation. It's wrong. You can quote the law, but the law has historically allowed lots of ditasteful things. It is legal for me to film you on my camera phone in public, but it'd probably piss you off if you caught me right? It is legal to film police officers, but they don't tend to love it. No one likes being filmed without their consent, and to do so secretly is a violation. It feels like an assault when you discover it.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course all nannies want to know if there are cameras. They all claim that they change their shirts in our living rooms or something. But as others have said, they forget it's not THEIR house, it's not THEIR private space. If they want privacy to pick a wedgie or change their shirt after being spit up on, that's what the bathroom is for.

They all claim they're self-conscious knowing they're on camera - that they can't be as silly with the kids as they would be without cameras. So they're never silly with kids outside the house? Come on. I've sung to my babies walking through Costco, I taught my DD gymnastics at the playground, etc.

They claim they don't know what we're doing with the video. Um, we're watching it to make sure you're not beating our kids and not neglecting them for your phone or tv shows. We're watching it to make sure you're not letting the kids watch tv when we've told you they're not to, that you're reading to them after we've asked that you do. Our husbands aren't jacking off to the sight of you, and we're not sitting with our friends drinking beers, watching and laughing while you hula hoop with our toddler.

References are well and good, but they're not everything.

1) Work on your tendency to stereotype. You do not know how "all" nannies feel, nor do you know their reasoning. You can only address specific opinions expressed here, and they do not represent the opinions of every nanny ever.

2) You clearly have very little respect for or trust in nannies, so might I suggest checking into childcare options with more oversight? No one is forcing you to use a nanny, which obviously makes you uncomfortable to the point you feel entitled to violate her by filming her in secret.

It's not violating a nanny's privacy to film them in my house, which is their workplace. They should have no expectation of privacy except in the bathroom (or their bedroom also if live-in).

Anonymous wrote:Of course all nannies want to know if there are cameras. They all claim that they change their shirts in our living rooms or something. But as others have said, they forget it's not THEIR house, it's not THEIR private space. If they want privacy to pick a wedgie or change their shirt after being spit up on, that's what the bathroom is for.

They all claim they're self-conscious knowing they're on camera - that they can't be as silly with the kids as they would be without cameras. So they're never silly with kids outside the house? Come on. I've sung to my babies walking through Costco, I taught my DD gymnastics at the playground, etc.

They claim they don't know what we're doing with the video. Um, we're watching it to make sure you're not beating our kids and not neglecting them for your phone or tv shows. We're watching it to make sure you're not letting the kids watch tv when we've told you they're not to, that you're reading to them after we've asked that you do. Our husbands aren't jacking off to the sight of you, and we're not sitting with our friends drinking beers, watching and laughing while you hula hoop with our toddler.

References are well and good, but they're not everything.

1) Work on your tendency to stereotype. You do not know how "all" nannies feel, nor do you know their reasoning. You can only address specific opinions expressed here, and they do not represent the opinions of every nanny ever.

2) You clearly have very little respect for or trust in nannies, so might I suggest checking into childcare options with more oversight? No one is forcing you to use a nanny, which obviously makes you uncomfortable to the point you feel entitled to violate her by filming her in secret.

Op - will it be with audio? I don't know the law there but you have to have consent of the employee in order to stream or record voice. You will be opening yourself up to a lawsuit if you do not get a signed written consent form.

Anonymous wrote:I told my nanny we have a camera in the basement and for the rest of the year, she never ever went in there and brought all the toys and every single thing upstairs. We pay a lot of money for extra space that we never use.

I would advise against it. I personally think a camera is to gain trust in your nanny that she would treat your charges when no one is around, since you can not have a camera watching every move 100% of the time. If you disclose, the behavior changes and you don't know what she is doing to the kid when there is no camera.

A lot of nannies will tell you that you must disclose but I think this is their way of "winning" in a power struggle. Many will threaten to quit but the same people also complain about living paycheck to paycheck and needing guaranteed hours and such and I highly doubt that they would quit with no notice on the spot if they found a camera. I think if they were so difficult that they could not work under a camera, they'd have a hard time finding a job too, and they'd take months to find a new job while you'd have a replacement in 2 weeks.

I've worked for a handful of different companies, some very large. All of them had cameras. No one ever disclosed them to me, on HR orientation day or after.

Your mistake was in telling your nanny WHERE exactly the camera was located. Your second mistake was not following up and figuring out just what she was doing that she didn't want filmed. Do you still employ her? You also seem to have a very poor opinion of nannies in general. Perhaps that is why you had to hire (and retain?) a nanny who chose to not use the room you told her was cammed. Or maybe your pay rate is not up to par?

This is all parents have to say when interviewing nannies:

"We do reserve the right to place cameras in our home and use them. You have our word we will not ever place a cam in a bathroom. We will also do everything in our power to make sure the cams are not easily hijacked via the internet, and we will follow the laws of this state, which say we <blah de blah> when cams are involved. We also promise that any video recorded is for our own viewing, and we will not ever share the video with others - the only other people who would see the footage is law enforcement if there was an issue that needed legal involvement."

If a nanny refuses to be filmed ever she will say so, and you can eliminate her from your candidate list.

Personally, I would not be thrilled about the chance I was being cammed, but I would understand why parents felt it was needed. I would ask that after a period of time in which they have seen I can be trusted, that they limit or eliminate the use of any cams. And yes, I know some cams can be used to "peek in" during the day, but that would annoy me a bit, especially if the cam could also be used to talk to me/the child.

Because they are expensive.