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PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Except that it is fair. A compensation package must include fair market rate for the value of the living space, including all the perks like cable, utilities and cell phones. Yes, it drives down the hourly rate, but they are getting valuable compensation by saving on rent. Some nannies might not like it, but it is absolutely fair and if a nanny doesn't like it, she should not apply for live in positions. Simple.

No. I'm a live-in nanny and I don't allow for my hourly rate to drop due to your "utilities." I know what I need and what I want, and I can live without cable, televisions, a pricey cell phone, etc. I've been living on my own for years, and I know how to find a decent apartment for a decent cost; my contract always states that I will not be charged for rent, food, utilities and extras (I pay for my cell phone myself unless the family needs me doing 300+ minutes for work per month) and I won't have my pay docked for any of these either. Sorry, I live in the family's home for THEIR convenience, not mine.

How refreshing. A very smart nanny.

Says herself (and no employer ever.)

Actually, so far, I've had three employers that blinked when I said that I would pay for my own cell phone, then they grinned. And two positions paid quite well, one averaged out to $23/hour and the other to about $17/hour, both for kids in school full-time. The other position was crap pay for lots of work, but he is a fantastic reference and doesn't care how many people call him, his kids are golden and I loved living with the family, so I wasn't worried about negotiating higher pay, although we had agreed to renegotiate at the end of the first month. As far as I'm concerned, the reference has been worth more than a few hundred more per week.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Except that it is fair. A compensation package must include fair market rate for the value of the living space, including all the perks like cable, utilities and cell phones. Yes, it drives down the hourly rate, but they are getting valuable compensation by saving on rent. Some nannies might not like it, but it is absolutely fair and if a nanny doesn't like it, she should not apply for live in positions. Simple.

No. I'm a live-in nanny and I don't allow for my hourly rate to drop due to your "utilities." I know what I need and what I want, and I can live without cable, televisions, a pricey cell phone, etc. I've been living on my own for years, and I know how to find a decent apartment for a decent cost; my contract always states that I will not be charged for rent, food, utilities and extras (I pay for my cell phone myself unless the family needs me doing 300+ minutes for work per month) and I won't have my pay docked for any of these either. Sorry, I live in the family's home for THEIR convenience, not mine.

How refreshing. A very smart nanny.

Says herself (and no employer ever.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Except that it is fair. A compensation package must include fair market rate for the value of the living space, including all the perks like cable, utilities and cell phones. Yes, it drives down the hourly rate, but they are getting valuable compensation by saving on rent. Some nannies might not like it, but it is absolutely fair and if a nanny doesn't like it, she should not apply for live in positions. Simple.

No. I'm a live-in nanny and I don't allow for my hourly rate to drop due to your "utilities." I know what I need and what I want, and I can live without cable, televisions, a pricey cell phone, etc. I've been living on my own for years, and I know how to find a decent apartment for a decent cost; my contract always states that I will not be charged for rent, food, utilities and extras (I pay for my cell phone myself unless the family needs me doing 300+ minutes for work per month) and I won't have my pay docked for any of these either. Sorry, I live in the family's home for THEIR convenience, not mine.

How refreshing. A very smart nanny.

Anonymous wrote:

PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Except that it is fair. A compensation package must include fair market rate for the value of the living space, including all the perks like cable, utilities and cell phones. Yes, it drives down the hourly rate, but they are getting valuable compensation by saving on rent. Some nannies might not like it, but it is absolutely fair and if a nanny doesn't like it, she should not apply for live in positions. Simple.

No. I'm a live-in nanny and I don't allow for my hourly rate to drop due to your "utilities." I know what I need and what I want, and I can live without cable, televisions, a pricey cell phone, etc. I've been living on my own for years, and I know how to find a decent apartment for a decent cost; my contract always states that I will not be charged for rent, food, utilities and extras (I pay for my cell phone myself unless the family needs me doing 300+ minutes for work per month) and I won't have my pay docked for any of these either. Sorry, I live in the family's home for THEIR convenience, not mine.

Anonymous wrote:DC now requires that we give our nanny a notice of her hourly pay rate. We used the homeworksolutions.com salary to hourly rate tool, and using their advice calculated for a few hours more than we usually need.

We have 5 10-hour days. We pay $800 a week. So our calculation looks like this:

Employee Weekly compensation of $800.00 gross, based on an gross hourly wage of $13.45 and a 53 hour work week. Employee guaranteed minimum Weekly compensation of $800.00 gross. Weekly hours worked in excess of 40 per week to be compensated at $20.17 gross per hour.

53 hours gives us the latitude of the occasional late day - we only have to recalculate if there are more than 53 hours. We are happy, she is happy, and DC is happy.

Sharing the link HWS sent us about the DC notice requirements:

http://info.homeworksolutions.com/blog/bid/104280/DC-Enacts-Wage-Theft-Prevention-Legislation

Is there a gov link?

I would prefer a salary actually as long as the guidelines are VERY well written out.

DC now requires that we give our nanny a notice of her hourly pay rate. We used the homeworksolutions.com salary to hourly rate tool, and using their advice calculated for a few hours more than we usually need.

We have 5 10-hour days. We pay $800 a week. So our calculation looks like this:

Employee Weekly compensation of $800.00 gross, based on an gross hourly wage of $13.45 and a 53 hour work week. Employee guaranteed minimum Weekly compensation of $800.00 gross. Weekly hours worked in excess of 40 per week to be compensated at $20.17 gross per hour.

53 hours gives us the latitude of the occasional late day - we only have to recalculate if there are more than 53 hours. We are happy, she is happy, and DC is happy.

Sharing the link HWS sent us about the DC notice requirements:

http://info.homeworksolutions.com/blog/bid/104280/DC-Enacts-Wage-Theft-Prevention-Legislation

Well that's not very nice. I have a great nanny that has been with me and my family for a very long time. We do all the things that make us decent employers, including lots of paid vacation, lots of flexibility for the nanny, and we pay for lots of things for her including all those and more that I listed before. She is good with my kids, my dog and my family and I don't think we are paying poorly or getting poor nanny skills in return. Lots of people are unhappy with their nannies or employers and I don't think anyone at my house is unhappy.

She knew the job upfront and it has been exactly what we said. We have annual reviews where she voices concerns and during which we evaluate how things are going and give raises.

I do believe it is both customary and fair to reduce the hourly rate to give her phone, cable, living space, food, gas, and living supplies and if she didn't think so I assume she would quit.

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PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Except that it is fair. A compensation package must include fair market rate for the value of the living space, including all the perks like cable, utilities and cell phones. Yes, it drives down the hourly rate, but they are getting valuable compensation by saving on rent. Some nannies might not like it, but it is absolutely fair and if a nanny doesn't like it, she should not apply for live in positions. Simple.

And you must settle for whatever you get. GL to you.

PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Except that it is fair. A compensation package must include fair market rate for the value of the living space, including all the perks like cable, utilities and cell phones. Yes, it drives down the hourly rate, but they are getting valuable compensation by saving on rent. Some nannies might not like it, but it is absolutely fair and if a nanny doesn't like it, she should not apply for live in positions. Simple.

PP here and I don't know what to say other than I understand most live in nanny's are paid less than live out nanny's. Maybe that isn't fair but it's a choice for the nanny. I offered her a job at a certain price with certain job responsibilities and a place to live and she accepted and stayed. My job is not perfect and I'm sure there are things she dislikes but it isn't a bad job and she has stayed for a while and I believe will continue to stay.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP with the live in. She lives in because she didn't have a place to live when we hired her - she has previously been a live in with a family didn't need it anymore. She wanted a live in job and that's what we wanted because it's more flexible, we have lots of weird hours (sometimes early in the morning or later in the evenings) and we have a dog. We pay less than we would for a live out but we pay for her cell phone, her TV cable channels, her food, her living expenses (obviously she pays no rent, utilities, whatever) so of course that is factored in. We give her paid vacation, she has lots of time off when we travel and we give her raises every year. It's been 7 years so I assume it is working for her and it is working for us. We have some very busy weeks and some very slow weeks and we all discuss the timing of that regularly.

If she's pleased, good. I wouldn't be giving anyone a discounted rate for any of that.

I'm the PP with the live in. She lives in because she didn't have a place to live when we hired her - she has previously been a live in with a family didn't need it anymore. She wanted a live in job and that's what we wanted because it's more flexible, we have lots of weird hours (sometimes early in the morning or later in the evenings) and we have a dog. We pay less than we would for a live out but we pay for her cell phone, her TV cable channels, her food, her living expenses (obviously she pays no rent, utilities, whatever) so of course that is factored in. We give her paid vacation, she has lots of time off when we travel and we give her raises every year. It's been 7 years so I assume it is working for her and it is working for us. We have some very busy weeks and some very slow weeks and we all discuss the timing of that regularly.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a live-in nanny and I only take salary positions. It would be ridiculous for me to need to wake up when my employer gets called into work simply because I need to note the time. Additionally, there are plenty of nannies that don't WANT to live out. I work crazy hours, why would I want the hassle of extra housework and paying rent just to sleep somewhere else?

Hope they pay you well, and you don't have to listen to your charges when you'd rather not hear them. Most people don't have a house big enough for that. But a separate dwelling on the estate might work for me.

I'm a live-in nanny and I only take salary positions. It would be ridiculous for me to need to wake up when my employer gets called into work simply because I need to note the time. Additionally, there are plenty of nannies that don't WANT to live out. I work crazy hours, why would I want the hassle of extra housework and paying rent just to sleep somewhere else?