Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 13:08     Subject: Can I ask?

Anonymous wrote:Why the fuck do these people collect children.

Yea. I work, but 55hrs a week. Sorry, pathetic.


as a working mom of 4, I'm working my a** off to save a ton of money so I can pay for 4 ivy league or similar educations, so hopefully I'm creating productive members of society who may someday rule the world or save the world. Ambitious goals I know. I didn't intend to have 4 kids, but I had surprise twins, and I intend to give them all the opportunities I possibly can. I know it can work, because my working mom worked her a** off to do the same for me.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 13:02     Subject: Re:Can I ask?

Another mom of twins here. Good job watching 2 sets. That is really, really hard work.
I think you should ask- I believe it never hurts to ask. Start by telling her you really like your job and the children (butter her up, it will make her more open minded). Then, tell her what you ideally want and ask her to take some time to think about if it could work for them and brainstorm some ideas that work for both you and the family.
As a mom of twins, I know a trusted caregiver is hard to find, and I try to be flexible wherever I can. Hopefully she will do the same.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 12:28     Subject: Re:Can I ask?

It's hard to predict how they will feel about it. I think it depends on their personalities and the situation. They may want to keep you badly enough, and be up for working it out. Others may think it's too much trouble to hire a second person even if they are happy with you. I agree you have to take care of your needs if this is too much. If you know you'll burn out with the number/ages of children for those hours, you should try asking them. I can see why someone would burn out! You have a good plan and be sure to present the pros for them.

I had a position where I worked 4 days, 12 hours each day. I had 4 very young charges. It was a lot, but the extra day off did allow for more recharge time. As you stated, shorter 5 days would work too.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 12:14     Subject: Can I ask?

I agree it's worth a shot!
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 12:07     Subject: Can I ask?

OP here-

Thanks for all the helpful input. We are all traveling together soon. I am going to bring it up after we get back and see how they take it.

I am going to pitch it like this

reduced hours either shorter days/4 day week

Benefits to them:

Get a second person who will be good for back up
Reduces their over time cost.
Possibly get someone who speaks a second language( they want their kids to learn at least 2).
No nanny burn out

I think its worth a shot
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 11:41     Subject: Can I ask?

Why the fuck do these people collect children.

Yea. I work, but 55hrs a week. Sorry, pathetic.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 20:11     Subject: Can I ask?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:yes, they can just get another person to cover 10 hours - either come early or late each day, or do Mondays or Fridays.

happens a lot with 50-60 hour nanny coverage situations.


How do you know this happens often?


Happens in Manhattan with my colleagues and neighbors, both spouses work long hours and travel a bit. No one wants nanny burnout so you hire two nannies. So many different combos esp if nannies have other work or their own shield rents schedules to manage.


I agree. Since the OP wants full time, but a shorter work week, she may even be able to help facilitate finding a second person because she could be flexible about how it worked out (5 shorter days vs. 4 day week, for example).
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 20:03     Subject: Can I ask?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:yes, they can just get another person to cover 10 hours - either come early or late each day, or do Mondays or Fridays.

happens a lot with 50-60 hour nanny coverage situations.


How do you know this happens often?


Happens in Manhattan with my colleagues and neighbors, both spouses work long hours and travel a bit. No one wants nanny burnout so you hire two nannies. So many different combos esp if nannies have other work or their own shield rents schedules to manage.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 18:59     Subject: Can I ask?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:yes, they can just get another person to cover 10 hours - either come early or late each day, or do Mondays or Fridays.

happens a lot with 50-60 hour nanny coverage situations.


How do you know this happens often?

When did you last work a job demanding 55 hours a week, every week?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 17:04     Subject: Can I ask?

Anonymous wrote:yes, they can just get another person to cover 10 hours - either come early or late each day, or do Mondays or Fridays.

happens a lot with 50-60 hour nanny coverage situations.


How do you know this happens often?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 16:51     Subject: Can I ask?

yes, they can just get another person to cover 10 hours - either come early or late each day, or do Mondays or Fridays.

happens a lot with 50-60 hour nanny coverage situations.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 14:46     Subject: Can I ask?

I think the one-day-a-week nanny might not be that hard to find, particularly with guaranteed hours. It will cost the parents a little more in UI, but less in terms of overtime, so that would be a wash.

It's worth floating ideas that would appeal to you, and also giving them a date by which you want this resolved one way or the other.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 12:45     Subject: Can I ask?

Anonymous wrote:OP here-

I love the kiddos been with the twins since the first set was 4 weeks old. We have a great schedule, and I think that the 4 day work week would be fantastic. Its not so much the long days but the amount of long days.

I guess I am just worried that I am asking for to much to bring in a 2nd person that was my initial thought but I ran it by my dh and he said it was a bad idea, so I started second guessing myself.

How hard would it be to find someone for one day a week 10 hours @ roughly $200 for the day?


I'm the previous mother of twins. I think it would be hard to find someone good for this job for just one day. And as the mom I would rather not have to juggle multiple caregivers (though having a backup caregiver could be a good thing.) There are a lot of scheduling things w/ managing twins, and I think finding someone to be a part of the team with you and the parents could be tricky.

I would rather find other ways to support you but still have you there full time, frankly. I trust our nanny utterly w/ our kids, and I don't say that lightly. I also know she knows how to wrangle twins, and not everyone can do that.

Clearly you need a carefully thought out conversation, but I'd really be sure you know what you are and aren't willing to do (and stick with for a while) before asking them to modify the job.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 12:40     Subject: Can I ask?

OP here-

I love the kiddos been with the twins since the first set was 4 weeks old. We have a great schedule, and I think that the 4 day work week would be fantastic. Its not so much the long days but the amount of long days.

I guess I am just worried that I am asking for to much to bring in a 2nd person that was my initial thought but I ran it by my dh and he said it was a bad idea, so I started second guessing myself.

How hard would it be to find someone for one day a week 10 hours @ roughly $200 for the day?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 12:18     Subject: Can I ask?

Another solution would be to see if they could find a part time person for mornings or evenings. This can be hard to find, though.