You let her go once and I wouldn't trust you to not do the it again.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

two infants + a toddler is not rocket science, it is a ton of work. I know rocket scientists or people in similar jobs and none of them spends 8-9 hours a day having to feeds two little infants at the same time, change their diapers, while at the same time entertain and take care of a toddler. even a rocket scientist needs a nanny if he/she can go to work in the morning, and the rate depends on the market. OP may find somebody but the lower she goes the less experienced-reliable the person may be. the reality is that having child care for three in the DC area is extremely expensive (I do not want to pile up on OP, having twins was a surprised I guess). she can look into daycares (but they easily charge $1500-$2000 per child, although with more than one you can get a 10% or 20% discount) or home daycares.

I see a couple of additional problems with OP's situation. the nanny is looking now and she will have the babies at the end of March. is she going to hire the nanny now? the nanny is very unlikely to wait months to be hired. also, if I was a nanny, I would be weary of a family that let me go after a year because she found a solution to save money. I would be concerned that OP could do the same, and let me go after a short time because grandma will take care of the kids or something similar.

Stop pretending to be an MB. Caring for two infants and a toddler hardly requires a rate of $25 plus an hour.

If you want that go to school and get a real job. I'm sure your husband would appreciate you doing so, and you might have something to add to a conversation with your in laws beyond how many diapers you change in a week for someone else's child.

well, I have a real job, thanks (I am an attorney) and my husband seems already happy with that. with a law degree and a LLM, I am also done with school. My kids are in elementary school, so I am not a MB now. as for my conversations with my in-laws, I suspect they might be more pleasant than the ones you have with yours, you really sound like a peach.

Stop lying dear. What you meant to write is that you work for an attorney. Fantasies about your boss does not make him your husband. Instead of inflating wages return to school and you can make $35 plus an hour.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

two infants + a toddler is not rocket science, it is a ton of work. I know rocket scientists or people in similar jobs and none of them spends 8-9 hours a day having to feeds two little infants at the same time, change their diapers, while at the same time entertain and take care of a toddler. even a rocket scientist needs a nanny if he/she can go to work in the morning, and the rate depends on the market. OP may find somebody but the lower she goes the less experienced-reliable the person may be. the reality is that having child care for three in the DC area is extremely expensive (I do not want to pile up on OP, having twins was a surprised I guess). she can look into daycares (but they easily charge $1500-$2000 per child, although with more than one you can get a 10% or 20% discount) or home daycares.

I see a couple of additional problems with OP's situation. the nanny is looking now and she will have the babies at the end of March. is she going to hire the nanny now? the nanny is very unlikely to wait months to be hired. also, if I was a nanny, I would be weary of a family that let me go after a year because she found a solution to save money. I would be concerned that OP could do the same, and let me go after a short time because grandma will take care of the kids or something similar.

The problem with your argument is daycare workers spend 8-9 hours a day with 10+ infants, feeding them and changing diapers, and they make much less than $18 an hour.

The wages a daycare worker earns are irrelevant to this discussion, because the families that use daycare do not pay the workers directly. The COST of daycare is relevant here, as are the potential health issues that occur within a daycare setting and the impact that will have on OP's ability to put in the work her employers expect.

So for an actual and logical comparison, let's talk cost/benefit/negatives.

1) COST - Daycare for 3 under 3 might cost $1300+/week, while a nanny for 3 might cost $1200+ per week based on a 50 hour week at $20/hour.

2) BENEFITS - The benefits of daycare - there is always a worker ready to care for the kids, the kids get early socialization, and theoretically less potential for issues of abuse/neglect because there is more than a single worker. The benefits of nanny care - the kids are cared for in their home, the parents have control over the schedule and routines, more flexibility for work emergencies, caregiver turnover is less of an issue than in most daycares, sick children don't mean a parent has to take PTO to provide care, and kids might get sick less often.

3) NEGATIVES - Daycare negatives include more illnesses, more missed days at work for parents, more caregiver turnover, having to cart your kids to and from daycare, little control over the daily schedule, and a strictly limited time the daycare is open. Nanny care negatives include no daily supervision of nanny, no easy back-up care, a lack of socialization if nanny and parents are not in accord about classes, outings, and playdates.

So since OP will be paying similar amounts for care of 3 kids, she'll need to weigh other factors than $$ to make her decision.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

two infants + a toddler is not rocket science, it is a ton of work. I know rocket scientists or people in similar jobs and none of them spends 8-9 hours a day having to feeds two little infants at the same time, change their diapers, while at the same time entertain and take care of a toddler. even a rocket scientist needs a nanny if he/she can go to work in the morning, and the rate depends on the market. OP may find somebody but the lower she goes the less experienced-reliable the person may be. the reality is that having child care for three in the DC area is extremely expensive (I do not want to pile up on OP, having twins was a surprised I guess). she can look into daycares (but they easily charge $1500-$2000 per child, although with more than one you can get a 10% or 20% discount) or home daycares.

I see a couple of additional problems with OP's situation. the nanny is looking now and she will have the babies at the end of March. is she going to hire the nanny now? the nanny is very unlikely to wait months to be hired. also, if I was a nanny, I would be weary of a family that let me go after a year because she found a solution to save money. I would be concerned that OP could do the same, and let me go after a short time because grandma will take care of the kids or something similar.

Stop pretending to be an MB. Caring for two infants and a toddler hardly requires a rate of $25 plus an hour.

If you want that go to school and get a real job. I'm sure your husband would appreciate you doing so, and you might have something to add to a conversation with your in laws beyond how many diapers you change in a week for someone else's child.

well, I have a real job, thanks (I am an attorney) and my husband seems already happy with that. with a law degree and a LLM, I am also done with school. My kids are in elementary school, so I am not a MB now. as for my conversations with my in-laws, I suspect they might be more pleasant than the ones you have with yours, you really sound like a peach.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

two infants + a toddler is not rocket science, it is a ton of work. I know rocket scientists or people in similar jobs and none of them spends 8-9 hours a day having to feeds two little infants at the same time, change their diapers, while at the same time entertain and take care of a toddler. even a rocket scientist needs a nanny if he/she can go to work in the morning, and the rate depends on the market. OP may find somebody but the lower she goes the less experienced-reliable the person may be. the reality is that having child care for three in the DC area is extremely expensive (I do not want to pile up on OP, having twins was a surprised I guess). she can look into daycares (but they easily charge $1500-$2000 per child, although with more than one you can get a 10% or 20% discount) or home daycares.

I see a couple of additional problems with OP's situation. the nanny is looking now and she will have the babies at the end of March. is she going to hire the nanny now? the nanny is very unlikely to wait months to be hired. also, if I was a nanny, I would be weary of a family that let me go after a year because she found a solution to save money. I would be concerned that OP could do the same, and let me go after a short time because grandma will take care of the kids or something similar.

The problem with your argument is daycare workers spend 8-9 hours a day with 10+ infants, feeding them and changing diapers, and they make much less than $18 an hour.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

two infants + a toddler is not rocket science, it is a ton of work. I know rocket scientists or people in similar jobs and none of them spends 8-9 hours a day having to feeds two little infants at the same time, change their diapers, while at the same time entertain and take care of a toddler. even a rocket scientist needs a nanny if he/she can go to work in the morning, and the rate depends on the market. OP may find somebody but the lower she goes the less experienced-reliable the person may be. the reality is that having child care for three in the DC area is extremely expensive (I do not want to pile up on OP, having twins was a surprised I guess). she can look into daycares (but they easily charge $1500-$2000 per child, although with more than one you can get a 10% or 20% discount) or home daycares.

I see a couple of additional problems with OP's situation. the nanny is looking now and she will have the babies at the end of March. is she going to hire the nanny now? the nanny is very unlikely to wait months to be hired. also, if I was a nanny, I would be weary of a family that let me go after a year because she found a solution to save money. I would be concerned that OP could do the same, and let me go after a short time because grandma will take care of the kids or something similar.

Stop pretending to be an MB. Caring for two infants and a toddler hardly requires a rate of $25 plus an hour.

If you want that go to school and get a real job. I'm sure your husband would appreciate you doing so, and you might have something to add to a conversation with your in laws beyond how many diapers you change in a week for someone else's child.

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

two infants + a toddler is not rocket science, it is a ton of work. I know rocket scientists or people in similar jobs and none of them spends 8-9 hours a day having to feeds two little infants at the same time, change their diapers, while at the same time entertain and take care of a toddler. even a rocket scientist needs a nanny if he/she can go to work in the morning, and the rate depends on the market. OP may find somebody but the lower she goes the less experienced-reliable the person may be. the reality is that having child care for three in the DC area is extremely expensive (I do not want to pile up on OP, having twins was a surprised I guess). she can look into daycares (but they easily charge $1500-$2000 per child, although with more than one you can get a 10% or 20% discount) or home daycares.

I see a couple of additional problems with OP's situation. the nanny is looking now and she will have the babies at the end of March. is she going to hire the nanny now? the nanny is very unlikely to wait months to be hired. also, if I was a nanny, I would be weary of a family that let me go after a year because she found a solution to save money. I would be concerned that OP could do the same, and let me go after a short time because grandma will take care of the kids or something similar.

What makes you think OP cannot afford her kids?

Not wanting to pay $25 plus an hour for a nanny does not = cannot care for her children living above their means.

I know it's hard for you nannies to understand, but your job is not a high skills job that automatically commands $30 an hour.

I'm sure OP can find a nanny for three for $18 to $20 an hour two infants and a toddler isn't exactly rocket science territory.

People who live within their means and only have children they can afford, are not pathetic, they are responsible, mature adults.

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Anonymous wrote:We can't go above $20 before taxes, so I guess I have my answer.

Stop having kids when you cannot afford them.

You're a pathetic excuse for a human being.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:OP here is the deal, If you want your nanny back you need to find other perks that will compensate for less salary. I would say the min is $19-20hr. Then I would start talking vacation time, 4 day weeks etc. You mentioned that you have your mom and sister in the area so this is feasibly possible for you. It allows you to get quality childcare, provide a living wage to a nanny, and keep the nanny happy without breaking the bank. I am a nanny, and I understand that when you can't afford a certain salary its totally understandable. i am sure twins were a surprise for you as well, and the pp who said to stop having kids is just rude. However getting creative with benifits, and compensating in areas you can afford will go a long way in finding good childcare. I stand by this post even if your old nanny turns down the job or has found another job, use this to find a good nanny.

P.S
This is from a CA nanny who cares for 4mo old b/g twins and makes $21hr and I would accept the offer below.


Your offer could go like this
$18.50-$19hr
40hr guaranteed(or whatever the norm work week is)
3weeks vacation

Optional(ideas)
every 6 weeks you could offer a 4 day work week
You could have your sister or whomever come and relieve the nanny early on Fridays or random days
Extra little thank you notes, or $10 Starbucks gift cards every now and then as a "just bc"
Things like this go a long way, and you can get creative and come up with your own stuff too!

I would go back to my former family for a deal last me this.

I'd actually go back for my old deal, but I have loved working for all my nanny families, and you can't put a price tag on great employers in my opinion.