Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 13:39     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I agree with 13:26. A lot of parents are listening to uneducated celebrities ( cough..JC..cough) while throwing out actual science from people who are very educated on the topic. This is leading to the outbreak of measles and whopping cough. I am hardcore pro-vax. I think people are idiotic for not vaccinating but I have no right to tell them how they should raise their child. I think it's important pediatricians and classes banned all unvaccinated children.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 10:25     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I agree with 13:26. A lot of parents are listening to uneducated celebrities ( cough..JC..cough) while throwing out actual science from people who are very educated on the topic. This is leading to the outbreak of measles and whopping cough. I am hardcore pro-vax. I think people are idiotic for not vaccinating but I have no right to tell them how they should raise their child. I think it's important pediatricians and classes banned all unvaccinated children.


I think it's important pediatricians and classes ban all parents who think they have anything to do with someone else's life.

The minute your ignorant decision puts my child in danger, it is no longer just your life. Keep your kid at home if you can't bother to follow basic safety practices. I can't believe this is even an issue.


I vaccinate, so I don't know what you're ranting about.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 09:02     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Like I said. I am live in California. I am not in DC. We have a lot of anti-vaxers and some places ( at least in my area) are requiring the child to be vaccinated. Even some pediatricians offices, too.

My sister is a physician in Chicago. Her clinic turns away the unvaccinated. She said a few daycares and classes in her area are no longer allow unvaccinated children due to an outbreak about a year back.

I am not making any of this up. I asked and even apologized incase I offended them. The mom was smiling and said I didn't. This is not about my choice or outlook on vaccines.


So you're stating you can't bring babies under 1 to any of these places? I find that hard to believe.



Babies under 1 year of age are not completely unvaccinated. They start getting their vaccinations when they are born in the hospital. Why do you think they have all of those appointments from birth to 12 months old. I believe in vaccinations but have also seen some kids have very bad reactions, so do understand why people delay or do the alternative schedule.


Technically kids do not have the majority of vaccines till ate 5, starting K. Kids under 5 are not completely vaccinated and most adults do not keep up with their vaccines so all of this "pro vs. anti" vaccines is very deceiving.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 23:40     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Like I said. I am live in California. I am not in DC. We have a lot of anti-vaxers and some places ( at least in my area) are requiring the child to be vaccinated. Even some pediatricians offices, too.

My sister is a physician in Chicago. Her clinic turns away the unvaccinated. She said a few daycares and classes in her area are no longer allow unvaccinated children due to an outbreak about a year back.

I am not making any of this up. I asked and even apologized incase I offended them. The mom was smiling and said I didn't. This is not about my choice or outlook on vaccines.


So you're stating you can't bring babies under 1 to any of these places? I find that hard to believe.



Babies under 1 year of age are not completely unvaccinated. They start getting their vaccinations when they are born in the hospital. Why do you think they have all of those appointments from birth to 12 months old. I believe in vaccinations but have also seen some kids have very bad reactions, so do understand why people delay or do the alternative schedule.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 23:24     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I agree with 13:26. A lot of parents are listening to uneducated celebrities ( cough..JC..cough) while throwing out actual science from people who are very educated on the topic. This is leading to the outbreak of measles and whopping cough. I am hardcore pro-vax. I think people are idiotic for not vaccinating but I have no right to tell them how they should raise their child. I think it's important pediatricians and classes banned all unvaccinated children.


I think it's important pediatricians and classes ban all parents who think they have anything to do with someone else's life.

The minute your ignorant decision puts my child in danger, it is no longer just your life. Keep your kid at home if you can't bother to follow basic safety practices. I can't believe this is even an issue.


So, you are basically keeping you child under age 5 at home till they are mostly immunized? Or, do you just pick and choose which things work best for you in terms of safety. If anything, I'm not so worried about vaccines vs. the common cold or flu, which can be life threatening to some. Keep your sick kids and yourself at home.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 21:29     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I agree with 13:26. A lot of parents are listening to uneducated celebrities ( cough..JC..cough) while throwing out actual science from people who are very educated on the topic. This is leading to the outbreak of measles and whopping cough. I am hardcore pro-vax. I think people are idiotic for not vaccinating but I have no right to tell them how they should raise their child. I think it's important pediatricians and classes banned all unvaccinated children.


I think it's important pediatricians and classes ban all parents who think they have anything to do with someone else's life.

The minute your ignorant decision puts my child in danger, it is no longer just your life. Keep your kid at home if you can't bother to follow basic safety practices. I can't believe this is even an issue.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 21:10     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Like I said. I am live in California. I am not in DC. We have a lot of anti-vaxers and some places ( at least in my area) are requiring the child to be vaccinated. Even some pediatricians offices, too.

My sister is a physician in Chicago. Her clinic turns away the unvaccinated. She said a few daycares and classes in her area are no longer allow unvaccinated children due to an outbreak about a year back.

I am not making any of this up. I asked and even apologized incase I offended them. The mom was smiling and said I didn't. This is not about my choice or outlook on vaccines.


So you're stating you can't bring babies under 1 to any of these places? I find that hard to believe.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 19:50     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Like I said. I am live in California. I am not in DC. We have a lot of anti-vaxers and some places ( at least in my area) are requiring the child to be vaccinated. Even some pediatricians offices, too.

My sister is a physician in Chicago. Her clinic turns away the unvaccinated. She said a few daycares and classes in her area are no longer allow unvaccinated children due to an outbreak about a year back.

I am not making any of this up. I asked and even apologized incase I offended them. The mom was smiling and said I didn't. This is not about my choice or outlook on vaccines.


Some children have strong reactions to vaccines. There are reason to delay (not just reactions) or go on a different schedule.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 16:21     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:I'm OP and I agree with 13:26. A lot of parents are listening to uneducated celebrities ( cough..JC..cough) while throwing out actual science from people who are very educated on the topic. This is leading to the outbreak of measles and whopping cough. I am hardcore pro-vax. I think people are idiotic for not vaccinating but I have no right to tell them how they should raise their child. I think it's important pediatricians and classes banned all unvaccinated children.


I think it's important pediatricians and classes ban all parents who think they have anything to do with someone else's life.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 15:41     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
I'm OP and I agree with 13:26. A lot of parents are listening to uneducated celebrities ( cough..JC..cough) while throwing out actual science from people who are very educated on the topic. This is leading to the outbreak of measles and whopping cough. I am hardcore pro-vax. I think people are idiotic for not vaccinating but I have no right to tell them how they should raise their child. I think it's important pediatricians and classes banned all unvaccinated children.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 13:30     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't answer a nanny who asked, just like I don't require them of my nanny. I've never encountered a class that asked about vaccination status (DC is mostly up to date - we missed a visit due to overseas travel and are working on getting caught up) and frankly, I don't know if I am or not. I don't understand why people feel so strongly about this.



http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
http://time.com/27308/4-diseases-making-a-comeback-thanks-to-anti-vaxxers/

This is why people care. Anti-vaxxers are actually killing people based on science that was completely debunked and fraudulent.

Vaccines work based on herd immunity, and vaccinating the healthy protects those who are unable to be vaccinated like very small babies or the imunocompromised. I should not have to be afraid of taking my 6 month old to a class because you (not you specifically, PP) have decided to bring your unvaccinated 3 year old who may be carrying the measles virus to the same place. There should be a reasonable expectation of safety in places that are frequented by young children (parks, music classes, story-time, etc) and part of that safety includes reducing the risk of spreading deadly diseases by being intelligent/responsible and vaccinating your children appropriately.



I guess if that's your thing, it's your thing.

Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 13:26     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't answer a nanny who asked, just like I don't require them of my nanny. I've never encountered a class that asked about vaccination status (DC is mostly up to date - we missed a visit due to overseas travel and are working on getting caught up) and frankly, I don't know if I am or not. I don't understand why people feel so strongly about this.



http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
http://time.com/27308/4-diseases-making-a-comeback-thanks-to-anti-vaxxers/

This is why people care. Anti-vaxxers are actually killing people based on science that was completely debunked and fraudulent.

Vaccines work based on herd immunity, and vaccinating the healthy protects those who are unable to be vaccinated like very small babies or the imunocompromised. I should not have to be afraid of taking my 6 month old to a class because you (not you specifically, PP) have decided to bring your unvaccinated 3 year old who may be carrying the measles virus to the same place. There should be a reasonable expectation of safety in places that are frequented by young children (parks, music classes, story-time, etc) and part of that safety includes reducing the risk of spreading deadly diseases by being intelligent/responsible and vaccinating your children appropriately.

Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 12:24     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here.

When I was interviewing about 2 1/2 years ago I started including this question in my interviews. I'm in California and we have a lot of anti vaccination people here. I personally believe in vaccinations strongly and don't feel comfortable taking a babies and toddlers who have had no vaccinations out and about all over so I think this is one of those things that I need to agree with my NF about.


So you don't take babies under 6-12 months?
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 12:23     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
I wouldn't answer a nanny who asked, just like I don't require them of my nanny. I've never encountered a class that asked about vaccination status (DC is mostly up to date - we missed a visit due to overseas travel and are working on getting caught up) and frankly, I don't know if I am or not. I don't understand why people feel so strongly about this.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2015 12:16     Subject: Do you ask if the child is vaccinated - MB's weigh in!
OP here. Like I said. I am live in California. I am not in DC. We have a lot of anti-vaxers and some places ( at least in my area) are requiring the child to be vaccinated. Even some pediatricians offices, too.

My sister is a physician in Chicago. Her clinic turns away the unvaccinated. She said a few daycares and classes in her area are no longer allow unvaccinated children due to an outbreak about a year back.

I am not making any of this up. I asked and even apologized incase I offended them. The mom was smiling and said I didn't. This is not about my choice or outlook on vaccines.