Anonymous
05/03/2015 00:52
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
To the PP who regarded nannies as being old and fat, who sit around watching talk shows all day, etc., you just are starving for attention. Period.
You love to stir up the pot and are addicted to people's reactions on what you say.
Anyway, being hacked is not a rare occurrence nor are the chances very low that you may be hacked. Hello?? We all live in a computer age here. Hackers abound all over.
That is why if you are going to have cameras in your home, you must offer full disclosure to the nanny. Imagine if some hacker was watching her and your child and you didn't tell her a thing. Then she learned later on that she had been watched for all that time.
Hello lawsuit.
You love to stir up the pot and are addicted to people's reactions on what you say.
Anyway, being hacked is not a rare occurrence nor are the chances very low that you may be hacked. Hello?? We all live in a computer age here. Hackers abound all over.
That is why if you are going to have cameras in your home, you must offer full disclosure to the nanny. Imagine if some hacker was watching her and your child and you didn't tell her a thing. Then she learned later on that she had been watched for all that time.
Hello lawsuit.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 14:54
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can record anything you wish in your own home... your home is not a place of employment like a real business. You owe nanny nothing, there is no law saying that this is allowed, just as there is no law saying it's not. Tell her to suck eggs!
If she works there, it is a place of business. You sound exceedingly unpleasant.
She babysits, it's not her place of employment. By your logic she can walk into Walmart and demand they turn of their cameras because she is working since she has her charge with her. As much as you may wish it otherwise nannies are not professional employees, MBs house is not the nannies office, and nannies don't have any of the protections that pertain to professional salaried workers.
Oh, yeah - it is you again. The troll who has never been a nanny or ever hired a nanny.
Of course a nanny is a professional as being a nanny is a profession. You've already been busted on this crap you spew before - why do keep coming back to embarrass yourself, PP?
If you don't understand the term professional then you should refrain from posting because you look extremely foolish. Is the kid at McDonalds a food service "professional"??? I mean it is his profession right???
NP here and please stop. I am aware of your quest to demean nannies as well. What makes a professional model? One who earns money as a model. What makes a professional golfer? One you earns money as a golfer.
I am a mother who employs a nanny and on her tax return, her profession is listed as NANNY.
Please go away, PP. You have to get help for your obsessive hatred of nannies and your obsession with this forum. It isn't healthy or normal. You aren't a nanny, were not raised with a nanny and do not employ a nanny. You need to stop posting on this forum.
I am going to email Jeff about banning you.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 14:45
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can record anything you wish in your own home... your home is not a place of employment like a real business. You owe nanny nothing, there is no law saying that this is allowed, just as there is no law saying it's not. Tell her to suck eggs!
If she works there, it is a place of business. You sound exceedingly unpleasant.
She babysits, it's not her place of employment. By your logic she can walk into Walmart and demand they turn of their cameras because she is working since she has her charge with her. As much as you may wish it otherwise nannies are not professional employees, MBs house is not the nannies office, and nannies don't have any of the protections that pertain to professional salaried workers.
Oh, yeah - it is you again. The troll who has never been a nanny or ever hired a nanny.
Of course a nanny is a professional as being a nanny is a profession. You've already been busted on this crap you spew before - why do keep coming back to embarrass yourself, PP?
If you don't understand the term professional then you should refrain from posting because you look extremely foolish. Is the kid at McDonalds a food service "professional"??? I mean it is his profession right???
Anonymous
05/02/2015 14:43
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can record anything you wish in your own home... your home is not a place of employment like a real business. You owe nanny nothing, there is no law saying that this is allowed, just as there is no law saying it's not. Tell her to suck eggs!
If she works there, it is a place of business. You sound exceedingly unpleasant.
She babysits, it's not her place of employment. By your logic she can walk into Walmart and demand they turn of their cameras because she is working since she has her charge with her. As much as you may wish it otherwise nannies are not professional employees, MBs house is not the nannies office, and nannies don't have any of the protections that pertain to professional salaried workers.
Nannies are professional employees, Dear. Being a nanny is a profession. Do you seriously think a professional model or professional golfer COULD walk into someone's home and demand anything? Your "dig" at nannies is laughable.
However, a nanny can always refuse to work in a place that has cameras - that is her choice. Same with the gardner, housekeeper, personal trainer, personal assistant, visiting accountant or bookkeeper, tutor, chef, etc. But no one has any legal recourse to getting the cameras removed.
Professional models and golfers don't have places of employment either, I think you are finally getting it even thought you don't realize that.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 13:47
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
13:41 again, and I'd just advise that any parents who use a nanny cam or baby monitor with a video feed to be weary of streaming it over the wifi. It can easily be hacked and yes, there have been cases of pedophiles stalking children and their caregivers - whether it's the mother or a nanny.
If I were a nanny, I would ask employers to utilize tape-recording nanny cams instead of wifi live streaming ones to get around this hacking threat. The parents can still view the footage as they feel the need, and they can utilize hidden cameras so the nanny can't tamper with it, but it's just unnecessarily risky to have a livestream - and the risk is greatest for the children.
If I were a nanny, I would ask employers to utilize tape-recording nanny cams instead of wifi live streaming ones to get around this hacking threat. The parents can still view the footage as they feel the need, and they can utilize hidden cameras so the nanny can't tamper with it, but it's just unnecessarily risky to have a livestream - and the risk is greatest for the children.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 13:41
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
As others have stated, the government doesn't maintain a running list of all legal, permissible activities. Instead, they detail what is prohibited and banned. So you won't find what she's asking for. If that's a dealbreaker for her, that's her call.
Here's something not from a government website, but still a helpful resource: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/babysitternanny-camera-legality.html
Here's something not from a government website, but still a helpful resource: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/babysitternanny-camera-legality.html
Anonymous
05/02/2015 12:08
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can record anything you wish in your own home... your home is not a place of employment like a real business. You owe nanny nothing, there is no law saying that this is allowed, just as there is no law saying it's not. Tell her to suck eggs!
If she works there, it is a place of business. You sound exceedingly unpleasant.
She babysits, it's not her place of employment. By your logic she can walk into Walmart and demand they turn of their cameras because she is working since she has her charge with her. As much as you may wish it otherwise nannies are not professional employees, MBs house is not the nannies office, and nannies don't have any of the protections that pertain to professional salaried workers.
Oh, yeah - it is you again. The troll who has never been a nanny or ever hired a nanny.
Of course a nanny is a professional as being a nanny is a profession. You've already been busted on this crap you spew before - why do keep coming back to embarrass yourself, PP?
Anonymous
05/02/2015 12:06
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can record anything you wish in your own home... your home is not a place of employment like a real business. You owe nanny nothing, there is no law saying that this is allowed, just as there is no law saying it's not. Tell her to suck eggs!
If she works there, it is a place of business. You sound exceedingly unpleasant.
She babysits, it's not her place of employment. By your logic she can walk into Walmart and demand they turn of their cameras because she is working since she has her charge with her. As much as you may wish it otherwise nannies are not professional employees, MBs house is not the nannies office, and nannies don't have any of the protections that pertain to professional salaried workers.
Nannies are professional employees, Dear. Being a nanny is a profession. Do you seriously think a professional model or professional golfer COULD walk into someone's home and demand anything? Your "dig" at nannies is laughable.
However, a nanny can always refuse to work in a place that has cameras - that is her choice. Same with the gardner, housekeeper, personal trainer, personal assistant, visiting accountant or bookkeeper, tutor, chef, etc. But no one has any legal recourse to getting the cameras removed.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 11:45
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can record anything you wish in your own home... your home is not a place of employment like a real business. You owe nanny nothing, there is no law saying that this is allowed, just as there is no law saying it's not. Tell her to suck eggs!
If she works there, it is a place of business. You sound exceedingly unpleasant.
She babysits, it's not her place of employment. By your logic she can walk into Walmart and demand they turn of their cameras because she is working since she has her charge with her. As much as you may wish it otherwise nannies are not professional employees, MBs house is not the nannies office, and nannies don't have any of the protections that pertain to professional salaried workers.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 11:41
Subject: Re:Legality of Nanny Camera
10:20 is a pig. I am a very thin nanny and my employers don't have a TV and neither do I. However, I do agree that the fear that someone would hack into a system just to watch a nanny care for a child (or watch the parents care for the child) in the common rooms of the home is pretty remote.
I am a nanny and I generally suggest the parents get cameras in the home so they can see their child during the day without having to call me all the time to check on their baby. Plus, they will never again call and wake the baby up as they can check and see if he is sleeping in his crib before dialing. Cameras are a win for nannies. And as another PP said, the parents get to see how hard we work during the day.
I am a nanny and I generally suggest the parents get cameras in the home so they can see their child during the day without having to call me all the time to check on their baby. Plus, they will never again call and wake the baby up as they can check and see if he is sleeping in his crib before dialing. Cameras are a win for nannies. And as another PP said, the parents get to see how hard we work during the day.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 11:29
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Yep, 10:20 has her little head in the sand. Those are the parents blindly trusting everyone.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 11:02
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Typically employers must inform employees that there are, or may be, recording devices in the place of employment.
As already indicated, these are not that hard to hack. Your children (and nanny!) might be getting watched by more than just you and your spouse.
An employee has a legal right to know.
I really love that there are people so out of touch with reality that they think some nefarious "hacker" is sitting in some dark basement somewhere browsing for camera feeds and getting aroused watching some overweight middle-aged woman play with a baby and watch Maury Povich. Yes we all saw the article, it was funny that the guy played music through the camera, but it's a one off thing. NO ONE cares enough about you, your home, your nanny, or your child to watch them.
umm....what? it was funny? you're a creep
Anonymous
05/02/2015 10:20
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Typically employers must inform employees that there are, or may be, recording devices in the place of employment.
As already indicated, these are not that hard to hack. Your children (and nanny!) might be getting watched by more than just you and your spouse.
An employee has a legal right to know.
I really love that there are people so out of touch with reality that they think some nefarious "hacker" is sitting in some dark basement somewhere browsing for camera feeds and getting aroused watching some overweight middle-aged woman play with a baby and watch Maury Povich. Yes we all saw the article, it was funny that the guy played music through the camera, but it's a one off thing. NO ONE cares enough about you, your home, your nanny, or your child to watch them.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 10:15
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ask your nanny to find law that shows it is NOT permitted. You may never find evidence of something that's not prohibited.
Nannies can call up the local police department and they'll come and inspect for any hidden cameras.
Anonymous
05/02/2015 10:14
Subject: Legality of Nanny Camera
Typically employers must inform employees that there are, or may be, recording devices in the place of employment.
As already indicated, these are not that hard to hack. Your children (and nanny!) might be getting watched by more than just you and your spouse.
An employee has a legal right to know.
As already indicated, these are not that hard to hack. Your children (and nanny!) might be getting watched by more than just you and your spouse.
An employee has a legal right to know.