Anonymous
01/08/2015 16:47
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just gave an example. Nannies cannot be considered independent contractors. HUGE protection.
Some nannies are actually IC's under IRS law, but that's a different topic. More to our topic, most people consider freedom of choice, the best protection, based on their own personal circumstances.
Cite, please.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 16:20
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:I just gave an example. Nannies cannot be considered independent contractors. HUGE protection.
Some nannies are actually IC's under IRS law, but that's a different topic. More to our topic, most people consider freedom of choice, the best protection, based on their own personal circumstances.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 16:06
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
I just gave an example. Nannies cannot be considered independent contractors. HUGE protection.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 16:05
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.
Do you think being a nanny should be considered a starter job, not a longterm profession? Low pay is appropriate for bottom rung workers, including brand new architects.
Low pay is appropriate for nannies. They are domestic workers, even classified aas such by the government. Professsionals can get 1099'd and not need the protections that nannies do.
I was trying to have a decent discussion here, but you're just taking things off the rails with your unnecessarily harsh responses.
-Person pointing out that the median American HHI is on par with nanny salaries so it's actually far from one of the lowest paying jobs one can hold
Anonymous
01/08/2015 16:02
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.
Do you think being a nanny should be considered a starter job, not a longterm profession? Low pay is appropriate for bottom rung workers, including brand new architects.
What "protections" are you referring to?
Low pay is appropriate for nannies. They are domestic workers, even classified aas such by the government. Professsionals can get 1099'd and not need the protections that nannies do.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 15:53
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.
Do you think being a nanny should be considered a starter job, not a longterm profession? Low pay is appropriate for bottom rung workers, including brand new architects.
Low pay is appropriate for nannies. They are domestic workers, even classified aas such by the government. Professsionals can get 1099'd and not need the protections that nannies do.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 15:48
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.
Do you think being a nanny should be considered a starter job, not a longterm profession? Low pay is appropriate for bottom rung workers, including brand new architects.
40k is also the median salary for teachers in LAUSD. Do you think that's appropriate? Probably not, but whether people think they're earning an appropriate salary isn't what determines the market for that profession.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 15:36
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.
Do you think being a nanny should be considered a starter job, not a longterm profession? Low pay is appropriate for bottom rung workers, including brand new architects.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 15:33
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by entitled? If some one posts a job with the salary range and applicants apply, is this being more entitled than any other employer posting a job, reviewing candidates, and offering it to the top pick?
Agreed. The average nanny salary is what it is. If you want to make more money, go into a higher paying profession.
Yeah, this. I made $33,000 a year right out of college. I got a masters degree, a series of jobs with increasing responsibility, and 10 years later I'm making $63,000. Not awesome, but the point is, I wasn't complaining about my initial salary and claiming I should make more. I went after a job with a higher salary.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 15:05
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 15:04
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by entitled? If some one posts a job with the salary range and applicants apply, is this being more entitled than any other employer posting a job, reviewing candidates, and offering it to the top pick?
Agreed. The average nanny salary is what it is. If you want to make more money, go into a higher paying profession.
Or if you're smart, you can become one of the best nannies. Some of us can still do what we love, AND earn a good living. Thank you.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 14:52
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by entitled? If some one posts a job with the salary range and applicants apply, is this being more entitled than any other employer posting a job, reviewing candidates, and offering it to the top pick?
Agreed. The average nanny salary is what it is. If you want to make more money, go into a higher paying profession.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 14:42
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.
Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.
Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?
Anonymous
01/08/2015 14:39
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where I live, nannies are for middle class families. Only working class families use daycares. So your statement is inaccurate.
Please define your idea of middle class.
Oh, $50,000 a year to $500,000 a year or so.
Only 2% of population make over $100,000/yr. $500,000 is not middle class.
Exactly.
Anonymous
01/08/2015 14:33
Subject: Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where I live, nannies are for middle class families. Only working class families use daycares. So your statement is inaccurate.
Please define your idea of middle class.
Oh, $50,000 a year to $500,000 a year or so.
Only 2% of population make over $100,000/yr. $500,000 is not middle class.